Genetic technology - creation of superhuman

[Nikitn]

So let's say in 20 years scientists are able 2 modify DNA in a human (cloning is already possible as far as I know). They come up with the bright idea of making "perfect" humans (superiourly atheltic, lives longer more healthy maybe better mental traits as well). But then we have pesky people saying it is wrong, that there would become an upper class of humans and an under class of humans.

Do you think it is right 2 create a breed of super-humans? Afterall the evolution tells us 2 do it.

. Admin can you make this poll so that every1 can see who voted what???

[Caliph]

I voted Yes. If scientists/doctors can achieve it and if potential parents are willing participants then they can do it. If the baby dies then it's on their heads.
The same people who object to inessential plastic surgery on grounds that it's rejecting God's work, simply don't have to partake in it as they don't in plastic surgery.

[Nikitn]

I don't think that you realize what kind of changes will be made. Basically YOU and other humans will be made obsolete, and a secondary class race - if the production of super humans will become popular.

[Caliph]

I don't think that you realize what kind of changes will be made. Basically YOU and other humans will be made obsolete, and a secondary class race - if the production of super humans will become popular.

I think you are underestimating us regular humans ability to succeed. Plus in life you meet people who are seemingly physically stronger, smarter, more educated yet everyone has his faults. What if someone is stronger, smarter, more knowledgeable yet not disciplined or lazy. That will make someone with lower skills a better candidate for a job if he/she has a stronger will-power.

[Squiggle]

I think you are underestimating us regular humans ability to succeed. Plus in life you meet people who are seemingly physically stronger, smarter, more educated yet everyone has his faults. What if someone is stronger, smarter, more knowledgeable yet not disciplined or lazy. That will make someone with lower skills a better candidate for a job if he/she has a stronger will-power.

Regular humans have those faults as well. Nothing in terms of character has changed between the idea of a super human and human, so we can only assume given the proper parentage that the same amount of moral and motivated superhumans will emerge as regular humans. Then there innate advantages simply become advantages, and we get pushed out. Besides that...not entirely sure if an increase in abilities to whatever extent fundamentally wouldn't create a tribal/narcissistic atmosphere. Similar to Star Trek might I add.

That's BS in a nutshell. If you really believe that mankind shouldn't do anything to better itself then maybe you should go and live in the woods with the rest of the animals. After all, it would be wrong to go against nature and chop down trees to build homes, or manipulate natural resources for tools.

When I say nature I mean God. ing with our genome is a spit in the eye of God...

[TheXand]

When I say nature I mean God. ing with our genome is a spit in the eye of God...

There being no proof whatsoever for any type of gods I feel pretty okay about spitting in his eye. If your god were inept enough to create beings that could defy him and his natural order then he deserves our defiance. Anyway, your god supposedly created us in his image, so if we are able to better ourselves by altering DNA then clearly we were meant to.

[Caliph]

Regular humans have those faults as well. Nothing in terms of character has changed between the idea of a super human and human, so we can only assume given the proper parentage that the same amount of moral and motivated superhumans will emerge as regular humans. Then there innate advantages simply become advantages, and we get pushed out. Besides that...not entirely sure if an increase in abilities to whatever extent fundamentally wouldn't create a tribal/narcissistic atmosphere. Similar to Star Trek might I add.

I see your point. Us regulars getting pushed is a very real possibility. Yet I would still not object to others who choose to do it. I believe God's design will ultimately trump humanity's refind version simply because it needs NO technology to produce.

[Augment]

As long as society doesn't turn our as Gattaca.
But i think it would be better to let evolution and natural selection do it for us because there are so many dumb people with money who will gladly pay for some enhancements and i dont want that to happen.
Only people who are already strong and smart should be able to get enhanced, normal people get cures and stuff but no enhancements.

ing with our genome is a spit in the eye of God...

My pleasure, anything to discredit religion.

[Arch-hereticK]

How could we stop the scientists once they have an army of secretly created super-soldiers guarding their labs?

But seriously it's too late to stop it, genetic engineering has already saved many lives from gentic diseases such as cystic fibrosis and muscle regeneration of polio survivors. To take away the miracles worked by genetic engineering is to spit in the faces of people who've suffered more than any of us could imagine. So people who called it evil? Shove your self-righteous up-turned noses up your puckered pompous :wub:s, sincerely.

[iudas]

There are already superior humans and inferior humans, so why not.

[Squiggle]

We shouldn't be screwing around with DNA in the first place, its not what we are meant to do. It defies the laws of nature- let alone the whole concept of eugenics which itself is barbaric. So...no.

[TheXand]

We shouldn't be screwing around with DNA in the first place, its not what we are meant to do. It defies the laws of nature- let alone the whole concept of eugenics which itself is barbaric. So...no.

That's BS in a nutshell. If you really believe that mankind shouldn't do anything to better itself then maybe you should go and live in the woods with the animals. After all, it would be wrong to go against nature and chop down trees to build homes, or manipulate natural resources for tools. Maybe you should expose yourself completely to the elements because seeking shelter would be going against nature.

[scarybandit]

We shouldn't be screwing around with DNA in the first place, its not what we are meant to do.

Yeah, like genetically inherited diseases should ruin just as many lives as they want to!

[Boyar Son]

Sure we should find ways to heal faster and become more resistant to sickness. then our population size will swell so we will become the orks of the galaxy as soon as the year 40,000 comes around.

[43rdFoot]

It's messing with things that ought not be messed with. Humanity is doing fine, we are already the master of our domain. What good could "superhumans" do? Besides that, what is the definition of a "superhuman" anyway?

[TheXand]

It's messing with things that ought not be messed with. Humanity is doing fine, we are already the master of our domain. What good could "superhumans" do? Besides that, what is the definition of a "superhuman" anyway?

Total nonsense. It is human nature to better ourselves and our environment, had we greater strength, intelligence and aesthetic appeal the world would become much better suited to humans.
Besides, who are you to judge what we should and should not be messing with? Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean that it should be shunned forevermore.

[Mr. Pink]

I voted no. It would end up a mess one way or another.

[Confederate Jeb]

It isn't possible, first off. But since this is theoretical, voted no.

I thought humans screwed up macro-evolution so much that it wasn't possible anymore? You evolutionists need to stick with one story.

[TheXand]

It isn't possible, first off. But since this is theoretical, voted no.

I thought humans screwed up macro-evolution so much that it wasn't possible anymore? You evolutionists need to stick with one story.

It is theoretically possible and has been done to animals though hasn't been tried on humans yet. It's possible to make animals smarter and stronger amongst other things (glow in the dark mice were cool).

[Tacitursa]

I voted yes. We already improve ourselfs and go against nature. For the people that are against it because of god, What do you think about organ transplants? When doctors remove the heart of one person and give it to another person to save there life, And how is that any different to adding new DNA.

I do actually think humans will alter our species via DNA. It may not be in our lifetimes but it is going to happen. Humans cannot remain on earth forever its as simple as that. Humans will one day have to move to a new world. And that new world will require change. It's a thousand times easier to change ourselfs than changing a planet.

The only way humans can colonize and spread throughout the universe is if we specialize ourselfs. We are very limited in our current forms. Just altering our lungs to function like a birds would give us a huge advantage in different atmospheres and altitudes on different planets.

Altering our bones to be much stronger would increase our survival 10 fold and allow longer periods of time in space without skeleton deformation and so on.

We could already be doing stuff like this if it wasnt for religion. It will always slow man down, it's a shame.