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    The world now fully accepts Israel's conclusion that Iran is seeking to obtain nuclear arms and has overcome initial resistance to the finding. At least in the West, there is widespread agreement that Iran has reached an advanced stage of its nuclear program and that none of the steps taken so far have diverted it from that goal.

    Last year, when Benjamin Netanyahu was elected as Prime Minister of Israel, he said he would stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons[he also compared Iran to Nazi Germany].

    If the sanctions won't stop Iran's nuclear program, chances are that an Israeli attack on Iran's nuclear facilities will happen.

    Iran have said that any attack on their nuclear facility will be beginning of war

    If a war would start between the two countries, what do you think will be the result?

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    The thread should be retitled "America Vs Iran". Because we all now America will be coming to the rescue for that irresponsible spoiled brat called Israel.

    Although, I would really like to know if America would support Israel in act of aggression against Iran.

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    Remeber the 7 Day war where Israel Destroyed 4 Countries? (I think so)

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    Quote Originally Posted by georgeman51 View Post
    Remeber the 7 Day war where Israel Destroyed 4 Countries? (I think so)
    Err, I'm pretty sure it was Six...
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    Both male and female walruses have tusks and have been observed using these overgrown teeth to help pull themselves out of the water.

    The mustached and long-tusked walrus is most often found near the Arctic Circle, lying on the ice with hundreds of companions. These marine mammals are extremely sociable, prone to loudly bellowing and snorting at one another, but are aggressive during mating season. With wrinkled brown and pink hides, walruses are distinguished by their long white tusks, grizzly whiskers, flat flipper, and bodies full of blubber.
    Walruses use their iconic long tusks for a variety of reasons, each of which makes their lives in the Arctic a bit easier. They use them to haul their enormous bodies out of frigid waters, thus their "tooth-walking" label, and to break breathing holes into ice from below. Their tusks, which are found on both males and females, can extend to about three feet (one meter), and are, in fact, large canine teeth, which grow throughout their lives. Male walruses, or bulls, also employ their tusks aggressively to maintain territory and, during mating season, to protect their harems of females, or cows.
    The walrus' other characteristic features are equally useful. As their favorite meals, particularly shellfish, are found near the dark ocean floor, walruses use their extremely sensitive whiskers, called mustacial vibrissae, as detection devices. Their blubbery bodies allow them to live comfortably in the Arctic region—walruses are capable of slowing their heartbeats in order to withstand the polar temperatures of the surrounding waters.
    The two subspecies of walrus are divided geographically. Atlantic walruses inhabit coastal areas from northeastern Canada to Greenland, while Pacific walruses inhabit the northern seas off Russia and Alaska, migrating seasonally from their southern range in the Bering Sea—where they are found on the pack ice in winter—to the Chukchi Sea. Female Pacific walruses give birth to calves during the spring migration north.
    Only Native Americans are currently allowed to hunt walruses, as the species' survival was threatened by past overhunting. Their tusks, oil, skin, and meat were so sought after in the 18th and 19th centuries that the walrus was hunted to extinction in the Gulf of St. Lawrence and around Sable Island, off the coast of Nova Scotia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by georgeman51 View Post
    Remeber the 7 Day war where Israel Destroyed 4 Countries? (I think so)
    Wow! Destroyed four countries in six... seven days?!!? Hitler got nothing on that one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwock View Post
    Wow! Destroyed four countries in six... seven days?!!? Hitler got nothing on that one!
    What's Hitler got to do with anything?
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    Both male and female walruses have tusks and have been observed using these overgrown teeth to help pull themselves out of the water.

