Lets test the strength of faith : Poll

[Tacitursa]

I kind of expect most religious people to dodge this or vote unhonestly but let's see how it goes anyhow.

Let's assume we somehow aquired 100% concrete evidence on whether god existed or not and you were presented with a door and two choices.

1. Enter the door and if god exists you and your entire family are set up for life. If however you enter and god does not exist your entire family dies painfully and you live with the consequences.

2. You choose to not enter the door.

[Sir Winston Churchill]

Wait, so we've collected complete evidence of the existence of God and yet we haven't?

[Tacitursa]

Sorry should of made it a bit more clear, The evidence will only be shown after making the choice.

[Sir Winston Churchill]

Well then I pick number 1. Cause in all honesty, my family right now is just me, and therefore only I take the consequences. Among that, in my logic I believe the way religion is set up, you just can't completely prove the nonexistence of God, and in theory can only prove it. So I would, after thinking about it of course, take a step through the door.

[Ó Cathasaigh]

I kind of expect most religious people to dodge this or vote unhonestly but let's see how it goes anyhow.

Ok, then why poll? You've just set it up so you can say "SEE!" either way...what's the point?

[Darth_Revan]

I voted numero uno

[Boer]

I'm more or less agnostic, so option 3 for me

[scarybandit]

I'm more or less agnostic, so option 3 for me

Agnostics should pick option 2, which also suspends a decision on the matter.

[Fiyenyaa]

If you only get the evidence after the door is opened, not entering the door is the logical choice. Even if the odds were 50/50 (and they are not), you'd be a fool to enter the door.

[green tea]

After some thinking, it comes down to this: I can find out if god exists. No matter what I believe, if I choose to try the door and am wrong, I kill my family. I think it is ethically wrong to gamble with the lives of those I love, even if I were 90 % sure. So the only ethical answer is not to go through that door. And that I found out after some thinking (so I hesitated).

[iudas]

This might be a trick question. If we have concrete evidence on the existence of God, then God must be real, because we'd proven that he is, as we can't prove that he isn't real. So the answer would be to enter the door. But leaving aside this little plothole, no.

[Yosemite]

what happens if you dont go in

apparently the first choice is heaven or hell, but the second one is nothingness

[Lupu]

God doesn't ask us to kill ourselves to get to heaven .

[Phier]

God doesn't ask us to kill ourselves to get to heaven .

Nah he does that for you

[jsktrogdor]

God doesn't ask us to kill ourselves to get to heaven .

In your opinion, it really depends who you ask.

[Manco]

Punch the guy out for being a bastard, grab a sledge hammer and go through the wall instead of the door.

[basics]

" 1. Enter the door and if god exists you and your entire family are set up for life. If however you enter and god does not exist your entire family dies painfully and you live with the consequences."

Wizav85,

What kind of crazy proposal is this? Enter what door? Where does my family come into this stupidity? And if God does not exist, why is it necessary that we die painfully and once done how would it reflect on my conscience or consequences since the supreme athiest culture is that when one dies that's it, nothing?

Back to the drawing board old friend.

[Copperknickers II]

" 1. Enter the door and if god exists you and your entire family are set up for life. If however you enter and god does not exist your entire family dies painfully and you live with the consequences."

Wizav85,

What kind of crazy proposal is this? Enter what door? Where does my family come into this stupidity? And if God does not exist, why is it necessary that we die painfully and once done how would it reflect on my conscience or consequences since the supreme athiest culture is that when one dies that's it, nothing?

Back to the drawing board old friend.

Imagine you are kidnapped by a gang of rogue demons or something, who were able to prove the existance of God (if he did exist) but could only reveal the answer by devising a medieval style test of faith which you had to take.

The door is irrelevent, the point is you either have to say conclusively that 'God exists' and face the consequences if you are wrong, or admit that you don't know. Make sense now?

what happens if you dont go in

apparently the first choice is heaven or hell, but the second one is nothingness

If you don't go in, then you live the rest of your life as normal and find out whether God exist the usual way, by dying of natural causes (or being killed if you are unlucky).

The first choice is a wonderful mortal life and an equally wonderful afterlife in Heaven (if there is a God), or a painful death after which there is no afterlife (if there is not a God). You grab your queen of spades and you hope you're playing Poker rather than Hearts on the other side. All, or Nothing. Are you willing to risk nothing to go for everything? Are you that sure that there is a God?

[Tacitursa]

Thanks copper you explained it alot better than i did , you should of made the poll

I think every rational human being on the planet chose option 2 as it's impossible to know 100% and no rational human being is going to gamble with there family's lives.

Raw emotion, instinct and logic will always be victorius over faith.

[basics]

" Imagine you are kidnapped by a gang of rogue demons or something, who were able to prove the existance of God (if he did exist) but could only reveal the answer by devising a medieval style test of faith which you had to take.

The door is irrelevent, the point is you either have to say conclusively that 'God exists' and face the consequences if you are wrong, or admit that you don't know. Make sense now?"

Copperknickers II,

Since my imagination cannot conjure up what I already know of, despite any rogue demons, and the consequences of that are that my family, individually, must answer for themselves individually, my reply must be that I know God exists and that by faith.

Sorry to give this sort of answer for to give another is to tarnish what I already know. Perhaps the question is better put to them that don't know God then their imaginations can work away without having to commit themselves in any way as to what is true and what is not.