... and Mohammed El-Baradei.
Oslo has done the sensible: This time they gave the peace nobel to people who really deserve it. And it's a slap in the face for all those nuclear powers who just can't let the weapons be.
Darkness is the light
And the prize goes to ... IAEA ...
... and Mohammed El-Baradei.
Oslo has done the sensible: This time they gave the peace nobel to people who really deserve it. And it's a slap in the face for all those nuclear powers who just can't let the weapons be.
For my name is Legion
It seems we are, as a world running out of legendary figures to give the Nobel peace prize to, se we are awarding it to organizations that really do not do that much.
And I think this years Nobel is far better than last years, to the African I-do-not-know-her-name ecology activist...
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Senator
Another idiotic decision by Oslo.............. but then atleast its not Bono or Geldoff.....
Civitate
Actually Id say I think Bono and Geldoff are far more deserving if you are comparing them to IAEA, atleast Bono and Geldoff have something to show for their effortOriginally Posted by Mr.Flint
Senator
Dunno,i found the bullying of PM Martin by Bono as quite disgusting.... (as well as his support for the Liberal party of Canada, and his appearance on the caucus)Actually Id say I think Bono and Geldoff are far more deserving if you are comparing them to IAEA, atleast Bono and Geldoff have something to show for their effort
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Bono walking away with the Nobel peace prize would be better than IAEA walking away with it...
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Senator
Hard to expect good choices from people who gave a Nobel peace prize to Arafat...
anyway Bono is only slightly lower than IAEA in my list of people deserving a peace prize.... and both of them are not in the top 10.
Dux Limitis
agreed. People who actually did their job properly should desirve it.
However this same group gave arafat the prize....
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Ducenarius
Yhea we have Iran about to go Nuclear, lets not forget Pakistan and India and that great stable regime of North Korea already being there.
Yhea lets give an award to a person and org. that cannot even do their job.
Makes as much sense as giving the award to a terrorist. Oslo and the prize has become nothing but a joke.
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Arturo
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Certainly not a joke... but rather a form of myth creation in this lack-oflideal world...
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Lets see. Iran going nuclear? Well itsentitled to nuclear power. India and Pakistan: helped by Cold-War politics and line-drawing, in fact India had the US undermining the IAEA, and N. Korea was not a signatory to the Non-Proliferation Treaty....Yhea we have Iran about to go Nuclear, lets not forget Pakistan and India and that great stable regime of North Korea already being there.
Yhea lets give an award to a person and org. that cannot even do their job.
Makes as much sense as giving the award to a terrorist. Oslo and the prize has become nothing but a joke.
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Ducenarius
Yes they are, but let's not be niave and foolish to think they are not trying to build a bomb. They have fooled the IAEA and Baradia.Lets see. Iran going nuclear? Well itsentitled to nuclear power.
The IAEA failed to stop both and I have nothing to prove the US undermined the IAEA. What would be gained in that?India and Pakistan: helped by Cold-War politics and line-drawing, in fact India had the US undermining the IAEA,
Yes and once again another failure of the IAEA to have any power to stop them or influnce them.N. Korea was not a signatory to the Non-Proliferation Treaty....
My main point is that Baradai and the IAEA got a Peace Prize, so what did they do to earn it this last year or any of the previous years? That is what makes the Nobel Peace Prize worthless at this point in time.
It first started when they gave it to a terrorist and murderer and it has just been downhill from there.
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So, ajimenez3, who would you prefer to get the prize? The options are rather limited.
Dux Limitis
The IAEA deserves it.
They are one of the most important factor in preventing a war against Iran.
But I understand why some people are so unhappy: they WANT to go to war with Iran... well, it's a PEACE price.
Senator
um so far the IAEA arent very succesful in preventing a war against Iran....
remember prizes given for something finished, not for the effort.
Dux Limitis
Actually by that logic Bush's approval ratings should be given the prize.
Swear filters are for sites run by immature children.
Civitate
Er Id say Iraq has more to do with it then IAEA and Id say Iran isnt totally clear or safe from some type of response.
Nonsense some people just arent naive enough to trust a country who's motto is death to america, death to israel...hell Im amazed they dont have it printed on their currency. Peace at any cost isnt a peace worth having, havent we learned anything from history that sticking ones head in the sand doesnt make things magically ok.But I understand why some people are so unhappy: they WANT to go to war with Iran... well, it's a PEACE price.
Dux Limitis
This was exactly what I was talking about.
The Nobel peace prize should not question if peace is actually a good thing.
Just as the Nobel physics prize should not question if advancements in physics are actually a good thing.
So you beleive Iran is evil and should be attacked? good for you.
Alfred Nobel beleived peace was always a good thing, and it's HIS price and HIS money.
Us mortals just have to live with it.
Maybe if you make a whole lot of money you can establish a "fight war for good" price.
Civitate
And thats will Ill disagree with you 100%, as I said peace for the sake of peace that doesnt create a 'real' peace is meaningless. Was Munich Agreement a useful 'peace agreement'? I never said Iran was evil or that it deserved to be attacked, do not put words in my mouth but I do think it is premature to say it has escaped any action. You wish to give the benfit of the doubt to a country that in my eyes doesnt deserve it, difference of opinion I guess. All well and good if you believe peace prizes should be given to those who have done nothing for real peace then great. And I wasnt aware Nobel was brought back from the death to pick the winners.
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