Discussion: The Volga-Bulgars

[Boztorgai_Khan]

- SORRY - THE INFORMATION OF THE OTHERS IS MUCH BETTER THEN MY INFORMATION -

THANK YOU..

[Boztorgai_Khan]

- SORRY - THE INFORMATION OF THE OTHERS IS MUCH BETTER THEN MY INFORMATION -

THANK YOU..

[Boztorgai_Khan]

- SORRY - THE INFORMATION OF THE OTHERS IS MUCH BETTER THEN MY INFORMATION -

THANK YOU..

[Mirni]

Volzhskaya Bolgariya The word Bolgar or Bulgar, on ancient turkic means "rebelled". Some tribes referred to this name which have appeared on the territory of modern Qazaqstan approximately in the fourth century A.D. Firstly these turkic-speaking tribes were under the protectorate of the Huns (Xiongnu) . But with time the ugrians and bulgars have left their ancient dwellings near the river Volga and Ural mountains & have taken the coasts of the Azov & Black Seas and Tavrida. In the end of 5th century they already occupied lands from borders of the Byzantium empire in a lower reaches of Dunay up to Volga and foothills of Caucasus. The danger for bulgars has come from the east. Turks moving from Altai mountains have conquered a lot of tribes, have found a powerful state-Khaganate and finally have conquered some bulgar tribes in the northern Caucasus. While doing so the conquerors have displaced the avars, all these circumstances gave a chance to khazars and to bolgar-annaguns to amplify on these territories, who lived on east of Azov Sea. In the 7th century the bulgarian lord Kubrat have found his own state, The Great Bolgariya, territory was spreaded from Kuban to Dnepr. In 665 Kubrat dies. His sons didn't listen to fathers wise advice & have separated from each other. The eldest one namely Vatvay stayed on coasts of Don, second son Kotrak have passed the Don and went to avars in Panonia, the 5th went to Italy, the 3rd one stayed between Dnepr and Dunay rivers, but in 679 by conquering all the Miziya he has found there a powerful state of Bolgars. But before them the lower reaches of Dunay were inhabitated by slavic tribes, they were majority. So the newcomers the turkic bolgars were assimilated by slavs leaving them just a name. Khazars at once used such a time to defeat the bolgars, making them to migrate to Dagestan, Krym and average reaches of Volga, the last ones who went to Volga found a state named Volzhskaya Bolgariya. "Through time they became civic trading people; they had ship-trade on rivers with northern Russia, and also had a connection through Caspian Sea with Persia and other wealthy asiatic countries". At the same time they were known as brave, warlike, horrifying and good armed people. The struggle with them was one of the main tasks of young Kiev State. In the beginning of 10th century, Volga bulgars have found their own state, in year 921 their khan have accepted Islam and protectorate of Baghdad Caliphate. As Svyatoslav was going to campaigns on Dunay bolgars, so Vladimir successfully was going to campaigns against Volga Bolgars. His own victory upon them he fastened with peace, bolgars promised to live with russians in peace, supporting their swear with simple words: "Unless then we shall break this contract when the stone begins to float, and hop to sink in the water." But anyway the russian princes Georgiy Suzdalskiy, Andrey & Vsevolod several times leaded their druzhinas on Volga and Kama against bolgars. Khan Batu have conquered the Volga bolgars & their lands became a part of a Golden Horde. Later son of Batu Khan - grandgrandson of Ghenghis Khan, Sayin institutes here a city for his baskaks, named as Kazan which was occupied by bolgars, cheremyhs, votyaks, mordva migrated here from Rostov region in times when russian lands accepted orthodoxy. This is the way the heirs of Volga bolgars and newcomers from the east, formed the fundament of Kazan Khanate...
Volga Bulgaria Silver of the 10th-14th centuries
(on materials of the Trans-Urals collections)

Fig. 1 - the dish with two lions from Zeleny Yar

Fig. 2 - the dish with a scene of a predator attacking a deer

Fig. 3 - the dish from the river Synya

Fig. 4 - the dish from the Tomsk province

Fig. 5 - the Rublev's dish

Fig. 6 - the dish from Muzhy

Fig. 7 - the slit dish from Yamal peninsula

Fig. 8 - the ladle with the floral sprout

Fig. 9 - the bracelet from Zeleny Yar burial site

Fig. 10 - the decorated bow string protection hand plate

Fig. 11 - the decorated bow string protection hand plate

[Mirni]

Here is image of Volga Bulgars warriors


Here is Khan Kubrat with his 5 sons:





Here are the warriors of the steppe nations which helped Bulgaria in the war campains against Vyzantine Empire.
The Cumans and the Pechenegs.