    The mustached and long-tusked walrus is most often found near the Arctic Circle, lying on the ice with hundreds of companions. These marine mammals are extremely sociable, prone to loudly bellowing and snorting at one another, but are aggressive during mating season. With wrinkled brown and pink hides, walruses are distinguished by their long white tusks, grizzly whiskers, flat flipper, and bodies full of blubber.
    Walruses use their iconic long tusks for a variety of reasons, each of which makes their lives in the Arctic a bit easier. They use them to haul their enormous bodies out of frigid waters, thus their "tooth-walking" label, and to break breathing holes into ice from below. Their tusks, which are found on both males and females, can extend to about three feet (one meter), and are, in fact, large canine teeth, which grow throughout their lives. Male walruses, or bulls, also employ their tusks aggressively to maintain territory and, during mating season, to protect their harems of females, or cows.
    The walrus' other characteristic features are equally useful. As their favorite meals, particularly shellfish, are found near the dark ocean floor, walruses use their extremely sensitive whiskers, called mustacial vibrissae, as detection devices. Their blubbery bodies allow them to live comfortably in the Arctic region—walruses are capable of slowing their heartbeats in order to withstand the polar temperatures of the surrounding waters.
    The two subspecies of walrus are divided geographically. Atlantic walruses inhabit coastal areas from northeastern Canada to Greenland, while Pacific walruses inhabit the northern seas off Russia and Alaska, migrating seasonally from their southern range in the Bering Sea—where they are found on the pack ice in winter—to the Chukchi Sea. Female Pacific walruses give birth to calves during the spring migration north.
    Only Native Americans are currently allowed to hunt walruses, as the species' survival was threatened by past overhunting. Their tusks, oil, skin, and meat were so sought after in the 18th and 19th centuries that the walrus was hunted to extinction in the Gulf of St. Lawrence and around Sable Island, off the coast of Nova Scotia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodguy1066 View Post
    What's Hitler got to do with anything?
    Oh I don't know... maybe it was how Hitler steamrolled through several countries. But he sure as hell didn't destroy 4 of them in 6 err 7 days! That should go down as a record!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwock View Post
    Oh I don't know... maybe it was how Hitler steamrolled through several countries. But he sure as hell didn't destroy 4 of them in 6 days! That should go down as a record!
    But Hitler did it as an act of agression and expansion, we did it to defend ourselves!
    Google "Six-Day War"...
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    Both male and female walruses have tusks and have been observed using these overgrown teeth to help pull themselves out of the water.

    The mustached and long-tusked walrus is most often found near the Arctic Circle, lying on the ice with hundreds of companions. These marine mammals are extremely sociable, prone to loudly bellowing and snorting at one another, but are aggressive during mating season. With wrinkled brown and pink hides, walruses are distinguished by their long white tusks, grizzly whiskers, flat flipper, and bodies full of blubber.
    Walruses use their iconic long tusks for a variety of reasons, each of which makes their lives in the Arctic a bit easier. They use them to haul their enormous bodies out of frigid waters, thus their "tooth-walking" label, and to break breathing holes into ice from below. Their tusks, which are found on both males and females, can extend to about three feet (one meter), and are, in fact, large canine teeth, which grow throughout their lives. Male walruses, or bulls, also employ their tusks aggressively to maintain territory and, during mating season, to protect their harems of females, or cows.
    The walrus' other characteristic features are equally useful. As their favorite meals, particularly shellfish, are found near the dark ocean floor, walruses use their extremely sensitive whiskers, called mustacial vibrissae, as detection devices. Their blubbery bodies allow them to live comfortably in the Arctic region—walruses are capable of slowing their heartbeats in order to withstand the polar temperatures of the surrounding waters.
    The two subspecies of walrus are divided geographically. Atlantic walruses inhabit coastal areas from northeastern Canada to Greenland, while Pacific walruses inhabit the northern seas off Russia and Alaska, migrating seasonally from their southern range in the Bering Sea—where they are found on the pack ice in winter—to the Chukchi Sea. Female Pacific walruses give birth to calves during the spring migration north.
    Only Native Americans are currently allowed to hunt walruses, as the species' survival was threatened by past overhunting. Their tusks, oil, skin, and meat were so sought after in the 18th and 19th centuries that the walrus was hunted to extinction in the Gulf of St. Lawrence and around Sable Island, off the coast of Nova Scotia.

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    Iran would lose badly. Itd cry to the UN or watever superpower is backing it. The UN would pass a resolution, etc, etc. Israel will go home having destroyed most of the nuclear development sites, and im sure that the Iranians will claim a victory somehow/somewhere.

