Forgotten Realms Of Middle Earth (FRoME) submod in every official release of T.A.T.W.

[Violator]

O.k everyone!!! now that we have seen FRoMEhttp://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=323812 playing it ,enjoying it, and above all appreciate this great submod (Koultouras the team leader have been made artifex and recognised by the whole community because of FRoME) it is time to vote and show our grandmaster K.K. how much we his loyal fans would love to see FRoME part of every official T.A.T.W. release!!! if it is possible try to justify your choise shortly. So come on everybody vote!!!

[Slater456]

I like the new units but I don't like the split up of the factions, the units should be implented no doubt, maybe with some reskinning of KK and Bilwit

[MasterBigAb]

It is sensless to discuss or vote this.
Some people will say yes, the others no so without any matter how much want or don't wnat it it will not be integrated, as that's the only option to make it for everybody's likeing

if you implent it, the people who don't want it aren't glad about it
if you do not, the people who want it integrated can simple download the submod, that's the advantage and the sense of submods

[Seleukos_I.]

It is sensless to discuss or vote this.
Some people will say yes, the others no so without any matter how much want or don't wnat it it will not be integrated, as that's the only option to make it for everybody's likeing

if you implent it, the people who don't want it aren't glad about it
if you do not, the people who want it integrated can simple download the submod, that's the advantage and the sense of submods

Agreed

[Violator]

It is sensless to discuss or vote this.
Some people will say yes, the others no so without any matter how much want or don't wnat it it will not be integrated, as that's the only option to make it for everybody's likeing

if you implent it, the people who don't want it aren't glad about it
if you do not, the people who want it integrated can simple download the submod, that's the advantage and the sense of submods

That is why i give the option no submods at all my friend!!!

[Tyre]

It is sensless to discuss or vote this.
Some people will say yes, the others no so without any matter how much want or don't wnat it it will not be integrated, as that's the only option to make it for everybody's likeing

if you implent it, the people who don't want it aren't glad about it
if you do not, the people who want it integrated can simple download the submod, that's the advantage and the sense of submods

Not really since whatever submods are included in the official download will force other submods to become compatible thus reducing the amount of integration the user has to do.

Not saying it should or shouldn't be as I a have not tried this submod but that is the reason why many have been included and more will be in the future most likely.

[MasterBigAb]

Not really since whatever submods are included in the official download will force other submods to become compatible thus reducing the amount of integration the user has to do.

Not saying it should or shouldn't be as I a have not tried this submod but that is the reason why many have been included and more will be in the future most likely.

i think it is some kind of logical that a submod has to be made for the mod and not the mod for the submods...
submods are always used by a minority (if you look at each submod itself, no one itself will have more olayers than people without this submod) so all submods wich were integrated are submods wich really everyone likes...
for example additional heros...
the people asked for them, they are in a submod and i think nobody doesn't want to have them, so they are integrated...
visual enhencement, is the same case, new and better looking pics, may be only very very few people don't like it, so it comes to the main mod

what i want to say is that the main mod is made like the devs want and what the fans ask for...
so submods which everybody like are integrated, because the fans want it....
otehr submods are only liked by parts like this submod
it doesn't even have to do with the quality of the submod, as FROME is a really great one i have to say and am convinced so....
neverless there are many who don't want this four faction integrated in the main mod, so when we woudl do it, they won't liek it....
but if we don't, the others can still download the submod...

it is just fine as it is now, it doesn't make much sense the other way...
but i have no probelm if you vote of course.... just wanted to point out that this won't affect the decision wether it comes to the main mod or not at all

[Raiven]

I would prefer addition of Dunland, but not others, although moddels are great...but that is just me

[Hero of the West]

submods which change the game to much should remain submods.. submods that improve the current game could be integrated in the main mod.. that's how i see it.. i think FROME is awesome but changes to much in the vanilla game to be used as such..

[el Cid]

You could also put it this way: Would you want the Dwarves and SE to be separated and Dunland added? If yes then why let KK do it if a submod saves him the time?

[koultouras]

They only thing i will add to the table is that u all should have in mind that, sometimes modders
---who are real people not some deitiy that have come to this world with only one purpose---.....
may not be able to dedicate all their free time into making compatible versions of potentially new releases.....
and this is why sometimes
some great-mods (like agostinos & dea P 's additional units) are declared dead from time to time!......

I cant vote though, cause i cant be neutral about it .............!please forgive that to me!

[MasterBigAb]

They only thing i will add to the table is that u all should have in mind that, sometimes modders
---who are real people not some deitiy that have come to this world with only one purpose---.....
may not be able to dedicate all their free time into making compatible versions of potentially new releases.....
and this is why sometimes
some great-mods (like agostinos & dea P 's additional units) are declared dead from time to time!......

I cant vote though, cause i cant be neutral about it .............!please forgive that to me!

I also don't vote
i would vote no just because that's the way with the least "problems"

but i like FROME too much to actually vote "against" it, so i don't vote at all

KK will decide and I will stick to his decision.

Well i can tell you...or I already pointed out the main reason why it wouldn't make too much sense....so it isn't hard to guess what he will say to this

[Muffer Nl]

No, keep it separated. This give the player more choice in what game they want to play.

[killerrabbit]

No, keep it separated. This give the player more choice in what game they want to play.

Agreed, if you would add all good submods to the mod itself, there will always be some people that don't like it.

So I say, keep it seperate.

[Beorn]

no from me too

[Eöl]

A definately no from me too.
This would ruin tatw. No new factions to vanille tatw!!!

[maxi90]

i say it migth be a good idea (much more lore friendly, plus lots of people were asking for those factions to be implemented). but i would say that the units need to be revised and upgraded so they will fit the athmosphere and quality of the game.

[AnthoniusII]

A huge YES. FROME is one of the most well developted submods.
I think KK will have the same opinion and accept the "help" of FROME addition in TATW.

[Louis Lux]

i say it migth be a good idea (much more lore friendly, plus lots of people were asking for those factions to be implemented). but i would say that the units need to be revised and upgraded so they will fit the athmosphere and quality of the game.

Yes, as of now vanilla and frome have their own style and I would prefer them to stay separate. I would still not want for the factions to be split like that in the main tatw, something like DAC would make more sense to me since all factions are split so balance is somewhat preserved. It's nice to have the option to play the different sub mods and the vanilla version.

[Nergor]

In my opinion the adding in of new factions would give the gameplay of TATW more deep. At Vanilla Eriador and the Dwarves are too powerfull, FRoME counters that with Dunland and splitting the Dwarves into two factions.