Two incredible pics of one of the most succesfull Bulgarian rulers :
Khan Asparuh and Khan Krum
They are from a Lesson book about the Bulgarian history.
I notice the diferent influence on the helmets
The Asparuh one is more Asian looking like
and the Khan Krum one is moreless Magyar-Hungarian,(Maybe because Khan Krum used to rule most of Pannonia
Both of them probably have turk-mongol origin, What do you think ?



Now here you can see two Avar helmets.
They were actually similar to the Bulgarian ones.




Here is an image i could fine of Khan Asparuh made by a Art-school student :



And...unique photo of the Bulgarian organization for traditions preserving - BAGATUR .




Also some construction of Bulgarian fort and Tipycal tent of 6-7 century from the same school :




Your left - Bulgar, right - Golden Horde warrior:

kazan tatars

[Kavhan Isbul]

And...unique photo of the Bulgarian organization for traditions preserving - BAGATUR .

Bagatur are not an organization aimed at preserving traditions - they are a for profit organization, which arranges camps for children (some analogies to boy & girl scouts) and also performs little shows for payment.

Their equipment is not period accurate, because they do not put any effort into researching and making of accurate replicas, but instead prefer to simply dress themselves in animal skins - it's all about the showy appearance. Bagatur are not reenactors, should not be considered as such and most definitely should not be used for research purposes.

@ Bozzy: your panturkic views on the origins of Bulgarians are most disturbing and most likely, utterly incorrect. Sorry.

[Boztorgai_Khan]

@ Bozzy: your panturkic views on the origins of Bulgarians are most disturbing and most likely, utterly incorrect. Sorry.

Sorry I'am not pan-turkic and volga-bulgars are not bulgarians of today in bulgaria, maybe you know that too. who are volga-bulgars childs today ? search it. then you understand me.. I'am not pan-turkic. I'am Ural-Altaic Researcher.

my origin is half mongol and half tatar

[Kavhan Isbul]

Sorry I'am not pan-turkic and volga-bulgars are not bulgarians of today in bulgaria, maybe you know that too. who are volga-bulgars childs today ? search it. then you understand me.. I'am not pan-turkic. I'am Ural-Altaic Researcher.

my origin is half mongol and half tatar

Bozzy, when I mentioned Bulgarians I obviously meant Bulgarians from the time of Kubrat, not modern ones. And if you decided to dig a little deeper than wikipedia and the few sites you copy info from, you may have discovered that the most plausible theory on the origins of Bulgarians is that they were of Eastern Iranian origin, followed by the Scytho-Sarmatian theory. Either way, Bulgarians were most likely of Iranian, and not Turkic origins.

While during their travels they mixed with other peoples, the remains of Bulgarians from the 7th-9th centuries show 95% Indo-European and 5% Mongoloid features. These Bulgarians likely did not differ much from those, who founded Volga Bulgaria.

If you have some data on anthropological studies of Volga Bulgarians, please share it here.

The way this would relate to the mod would be in the voices used for Volga Bulgaria characters, and I would hate to see them use the Mongol voices, instead of the normal Muslim ones.

[Boztorgai_Khan]

Bozzy, when I mentioned Bulgarians I obviously meant Bulgarians from the time of Kubrat, not modern ones. And if you decided to dig a little deeper than wikipedia and the few sites you copy info from, you may have discovered that the most plausible theory on the origins of Bulgarians is that they were of Eastern Iranian origin, followed by the Scytho-Sarmatian theory. Either way, Bulgarians were most likely of Iranian, and not Turkic origins.

While during their travels they mixed with other peoples, the remains of Bulgarians from the 7th-9th centuries show 95% Indo-European and 5% Mongoloid features. These Bulgarians likely did not differ much from those, who founded Volga Bulgaria.

If you have some data on anthropological studies of Volga Bulgarians, please share it here.

The way this would relate to the mod would be in the voices used for Volga Bulgaria characters, and I would hate to see them use the Mongol voices, instead of the normal Muslim ones.

