Question : how make Nazgul General(mordor) and recruit??

[Baxon7]

Question :

how make a Mordor Nazgul General with black numenorian and recruit !?

i want just can recruit a Nazgul general like NE bodygurad from Vanilla.

can some tell me how i can do? or can some make a subs mods for this?

hope its ok post this thred in Submod,thanks.

[Wolfsblut]

In the RC/RR submod you start with all 9 nazguls and be able to recruit black numenorian units.

In vanilla they spawn automatically from time to time if i remember right, but i dont know that for sure, in 1.4 i played mordor only with the RCRR.

Personally i enjoyed this one
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=343207
adds the Lore for the elves as well.

[Seleukos_I.]

Question :

how make a Mordor Nazgul General with black numenorian and recruit !?

i want just can recruit a Nazgul general like NE bodygurad from Vanilla.

can some tell me how i can do? or can some make a subs mods for this?

hope its ok post this thred in Submod,thanks.

I'm not sure but I think it's impossible to recruit Nazgul. You can make Black Numenorians recruitable as bodyguards, but I guess you'll end up with an Orc general instead of a Nazgul.

[Skeleton Of The West]

Actually you can make a Nazgul unit and make it recruitable since you already have the model and the skin, it just requires some modding knowledge .

Baxon7, do you want a unit of Nazgul to recruit, or a unit of Black Numenorians?

[Baxon7]

I'm not sure but I think it's impossible to recruit Nazgul. You can make Black Numenorians recruitable as bodyguards, but I guess you'll end up with an Orc general instead of a Nazgul.

its fine too with Orc general..will the general sit on horse?
and can u or any make a files and put them on here? thanks

with TATW 1.4.1

[Seleukos_I.]

Ok since you already modded the edb I think I only need to upload the edu.
TWC won't let me upload it, I'm just going to tell you what I've done.
1. Go to edu.
2. Search for Black Numenorians.
3. Add general_unit to their attributes.
4. If you want to have all new generals with Black Numenorians, leave it as it is.
If you only want the recruited generals to have them, copy the part which refers to Black Numenorians at the end of the Mordor section. It should look like this in the end:

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type Uruk Bodyguards
dictionary Uruk_Bodyguards ; Uruk Bodyguards
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type General
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier Norse_Swordsmen, 30, 0, 1.2
mount_effect elephant +2
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, can_withdraw, general_unit, no_custom
formation 1.5, 1.5, 3.0, 3.0, 5, square
stat_health 1, 3
stat_pri 9, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 8, 4, 5, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground 0, 0, 0, -2
stat_mental 13, normal, trained
stat_charge_dist 15
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 860, 250, 100, 100, 860, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 3, 4
armour_ug_models mordor_uruks, mordor_uruks_upg
ownership england
era 0 england
era 1 england
era 2 england
recruit_priority_offset 5


type Black Numenorians
dictionary Black_Numenorians ; Black Numenorians
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type General
banner faction main_cavalry
banner holy crusade
soldier Huscarls, 15, 0, 1
mount nazgul horse
mount_effect elephant -4, camel -4
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, very_hardy, can_withdraw, frighten_foot, frighten_mounted, can_formed_charge, general_unit
formation 2, 4.4, 3, 6, 2, square
stat_health 1, 3
stat_pri 11, 6, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, slashing, axe, 25, 1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 10, 8, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 0
stat_ground -1, -1, -3, -2
stat_mental 17, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 1500, 420, 100, 100, 1500, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 3, 4
armour_ug_models black_numenorians, black_numenorians_upg
ownership england
era 0 england
era 1 england
era 2 england
recruit_priority_offset 5

[Baxon7]

i've add Black Numenorians on castle in edu.txt..but i dont wanna them as normal horse..wish with a general.

hope some can make this for me and all that wanna too.
sry my english

[Baxon7]

Great,Thanks Seleukos_I. Rep+

now i can keep all family-"member" in all city and user general,that support nagzul to battle
wish that was with Nazgul as general..hope someone creat/make that.

[el Cid]

It would be great to have a black numenorean as standard general. This would be lore correct as orcs were never in charge of armies. If the model was just used for general it would look good.

And orcs were far too stupid anyways. For mordor it would be better to have black numenoreans for generals and orcs for captains.

[Lordinquisitor]

It would be great to have a black numenorean as standard general. This would be lore correct as orcs were never in charge of armies. If the model was just used for general it would look good.

Wrong.

[el Cid]

And how is this wrong? Maybe of armies of the Orcs of the Misty Mountains or Isengard, but not Mordor's. And please don't say Gothmog, it is not specified in the books what he actually was.

[MonkeyChief]

Hey thats interesting - is there a way to swap the orc captain (eg not a general) with a dismounted black num. model?

[HolyDevil]

well since mordor already gets tons of generals, and since those black numenorians already kick ass with nazguls

having them as u have, u don't need orcs, usually 2 nazguls rout a gondor ~600 men stack, now if u go out with a full stack of those guys... well to hell with the orcs, u don't need them at all

[el Cid]

Hey thats interesting - is there a way to swap the orc captain (eg not a general) with a dismounted black num. model?

Of course it is possible, there are different models for captains and generals in MII vanilla too. It is even possible to give faction heirs and family members a different model than the regular general one.

well since mordor already gets tons of generals, and since those black numenorians already kick ass with nazguls

having them as u have, u don't need orcs, usually 2 nazguls rout a gondor ~600 men stack, now if u go out with a full stack of those guys... well to hell with the orcs, u don't need them at all

IMO they should be very hard to recruit.

And I meant a Black Númenorean with an Uruk bodyguard.

[Baxon7]

hmm Dismounted Numenorians as general with Black Numenorians would be great
if can,so perect!

and Orcs general should keep on family member.

But i am not a expert to modder/code at this region.sorry

[Skeleton Of The West]

Hey thats interesting - is there a way to swap the orc captain (eg not a general) with a dismounted black num. model?

Yes thats possible, simply swap the model and skin of the current one into a black numenorian one. If you want I can write here a small guide on how to do it, just tell me if you do.

hmm Dismounted Numenorians as general with Black Numenorians would be great
if can,so perect!

and Orcs general should keep on family member.

But i am not a expert to modder/code at this region.sorry

Do you mean having a dismounted unit with a mounted captain? As far as I know its not possible...