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    Default UK Politics most corrupt in the Western World?

    Or just run of the mill democracy?

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7079209.ece

    It could be that there is a simple fix to the latest money and politics scandal. Simply ban MP's from second jobs. Do you think this would fix the problem?

    Either way this highlights that at the moment the tax payer doesn't stand a chance, our views are second to whoever is willing to line an MP's pocket. Some freedom, some democracy and some representation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane! View Post
    UK Politics most corrupt in the Western World?
    i heard Brazil was pretty corrupt. maybe even more so. maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyar Son View Post
    i heard Brazil was pretty corrupt. maybe even more so. maybe.
    Maybe?

    They don't arrest British MPs trying to get out of the capital city with hundreds of dollars hidden in their underwear.

    So, yeah, Brazil gets that trophy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodguy1066 View Post
    Then again, can Brazil be counted as a "western world country"?
    If you're west of israel, yes.
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    Maybe?

    They don't arrest British MPs trying to get out of the capital city with hundreds of dollars hidden in their underwear.

    So, yeah, Brazil gets that trophy.
    Yea maybe i guess, hearing about the "mensalao" a long time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyar Son View Post
    i heard Brazil was pretty corrupt. maybe even more so. maybe.
    Brazil is definitely more corrupt but they are generally not considered "Western World' no?

    Oh this has been discussed. I think generally when speak of the "West" they refer mostly to first world, liberal states, latin america even Brazil is still somewhat a "developing second world nation" even if they are not considered "third world".
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    Quote Originally Posted by chilon View Post

    even Brazil is still somewhat a "developing second world nation"
    going around some of their cities, i think many parts are first world. it's just as any nation they just need money and less corrupt government/better government. Brazil has such a large potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chilon View Post
    I think generally when speak of the "West" they refer mostly to first world, liberal states...
    Japan is a first world, liberal state, but it's not part of the western world as the culture is entirely diffrent! Not every first world democracy is western...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyar Son View Post
    i heard Brazil was pretty corrupt. maybe even more so. maybe.

    Not exactly 'Western' though is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord de Lyonesse View Post
    Not exactly 'Western' though is it?
    It is.

    Try to explain me this: If England is Western and the US is Western, what's the point in Portugal being Western and Brazil not being Western?

    I mean... Brazil's culture is mainly a mixture between the Portuguese, Italian, Spanish, Pole and African culture. Isn't the US pretty much the same thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duberdicus View Post
    It is.

    Try to explain me this: If England is Western and the US is Western, what's the point in Portugal being Western and Brazil not being Western?

    I mean... Brazil's culture is mainly a mixture between the Portuguese, Italian, Spanish, Pole and African culture. Isn't the US pretty much the same thing?

    Western usually connotes the countries in the west, France, UK, Germany, Italy etc.. America and Canada are usually included too as they have heritages connecting them to Britain or the 'West' Brazil is poor and as of thus is refered to as a Less Economically Developed state. Most people would just say Latin though, as most countries within Latin America are unfourtunatly quite poor and some even corrupt, Colombia being a good example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane! View Post
    Or just run of the mill democracy?

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7079209.ece

    It could be that there is a simple fix to the latest money and politics scandal. Simply ban MP's from second jobs. Do you think this would fix the problem?

    Either way this highlights that at the moment the tax payer doesn't stand a chance, our views are second to whoever is willing to line an MP's pocket. Some freedom, some democracy and some representation
    Most corrupt? Are you joking? Just look at France and what some presidents get up to while they're immune to prosecution.

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    I see your France and raise you Italy.
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    I fold.

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    I wonder what those maps looked like before the expenses scandal broke.

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    those sources are ridiculously biased. Notice how all the People America Doesn't like happen to be the most corrupt?
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    Um...isn't Italy considered part of the Western world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane! View Post
    Or just run of the mill democracy?

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7079209.ece

    It could be that there is a simple fix to the latest money and politics scandal. Simply ban MP's from second jobs. Do you think this would fix the problem?

    Either way this highlights that at the moment the tax payer doesn't stand a chance, our views are second to whoever is willing to line an MP's pocket. Some freedom, some democracy and some representation
    Some of the least corrupt. In France MPs expenses are completely secret, and far larger. In America their lobbying operation makes our cabs for hire look like rickshaws. In Italy sex is good currency for political office.

    Compare all this to out MPs - poor, regulated, boring, grey and ugly. It's a pretty good set up.

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    Hang all MPs?
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    Its obviously not a good situation- but compared to some other places (I am looking at Italy) its certainly not the worst.
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