So you are Pan-Slav ??

asked this your theary to people today live in Russia, the Mari El's and Chuvasians etc...


Up to this day, there is no universally accepted etymology of the word Chuvash. However, there are two main theories that try to explain it.

Suvar
According to one theory, "Chuvash" is a Shaz-Turkic adaptation of Lir-Turkic "Suvar", an ethnonym of people that are widely considered to be the ancestors of modern Chuvashes. Compare Lir-Turkic Chuvash: huran to Shaz-Turkic Tatar: qazan (cauldron).

Jăvaš
Another theory suggests that the word "Chuvash" may be derived from Common Turkic jăvaš ("friendly", "peaceful") as opposed to "şarmăs" ("warlike").

There are rival schools of thought on the origin of Chuvash people. One is that they originated from a mixing between the Suvar and Savir tribes of Volga Bulgaria with local Mari tribes. Another is that Chuvashes are remainders of pre-Volga Bulgar (Hunnic) population of Volga region, partly merged with Scythians, Volga Bolgars and Maris.


First-hand information on Volga Bulgaria is rather sparse. As no authentic Bulgar records have survived, most of our information comes from contemporary Arabic, Persian, Indian or Russian sources. Some information is provided by excavations.
It is thought that the territory of Volga Bulgaria was originally settled by Finno-Ugric peoples. The Bulgars moved from the Azov region in about AD 660, commanded by Kotrag, Kubrat's son. They reached Idel-Ural in in the eighth century, where they became the dominant population at the end of the 9th century, uniting other tribes of different origin which lived in the area. Some Bulgar tribes, however, continued westward and after many adventures settled along the Danube River, in what is now known as Bulgaria proper, where they merged with the Slavs, adopting a South Slavic language and the Eastern Orthodox faith.
Most scholars agree that the Volga Bulgars were subject to the great Khazarian Empire. Sometime in the late 9th century unification processes started, and the capital was established at Bolğar (also spelled Bulgar) city, 160 km south from modern Kazan. Most scholars doubt, however, that the state could assert independence from the Khazars until the latter were annihilated by Svyatoslav of Rus in 965.

A large part of the region's population was Turkic and included Bulgars, Suars, Barsil, Bilars, Baranjars and part of Burtas (by ibn Rustah). Modern Chuvashes descent from Suars and Kazan Tatars descend from the Volga Bulgars. Another part comprised Finnic and Magyar (Asagel and Pascatir) tribes, from which Bisermäns probably descend.

Islam was adopted as the state religion in the early tenth century, under Almış. Ibn Fadlan was dispatched by the Abbasid Caliph al-Muqtadir in 922/3 to establish relations and bring qadis and teachers of Islamic law to Volga Bulgaria, as well as help in building a fort and a mosque. Tengriism and other religions, however, continued to be practised. Some Arabic sources such as Al-Garanati, called the northern people Majus. Majus (magi) was the term applied to Zoroasrians by the Muslims, who considered them fire-worshipers. Ibn Fadlan refers to Volga Bulgaria as to Sakaliba which is a general Arabic term for the people of Volga Bulgaria and it is probably related to ethnic name Scythian (or Saka in Persian).

Commanding the Volga River in its middle course, the state controlled much of trade between Europe and Asia prior to the Crusades (which made other trade routes practicable). The capital, Bolghar, was a thriving city, rivalling in size and wealth with the greatest centres of the Islamic world. Trade partners of Bolghar included from Vikings, Bjarmland, Yugra and Nenets in the north to Baghdad and Constantinople in the south, from Western Europe to China in the East. Other major cities included Bilär, Suar (Suwar), Qaşan (Kashan) and Cükätaw (Juketau). Modern cities Kazan and Yelabuga were founded as Volga Bulgaria's border fortresses.

Some of the Volga Bulgarian cities still haven't been found, but they are mentioned in Russian sources. They are: Aşlı (Oshel), Tuxçin (Tukhchin), İbrahim (Bryakhimov), Taw İle. Some of them were ruined during and after the Golden Horde invasion.
The Russian principalities to the west posed the only tangible military threat. In the 11th century, the country was devastated by several Russian raids. Then, at the turn of the 12th and 13th centuries, the rulers of Vladimir (notably Andrew the Pious and Vsevolod III), anxious to defend their eastern border, systematically pillaged Bulgarian cities. Under Russian pressure from the west, the Bulgars had to move their capital from Bolghar to Bilär.