    And it was the 6 day war, where within a week Israel took Jerusalem and the West Bank from Jordan, advanced all the way to Sinai in Egypt and took the Golan Heights from Syria. Im sure other arabic countries participated, but those were the three that got 'invaded'.

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    if israel attacks, that's it, the chips are off the table and that gives iran's side leverage in the UN to pursue nukes; not even China or Russia or Euope will let israel get off the hook in this day and age; this aint 1995, it's 2010 and it's a differnet ballgame now

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    If in doubt, compare your enemies to Hitler. That'll sure add plenty of gravitas to your arguments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jom View Post
    If in doubt, compare your enemies to Hitler. That'll sure add plenty of gravitas to your arguments.
    I never compared them to Hitler! I defended Israel from being called Nazis! I would use the slapface smiley, but when it doesn't slap itself it smiles, so that doesn't convey my emotions. I'll just use this:
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    Both male and female walruses have tusks and have been observed using these overgrown teeth to help pull themselves out of the water.

    The mustached and long-tusked walrus is most often found near the Arctic Circle, lying on the ice with hundreds of companions. These marine mammals are extremely sociable, prone to loudly bellowing and snorting at one another, but are aggressive during mating season. With wrinkled brown and pink hides, walruses are distinguished by their long white tusks, grizzly whiskers, flat flipper, and bodies full of blubber.
    Walruses use their iconic long tusks for a variety of reasons, each of which makes their lives in the Arctic a bit easier. They use them to haul their enormous bodies out of frigid waters, thus their "tooth-walking" label, and to break breathing holes into ice from below. Their tusks, which are found on both males and females, can extend to about three feet (one meter), and are, in fact, large canine teeth, which grow throughout their lives. Male walruses, or bulls, also employ their tusks aggressively to maintain territory and, during mating season, to protect their harems of females, or cows.
    The walrus' other characteristic features are equally useful. As their favorite meals, particularly shellfish, are found near the dark ocean floor, walruses use their extremely sensitive whiskers, called mustacial vibrissae, as detection devices. Their blubbery bodies allow them to live comfortably in the Arctic region—walruses are capable of slowing their heartbeats in order to withstand the polar temperatures of the surrounding waters.
    The two subspecies of walrus are divided geographically. Atlantic walruses inhabit coastal areas from northeastern Canada to Greenland, while Pacific walruses inhabit the northern seas off Russia and Alaska, migrating seasonally from their southern range in the Bering Sea—where they are found on the pack ice in winter—to the Chukchi Sea. Female Pacific walruses give birth to calves during the spring migration north.
    Only Native Americans are currently allowed to hunt walruses, as the species' survival was threatened by past overhunting. Their tusks, oil, skin, and meat were so sought after in the 18th and 19th centuries that the walrus was hunted to extinction in the Gulf of St. Lawrence and around Sable Island, off the coast of Nova Scotia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodguy1066 View Post
    I never compared them to Hitler! I defended Israel from being called Nazis! I would use the slapface smiley, but when it doesn't slap itself it smiles, so that doesn't convey my emotions. I'll just use this:
    I wasn't referring to your post, actually. Israel may use methods that an Apartheid regime would favour but it's nowhere near Hitler.

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    Iran would win. its bigger, more powerfully is more best equipped, Israel also has poor relationship right now with must of the world. Iran has great relationship with its neighbours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philipOhayda View Post
    Iran would win. its bigger, more powerfully is more best equipped, Israel also has poor relationship right now with must of the world. Iran has great relationship with its neighbours.
    One of the only nations it has decent relations with in the region is Armenia, most of her other neighbors hate her for supporting fundamentalists in the region.
    Quote Originally Posted by pharaoh01275 View Post
    Iran would pursade other arab contries to attck them and Israel would be annexed and the US would do nothing because Israel would be deemed the agressor
    How many times do I have to say this? Iran isn't particulary liked by any of their neighbors, just by some fundamentalist groups that receive their support.
    Quote Originally Posted by Amagi View Post
    The Israeli Defense Force is a bunch of cowardish gangsters.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hDAHEjKCuM

    Running, throwing white phosphorus on defenseless civilians, artillery versus villages, beating up of old people, using children as human shields, defecating of cultural/religious sites...
    Israel hasnt got the guts to face a nation such as Iran, but will send their slave state USA to do the job.

