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    I have been wondering for a while, what makes America so attractive, now some may say that it is only attractive to the people mentionned on the Statue of Liberty?
    Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!


    No, it also attracts the worlds brains, the elite, if you so wish, having a brain drain effect that it has had since the end of World War II when the German scientists moved to America.
    It is no longer the only beacon of freedom in the world, so why move there?
    The american dream, is it still as strong as in the 19th century when it attracted the European masses?
    Especially when you consider the mounting risks that it is facing, especially debt wise, is it becomming China's puppet? Is there a way for America to release the bonds that it has created for itself?

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    How is America becoming China's puppet?
    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP226 View Post
    How is America becoming China's puppet?
    the tens of trillions of dollars of debt towards china? I mean, they arent their puppet right now but if china starts flexing its muscles you guys could be in for a treat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkarin View Post
    the tens of trillions of dollars of debt towards china? I mean, they arent their puppet right now but if china starts flexing its muscles you guys could be in for a treat.
    China is just as dependent on the US as the US is on them. Much of their growth is thanks to the trade deficit that we allow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkarin View Post
    the tens of trillions of dollars of debt towards china? I mean, they arent their puppet right now but if china starts flexing its muscles you guys could be in for a treat.
    How about the 300 billion all in all from the deeply in trouble UK?
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    You mean the same Germany who is the most diverse European country?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany
    This Germany?
    Yeah, just recently there was even a political debate if we should official call the country "an immigration-nation just like the US or Oz" for whatever reason.

    And then comparing to Japan who'd rather pillow-marry their country to death than actually getting some immigrants aboard to battle their low birth-rates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkarin View Post
    the tens of trillions of dollars of debt towards china? I mean, they arent their puppet right now but if china starts flexing its muscles you guys could be in for a treat.
    If only debt worked that way. China gives american paper, we take that paper spend it do our thing and then buy junk from china. They send us more paper and we buy more junk from china. Who's really winning under those circumstances? We're like a tar baby.
    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkarin View Post
    the tens of trillions of dollars of debt towards china? I mean, they arent their puppet right now but if china starts flexing its muscles you guys could be in for a treat.
    If by tens of trillions you mean 889 billion, then yes we owe the Chinese slightly more than Japan (765 billion).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotspur View Post
    If by tens of trillions you mean 889 billion, then yes we owe the Chinese slightly more than Japan (765 billion).
    sorry, i meant to but billion >.<
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zadig View Post
    No, it also attracts the worlds brains, the elite, if you so wish, having a brain drain effect that it has had since the end of World War II when the German scientists moved to America.
    It is no longer the only beacon of freedom in the world, so why move there?
    I'm from Flanders, Belgium. But my brother now lives in the US. He was a brilliant student. It was his opinion that the possibilities for academic research were much better in the US than in Europe. So he moved across the pond and got his doctorate at Berkeley. He has been a professor at MIT for fifteen years now.

    I guess that in some areas the US still offers better opportunities than other places in the world, even Europe.

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    Deep fried Mars bars:

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    Deep fried Mars bars:

    A British creation I think you will find
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azog 150 View Post
    A British creation I think you will find
    Seriously? Shame on us.
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    Got them in Scotland and Australia, and there more of a delicacy over there.
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    NYC /
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogukan View Post
    NYC /
    Is it anywhere near berlin is awsomeness?
    And no not judged by who has the tallest buildings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ♔IPA35♔ View Post
    Is it anywhere near berlin is awsomeness?
    And no not judged by who has the tallest buildings.
    It has far more variety than Berlin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevins View Post
    It has far more variety than Berlin.
    You mean, like more ghetto's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ♔IPA35♔ View Post
    You mean, like more ghetto's?
    Nah, its just that Berlin is very much a German city, while New York is a fusion of countless distinct cultures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ♔IPA35♔ View Post
    You mean, like more ghetto's?
    good lordy, American cities aren't all dirty streets and ghettos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ♔IPA35♔ View Post
    You mean, like more ghetto's?
    please, i heard from a few germans that berlin is a boring place to be; or at least causes severe depression. and the southern parts of germany is all farmland, the east is possibly the worst and full of Nazis and old poor people, the only good places are Frankfurt, Stuttgart, Cologne, Düsseldorf...
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