The Dulo Clan or the House of Dulo was the name of the ruling dynasty of the early Bulgars.

This was the clan of Kubrat who founded Old Great Bulgaria, and his sons Batbayan, Kuber and Asparuh, the latter of which founded Danube Bulgaria.

A later genealogy claims that the Dulo clan is descended from Attila the Hun. As Kubrat is mentioned in the Orkhon inscriptions and if John of Nikiu's "Quetrades" is indeed Kubrat, it is also likely that they were somewhat related to the Ashina clan adopting its Tamga, though it seems that Dulo not only broke off from the royal Ashina clan, but became totally opposed to it, manifesting it not only in opposition to the Khazar Kaganate headed by an Ashina kagan, but also demonstratively not using the name. The Dulo clan name descends from the Dulo (Tiele) tribe group, and the Dulo/Ashina opposition was a main cause of the ethnic conflicts that tore apart the Turkic Kaganate, and a little later the Western Turkic Kaganate, bringing about the creation of the Great Bulgaria, and the emergence of Danube Bulgaria, Volga Bulgaria and Rus kaganate in the early 800 CE.

Dulo Hill on Byers Peninsula, Livingston Island in the South Shetland Islands, Antarctica is named after the Bulgarian ruling dynasty of Dulo.



The trident Tamga of the Dulo clan is the tamga of the Ashina clan, a trident later found in the coat of arms of the Bulgarian and Rus dynasties adopted as the national symbol of the Ukraine and Crimea.


Rulers of Danube Bulgaria of the Dulo dynasty:
Asparuh
Tervel
Kormesiy
Sevar
Krum
Omurtag
Malamir
Presian
Boris I
Simeon I the Great
Peter I
Boris II
Roman I


ABOUT TAMGA:

A tamga or tamgha (tamga is a Mongolian word and means "stamp or seal". It also has similar meaning in Turkish damga, "mark", "stamp") is an abstract seal or device used by Altaic and Eurasian nomadic peoples and by cultures influenced by them. The tamga was normally the emblem of a particular tribe, clan or family. They were common among the Huns, Mongols, Scythians, Sarmatians, Bulgars, Alans, all Turkic peoples, including Khazars and Uyghurs. Neighboring sedentary people sometimes adopted tamga-like symbols; for example, the stylized trident tamga, or seal were used by various peoples of Eastern Europe and Asia: Kushans, Bulgarians, the House of Dulo, Rus', Khazars, Kypchaks, Tatars, Hungarians, Lithuanians and Poles. Archaeologists prize tamgas as a first-rate source for the study of present and extinct cultures.





ReSearch First all this You read it ? Dulo Kubrat used Tamga of the Ashina Clan what mean Ashina ? Search it.

I Know I'am the Legend. Hehe,

[Alejandro Sanchez]

The dragon - coat of arms of Volga Bulgaria

This animal have name Zilant. This image first appeared at the time of the Kazan Khanate (after Mongol invasion), when Volga Bulgaria was destroyed. There is no documentary evidence that the Zilant was used as a symbol of this earlier time. Hence, the Zilant can not be a coat of arms of Volga Bulgaria

image by Pascal Gross, 21 Jan 2000
The arms is circular, red with white winged snow leopard. The disc is bordered with white line and around it with green circle bearing yellow ornament all around except in lower part where there is inscription "TATAPCTAH" (i.e. "Tatarstan" in cyrillic letters).
Željko Heimer, 02 Aug 1997




The winner of competition for the arms was Rif Faqrutdynov (Риф Фахрутдынов). Three circles represents three historical stages of Tatar statehood:

• Proto-Bulgarian Khanate (IX-XIII Century)
• Kazan Khanate (XV-XVI Century)
• modern Tatarstan

The red circle is also a rising sun — symbol of rebirthmenth. Ak Bars (snow leopard) is an ancient symbol of Turkish peoples. He has wings, because he rules over land, water and heaven. He has shield, because he defends the people. Uprised hand is an imperial gesture.
Grzegorz Skrukwa, 15 Oct 2001

The animal on the arms is called ak bars | ак барс in Tatar (beliĭ bars | белий барс in Russian) which means "white snow leopard" (Panthera uncia — ed.). This is an ancient Tatar symbol and a very popular one.