    Possible outcome:

    I hope the apartheid state will be turned into a large glass plate, by russian nukes (for Iran doesn´t develop any nukes.)

    I hope the palestinians get evacuated just in time, so the stage is ready to obliterate that festering boil on the ss of humanity once and for all.

    Cheers and take it easy.
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    I was going to comment on the sheer stupidity and xenophobia of this post, then I remembered it was posted by a Neo-Nazi and holocaust denier who is responsible for some of the most idiotic threads ever made on this forum.
    Quote Originally Posted by 6644kp View Post
    Iran is not occupying an entire people and ignoring countless UN resolutions. Acting like a rough state and killing civilians on mass and assasinating persons on foreign soil.
    No, instead it's government crushes any opposition it has to from democratic groups, supports fundamentalist groups in other countries and violates human rights every day. And Iran does indeed act like a 'rough state'.

    Israel has no policy of actively trying to kill Palestinians and is not killing civilians on purpose, it's called collateral damage, there's a lot to be said of it but your claim is simply wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by That Dutch guy View Post
    No, instead it's government crushes any opposition it has to from democratic groups, supports fundamentalist groups in other countries and violates human rights every day. And Iran does indeed act like a 'rough state'.
    Very good description of Israel indeed, could´nt have done it better.
    P.S.:You mean "rogue- state".
    Quote Originally Posted by That Dutch guy View Post
    Israel has no policy of actively trying to kill Palestinians and is not killing civilians on purpose, it's called collateral damage, there's a lot to be said of it but your claim is simply wrong.
    The hypocricy of your ilk never ceases to amaze me.

    In a whole, your response is as flat as the netherlands, but that´s a general problem with responses of yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amagi View Post
    Very good description of Israel indeed, could´nt have done it better.
    P.S.:You mean "rogue- state".
    Except that it has absolutely no relevance to Israel whatever.

    P.S. I did mean rogue state, but saying it like this: 'rough state' means I'm mocking him, being the least bit subtle about it, but as your response is as blunt and idiotic as possible it doesn't surprise me that you don't understand the concept.
    The hypocricy of your ilk never ceases to amaze me.
    My ilk? Hypocrisy? Care to clarify on that or are you happy with baseless insults and vague accusations?
    In a whole, your response is as flat as the netherlands, but that´s a general problem with responses of yours.
    I could behave like you do but I don't feel like putting up 15 a4's worth of baseless accusations, stuff basically copied from Neo-Nazi sites, xenophobia and bigotry without actually doing any research myself or bothering to check for any reliable claims to back mine up.

    How exactly is my response flat? Making baseless accusations of apartheid and calling for genocide is sophisticated now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by That Dutch guy View Post
    Israel has no policy of actively trying to kill Palestinians and is not killing civilians on purpose, it's called collateral damage, there's a lot to be said of it but your claim is simply wrong.
    Collateral damage eh? I suppose then its ok to kill civilians as long as you didnt do it on purpose.
    Oops I fired my artillery gun accidentally at that school its ok though since its collateral damage. yeah that will really comfort the families of the fallen.

    Also stop saying hezbollah and Hamas do the same. When you kill 100 times more people in "accidents" that deliberate action and you say they are just as evil as us or even more becasue they want to kill, we just kill accidently its pointless.

    Who is worse someone who just mowed down 50 people cos he tried to get the one murderer behind the crowd and the only reason he is a murdered is becasue his grandfather was moved out in force by you his brother killed and his family forced into humiliation.

    He killed one of you sure, deliberity but only after you took everything from and then killed 50 more of his people and then you say oh its an accident I just wanted accualty kill you because you are still resisting.

