View Poll Results: Who should be kicked out of the EU?

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  • Austria

    14 13.86%
  • Belgium

    13 12.87%
  • Bulgaria

    32 31.68%
  • Cyprus

    25 24.75%
  • Czech Republic

    15 14.85%
  • Denmark

    13 12.87%
  • Estonia

    25 24.75%
  • Finland

    12 11.88%
  • France

    15 14.85%
  • Germany

    17 16.83%
  • Greece

    36 35.64%
  • Hungary

    15 14.85%
  • Ireland

    17 16.83%
  • Italy

    18 17.82%
  • Latvia

    25 24.75%
  • Lithuania

    23 22.77%
  • Luxembourg

    15 14.85%
  • Malta

    14 13.86%
  • Netherlands

    17 16.83%
  • Poland

    25 24.75%
  • Portugal

    19 18.81%
  • Romania

    43 42.57%
  • Slovakia

    17 16.83%
  • Slovenia

    18 17.82%
  • Spain

    14 13.86%
  • Sweden

    14 13.86%
  • United Kingdom

    40 39.60%
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    Il-Principe's Avatar Ordinarius
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    Default Who should leave the EU?

    The EU is an economic and political organization, which grew exorbitantly over the last decades. Currently we have 27 member states and three countries are on enlargement row: Croatia, Macedonia and Turkey. It is to be expected that the EU will continue to grow until she encompasses at least whole Europe and North Africa. Now this might be a natural development for the EU administration, but I fear that the larger the EU is going to become, the larger the problems will be. An oversized EU could in many ways resemble a mini-UNO: Nice in theory, but ungovernable in practice. Therefore I believe that instead of admitting new members, the EU should start to fire some members. I'd love to see a lean, successful and efficient EU. There are certain EU members, who don't contribute anything else to Europe than sucking money and constantly insulting us.

    Here's a graph about,who pays and who benefits most from the EU (net contribution 2007 in billion €):



    Here's the same from 2010. It's in German, but I'm sure, you'll figure out, who's who in that graphic:



    Left are takers, right are givers.
    You can see that Greece and Poland are probably very happy about constant EU aid.


    Here I found a nice graphic about the EU budget 2007-13. Blue countries are takers, red and purple ones givers. The larger a country is shown on the map, the more they pay/ receive per capita.





    So who should be kicked out?


    Poll is added. You can vote multiple times. I hope for a tough, but still fair discussion.


    Edit:

    Here's a graph net by population. It shows, how much Europeans countries pay/receive per capita. By far Greece sucks most money per capita.

    Last edited by Il-Principe; April 05, 2010 at 08:13 AM.

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    Default Re: Who should leave the EU?

    No one?

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    Default Re: Who should leave the EU?

    Well not us; we'd have nothing to complain about. Probably Luxembourg, as you should always pick on the quiet ones if you need to make an example to others. Less chance of resistance.
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    Default Re: Who should leave the EU?

    Quote Originally Posted by Il-Principe View Post

    HEY! did you just make this up youslef

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    Default Re: Who should leave the EU?

    Yes, the "no one" option is missing. Its quite ok as it is. Who knows, maybe in 250 years Greece will be a giver and Germany a taker...
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    Default Re: Who should leave the EU?

    Quote Originally Posted by philipOhayda View Post
    HEY! did you just make this up youslef


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    Default Re: Who should leave the EU?

    Quote Originally Posted by philipOhayda View Post
    HEY! did you just make this up youslef
    No, I took it from the wiki EU budget site.

    Quote Originally Posted by Romanos IV View Post
    No one and everyone options are missing; therefore the poll is fail.
    It's easy; just select either no one or everyone in your vote.


    Actually I question the very philosophy of the EU. The EU is geared towards expansion and unlimited growth. I'd like to see that process reversed and instead dispensable members should be kicked out once in a while. I read somewhere that Germany alone pays more than 19 EU members combined. This just can't be right. In ancient Athens there was a procedure called ostracism. Once a year all citizens voted, what member of community should be banned for ten years. We should have a similar mechanism in the EU.

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    Default Re: Who should leave the EU?

    I don't know how I will vote. I oppose the formation of the USE so prehaps we should kick ourselfs out?

    Anyway everything in the green, possibly except malta and slovenia.
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    Default Re: Who should leave the EU?

    I chose, that the UK should leave (It will be better in the long run!)

    I would also say Greece because for them to join the EUSSR they had to cripple there economy to pay for the Joining fees!

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    Default Re: Who should leave the EU?

    Romania and Bulgaria, until they straighten out their human rights and corruption issues.

    I think the EU throws enough money it will never get back into Africa, without throwing it at corrupt politicians.

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    Default Re: Who should leave the EU?

    Joining fees?

    Greece and paying? LOL!
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    Default Re: Who should leave the EU?

    None.

    Rather it needs some serious reform of EU contributions. Whilst the Big Three (Germany, France and UK) are rich the proportional percentage they pay into the Eu is just obscene in comparison to others. For example does Poland and Spain really need that much aid (presently i'd argued they do due to the effects of the recession) during a period of economic growth? (I'm referring to the 2007 graphs)
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    Default Re: Who should leave the EU?

    Picked the Netherlands to make my Dutch socialist brothers Erik, Croccer and IPA happy.

    But in seriousness: no one. The damage is done and turning our back is not an option.
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    Default Re: Who should leave the EU?

    lol @ all the votes for UK

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    Default Re: Who should leave the EU?

    UK
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    Default Re: Who should leave the EU?

    How could Spain be a leech? Isnt it supposed to be richer than say Bulgaria?


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    Default Re: Who should leave the EU?

    You should all join the USA....our government loves to bailout colossal failures.

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    Default Re: Who should leave the EU?

    ^Where can we sign up? We'd all rape you till exhaustion.
    Quote Originally Posted by snuggans View Post
    we can safely say that a % of those 130 were Houthi/Iranian militants that needed to be stopped unfortunately

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    Icon1 Re: Who should leave the EU?

    Is Iceland in the EU? If so, they should leave, the rotten, fish-stealing rogue state that they are!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fishman View Post
    Is Iceland in the EU? If so, they should leave, the rotten, fish-stealing rogue state that they are!
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