As you noticed, this coat of arms created by modern artist Rif Fahrutdinov. This is a modern image by 100%
Indeed, the winged bars (leopard) popular symbol in Tatarstan. But there is no evidence that this symbol is authentic symbol of Volga Bulgaria Well, we used the image of winged leopard as well it used in a modern coat of arms of Tatarstan. But the image that we used is the ancient nomadic image, not modern
Also we used tamga resembling the letter A. Archeology proves the use of this tamga as a symbol of Volga Bulgaria

[Boztorgai_Khan]

This animal have name Zilant. This image first appeared at the time of the Kazan Khanate (after Mongol invasion), when Volga Bulgaria was destroyed. There is no documentary evidence that the Zilant was used as a symbol of this earlier time. Hence, the Zilant can not be a coat of arms of Volga Bulgaria


As you noticed, this coat of arms created by modern artist Rif Fahrutdinov. This is a modern image by 100%
Indeed, the winged bars (leopard) popular symbol in Tatarstan. But there is no evidence that this symbol is authentic symbol of Volga Bulgaria Well, we used the image of winged leopard as well it used in a modern coat of arms of Tatarstan. But the image that we used is the ancient nomadic image, not modern
Also we used tamga resembling the letter A. Archeology proves the use of this tamga as a symbol of Volga Bulgaria

That Tamga was before 922 AD Maybe and The Army used Maybe But Volga Bulgars Converted To islam in 922 AD

They was Muslim Volga Bulgarians and Believe me Kazan-Khanate get it that Symbol from Volga people IF KAZANS USED OWN SYMBOL LOGO THAT WAS SAME WITH CRIMEAN KHANATE, KAZANS USED SYMBOL OF VOLGA PEOPLES AND NOGAI'S USED SYMBOL OF IDIL PEOPLE THEY CALLED TODAY IDIL-VOLGA PEOPLE AND THEY ARE MIXED WITH TATARS FROM KAZAN KHANATE AND NOGAI KHANATE.

But if BC TEAM WANT A DREAM FAKE MOD THEN I STOP IT WITH WRITING.

WHAT IS THAT MAN A BEAR FOR BULGARIANS HAHAHAHA COME ON IS THIS NOW A RUSSIAN FACTION ? MAYBE A RUSSIAN WANTED THIS

BTW: KHWAREZMIANS SYMBOL IS FAKE, ALL ATABEGS SYMBOL TOO GHAZNEVIDS SYMBOL FAKE, I THINK SOME MAKE WHAT AND OTHER SAY WOW ITS COOL HEHEHE, PLEASE STOP IT WITH THAT THINGS. AND ASK IT A HISTORIAN WHAT IS TRUE AND GOOD FOR THIS FACTION.

BUT IF SOME THINK IT YOUR ARE LAIR YOU DONT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS THEN I STOP IT WITH WRITING.

[Atabeg]

Please prove the otherwise...When not, your just "BSing".

You cannot use a modern coat of arms as a faction symbol, specially when its created very recently.

Just to response to specific part of your post.

"AND ATABEGS OF TURKS MAKING A PERSIAN FACTION."

Atabegs of Azerbaijan will be made as a Turkic faction, but the 2 others were based in a Persian zone, only rulers were Turkic (Fars and Kerman).

"ALL ATABEGS SYMBOL TOO"

For instance, we do know that Atabegs of Azerbaijan used wolf. As Eisberg posted it here. And other Atabegs perhaps used some kind of lion as their symbols.

They don't put stuff from air.

[Boztorgai_Khan]

Please prove the otherwise...When not, your just "BSing".

You cannot use a modern coat of arms as a faction symbol, specially when its created very recently.

Just to response to specific part of your post.

"AND ATABEGS OF TURKS MAKING A PERSIAN FACTION."

Atabegs of Azerbaijan will be made as a Turkic faction, but the 2 others were based in a Persian zone, only rulers were Turkic (Fars and Kerman).

"ALL ATABEGS SYMBOL TOO"

For instance, we do know that Atabegs of Azerbaijan used wolf. As Eisberg posted it here. And other Atabegs perhaps used some kind of lion as their symbols.

They don't put stuff from air.