    If you think SA was evil and needed to fall Israel is far more evil and needs to fall even harder.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 6644kp View Post
    Collateral damage eh? I suppose then its ok to kill civilians as long as you didnt do it on purpose.
    Oops I fired my artillery gun accidentally at that school its ok though since its collateral damage. yeah that will really comfort the families of the fallen.

    Also stop saying hezbollah and Hamas do the same. When you kill 100 times more people in "accidents" that deliberate action and you say they are just as evil as us or even more becasue they want to kill, we just kill accidently its pointless.

    Who is worse someone who just mowed down 50 people cos he tried to get the one murderer behind the crowd and the only reason he is a murdered is becasue his grandfather was moved out in force by you his brother killed and his family forced into humiliation.

    He killed one of you sure, deliberity but only after you took everything from and then killed 50 more of his people and then you say oh its an accident I just wanted accualty kill you because you are still resisting.

    If you think SA was evil and needed to fall Israel is far more evil and needs to fall even harder.
    When terrorists are shooting rockets and hiding weapons in schools - Israel has a duty to destroy it.
    Hamas and Hizbollah shoot rockets in an attempt to kill as many Jews as possible - the more the merrier. Israel destroy Hamas and Hizbollah terrorists who are shooting at their citizens from the rooftops of civillian buildings, and Israel then takes the trouble to phone the civillians and drop notes from planes telling them to watch out, then kill the terrorist. Your second and third paragraphs are incomprihendible - so no comment.
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    The mustached and long-tusked walrus is most often found near the Arctic Circle, lying on the ice with hundreds of companions. These marine mammals are extremely sociable, prone to loudly bellowing and snorting at one another, but are aggressive during mating season. With wrinkled brown and pink hides, walruses are distinguished by their long white tusks, grizzly whiskers, flat flipper, and bodies full of blubber.
    Walruses use their iconic long tusks for a variety of reasons, each of which makes their lives in the Arctic a bit easier. They use them to haul their enormous bodies out of frigid waters, thus their "tooth-walking" label, and to break breathing holes into ice from below. Their tusks, which are found on both males and females, can extend to about three feet (one meter), and are, in fact, large canine teeth, which grow throughout their lives. Male walruses, or bulls, also employ their tusks aggressively to maintain territory and, during mating season, to protect their harems of females, or cows.
    The walrus' other characteristic features are equally useful. As their favorite meals, particularly shellfish, are found near the dark ocean floor, walruses use their extremely sensitive whiskers, called mustacial vibrissae, as detection devices. Their blubbery bodies allow them to live comfortably in the Arctic region—walruses are capable of slowing their heartbeats in order to withstand the polar temperatures of the surrounding waters.
    The two subspecies of walrus are divided geographically. Atlantic walruses inhabit coastal areas from northeastern Canada to Greenland, while Pacific walruses inhabit the northern seas off Russia and Alaska, migrating seasonally from their southern range in the Bering Sea—where they are found on the pack ice in winter—to the Chukchi Sea. Female Pacific walruses give birth to calves during the spring migration north.
    Only Native Americans are currently allowed to hunt walruses, as the species' survival was threatened by past overhunting. Their tusks, oil, skin, and meat were so sought after in the 18th and 19th centuries that the walrus was hunted to extinction in the Gulf of St. Lawrence and around Sable Island, off the coast of Nova Scotia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodguy1066 View Post
    When terrorists are shooting rockets and hiding weapons in schools - Israel has a duty to destroy it.
    Hamas and Hizbollah shoot rockets in an attempt to kill as many Jews as possible - the more the merrier. Israel destroy Hamas and Hizbollah terrorists who are shooting at their citizens from the rooftops of civillian buildings, and Israel then takes the trouble to phone the civillians and drop notes from planes telling them to watch out, then kill the terrorist. Your second and third paragraphs are incomprihendible - so no comment.
    Incomprehendable? No, merely human motivations, rather like the considerations that made Zionists so anxious to establish the Jewish State. The irony of the thing is that in doing so they wronged the Arabs, and so poisoned the new country from its very beginning.
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