dismount?????

**FOR GONDOR** · March 27, 2010, 04:49 PM

ok, im really curious can you dismount bodygaurds, well not in battle but can you have it so generals are dismounted instead of mounted, i ould really like tat becuse some battles i dont like mounted units, (terrain in the misty mountains

) and i like to have all infintry fights there so hw do you make it so badygaurds are dsmounted with the general, and the oppisite, (sindar archers + munted =

) and im sure some peple would want to know this also

**Seleukos_I.** · March 27, 2010, 04:56 PM

You can have infantry bodyguards (Silvan Elves, Dale, Dwarves, Orcs), but you can't decide in battle if you want to dismount them or not.

**eugenioso** · March 27, 2010, 05:15 PM

and yet another reason why the original MTW is better!

in there you could right click before battle to dismount knights, giving you knights.

at least MTW portrayed it properly, because you couldnt just recruit foot knights, instead you got the men at arms, but you could recruit heavy cavalry, and then dismount them. the problem was that they were few in number, and AFAIK, they couldnt mount back up

**confused german** · March 27, 2010, 05:29 PM

Hello and welcome to the 'build your own heros today'-fanblock!

I add some links that can help you:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=321863
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=78236
http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showth...-for-beginners

Sadly it's not just like 'push this button and they'll mount/dismount' like in med1, you have to work yourself into stuff, but it's something that can be done even for no-modders, I think.
I myself once made the attempt of trying to mount the sindar archers, but didn't come further than have them hover one meter above their fast ponies - just a short try. Afterwards I thought there'll be the problem to find a skeleton that holds a two handed melee weapon and rides a horse. Anyways.
If you achieve something, please tell, I'd be interested.
Good luck!

**FOR GONDOR** · March 27, 2010, 05:30 PM

i mean before battle, is it possible to bring it back or even do it

**Ellin Athinaios** · March 27, 2010, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by FOR GONDOR

i mean before battle, is it possible to bring it back or even do it

No.

**confused german** · March 27, 2010, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by FOR GONDOR

i mean before battle, is it possible to bring it back or even do it

Ah, okay... no, everybody says no, also I'm very sad about it, too.

**Timotheus** · March 28, 2010, 04:41 AM

Uh, this ability of dismounting and mount bodyguards should exist. It should improve gameplay much
Everyone modders, inclusive you KK make it work!!

**Smaug** · March 28, 2010, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by Timotheus

Uh, this ability of dismounting and mount bodyguards should exist. It should improve gameplay much
Everyone modders, inclusive you KK make it work!!

Impossible in MTW2.

**JorisofHolland** · March 28, 2010, 09:35 AM

Even a very complicated script can't make this work.

If only it would be possible to remove units by scripting and someone could fix the unknown name problem it all could be done.

**confused german** · March 29, 2010, 01:05 PM

Does "unknown name problem" refer to the fact, that you can't predict the name of the general leading the army, but need it for the script?

**JorisofHolland** · March 30, 2010, 06:48 AM

Yes.

**Vaz** · March 30, 2010, 10:09 AM

Not before battle. But I suppose you could have a script trigger when a named character goes into a settlement if you want them to dismount or not. However, that would mean losing all experience gained, etc.

**confused german** · March 30, 2010, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by Vaz

Not before battle. But I suppose you could have a script trigger when a named character goes into a settlement if you want them to dismount or not. However, that would mean losing all experience gained, etc.

Okay, I may get it: if character in settlement -> remove from map (don't remember the exact command now) -> spawn army: same character (in the way he started) with mounted/dismounted bodyguard
If it was something like this - could you do it several times with one character? (Like: mount - dismount - mount again?)
Plus wouldn't you need a very long script including all names possible for all factions in all settlements?
Greetings

.

P.S.: Just trying to learn a little about scripting...

**Tyre** · March 30, 2010, 03:09 PM

Just make an alternate export_descr_unit with dismounted bodyguards and switch files when you want them to dismount.

**confused german** · March 30, 2010, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by Tyre

Just make an alternate export_descr_unit with dismounted bodyguards and switch files when you want them to dismount.

Ha, that's good! Simple & smart!
I'll rep as soon I tried it out.

**JorisofHolland** · March 31, 2010, 06:01 AM

It won't work just before a battle, I think. Because the bodyguard your generals have is a part of the save game, not of the game files anymore. Newly born (coming of age, actually) will be dismounted, but not the 'old' characters.

Originally Posted by Vaz

Not before battle. But I suppose you could have a script trigger when a named character goes into a settlement if you want them to dismount or not. However, that would mean losing all experience gained, etc.

And all traits gained, ancillaries, number of men.

Originally Posted by boring german

Okay, I may get it: if character in settlement -> remove from map (don't remember the exact command now) -> spawn army: same character (in the way he started) with mounted/dismounted bodyguard
If it was something like this - could you do it several times with one character? (Like: mount - dismount - mount again?)
Plus wouldn't you need a very long script including all names possible for all factions in all settlements?
Greetings

.

P.S.: Just trying to learn a little about scripting...

Won't work, you'll need a name to remove characters from the map. And the massive amount of scrips required would slow down AI turns.