Sure, You Dont Cannot use a Modern But too Cannot a FAKE FANTASY SYMBOL Modern is much better then a FAKE,

Vaay the Oghuzes tribe tripping Good Azerbaycan qardas. Go and Do it What you every want. Change yourside to Persians

is that Wolf on Atabegs of Azerbaijan ? It look like more on Lion
Maybe you can use better the symbol of the Gokturks

[Atabeg]

Sure, You Dont Cannot use a Modern But too Cannot a FAKE FANTASY SYMBOL Modern is much better then a FAKE,

Vaay the Oghuzes tribe tripping Good Azerbaycan qardas. Go and Do it What you every want. Change yourside to Persians

is that Wolf on Atabegs of Azerbaijan ? It look like more on Lion
Maybe you can use better the symbol of the Gokturks

Calm down a bit. . You should take a better look I think. Volga Bulgars have the same leopard as symbol, not bear. But its a bit different kind.

Yes, it is wolf not lion. Changing side to Persians? I think you misunderstood me. As I said, Atabegs of Azerbaijan will be made as a Turkic faction. But Atabegs of Kerman and Fars were populated by Persians and Persia based. All of the symbols are done according to sources.

[Alejandro Sanchez]

That Tamga was before 922 AD Maybe and The Army used Maybe But Volga Bulgars Converted To islam in 922 AD With Almush Djafar ibn Abdallah c. 895-c. 925
Muslim from 922 AD

Based on what you have done such a conclusion? It is only your personal opinion or you can verify it with something? For example, Kazakhs use tamgha so far, and their adoption of Islam does not affect this
Archaeologists (Tatar) who work in the territory of Tatarstan, argue that this tamga was used until the 13 th century.

They was Muslim Volga Bulgarians and Believe me Kazan-Khanate get it that Symbol from Volga people IF KAZANS USED OWN SYMBOL LOGO THAT WAS SAME WITH CRIMEAN KHANATE, KAZANS USED SYMBOL OF VOLGA PEOPLES

There is something that confirms your words?

WHAT IS THAT MAN A BEAR FOR BULGARIANS HAHAHAHA COME ON IS THIS NOW A RUSSIAN FACTION ? MAYBE A RUSSIAN WANTED THIS

This is winged bars (leopard)
If you're such a good judge of Turkic history, which consider yourself, you should know this symbol and this artwork style. Now I'm beginning to doubt your competence
Russia and Russians have nothing to do with this

[Boztorgai_Khan]

Based on what you have done such a conclusion? It is only your personal opinion or you can verify it with something? For example, Kazakhs use tamgha so far, and their adoption of Islam does not affect this
Archaeologists who work in the territory of Tatarstan, argue that this tamga was used until the 13 th century.


There is something that confirms your words?


This is winged bars (leopard)
If you're such a good judge of Turkic history, which consider yourself, you should know this symbol and this artwork style. Now I'm beginning to doubt your competence
Russia and Russians have nothing to do with this

Sure, Sure, Do it what you want and believe it what you want

[Alejandro Sanchez]

Sure, Sure, Do it what you want and believe it what you want

In other words, you can not confirm your findings serious arguments???
If instead you attack my personality, then this conversation is meaningless

[Lazy Knight]

Impressive work, Boztorgai Khan.

I am sure Family Members are needed to create a faction

And Mirni: put so many pictures into spoilers, makes reading the thread much easier!

[Boztorgai_Khan]

Impressive work, Boztorgai Khan.

I am sure Family Members are needed to create a faction

Sorry I Want First Waiting For BC TEAM.

If NEW BC TEAM WANT A DREAM FANTASY HISTORY MOD THEN I DONT HELP YOU NEW BC TEAM.

SO IF I LOOK IT SOME WANTED OUR KIPCHAKS AND VOLGA BULGARIANS MAKING A RUSSIAN FACTION.

AND ATABEGS OF TURKS MAKING A PERSIAN FACTION.

AND MONGOLS AND KARA-KHITAI'S ( KARA-KHANIDS ) MAKING A CHINESE FACTION.

DO IT BUT I DONT WANT A PART OF THIS DREAM FAKE MOD. PLEASE READED MORE ABOUT OUR HISTORY AND DONT READED IN ENGLISH WE HAVE OUR OWN LANGUAGE AND WE KNOW MORE THEN ALL YOU..

[SoulBlade]

Cool information, Boztorgai_Khan , but would you mind to put some of your text in spoilers please?