weathertop mod help :)

[Hero of the West]

Hello people,

I'm currently trying to implement weathertop.. and i'm making progress.. i started on implementing the event movie.. i'm almost done with this however i came across a problem regarding the scripting

i see this code: 91 243 5 10 , i know the first 2 are the coordinates but what are the last 2? this is about the campaign script

another question i have is the fact that with bin editor i can't convert the word historic event file to a txt string.. does anyone has a solution for this?

i know many of the tutorials but these are not sufficient for the answers as far as i know..

thanks in advance and i hope someone can help me with this i'll keep on trying

[Aikanár]

i see this code: 91 243 5 10

It would make it quite easier to answer your question, if you would tell us of which file you're speaking
descr_regions.txt?

another question i have is the fact that with bin editor i can't convert the word historic event file to a txt string.. does anyone has a solution for this?

You don't have to convert txt files back to txt.string files.

[Hero of the West]

It would make it quite easier to answer your question, if you would tell us of which file you're speaking
descr_regions.txt?


You don't have to convert txt files back to txt.string files.

ow off course stupid of me.. i was talking about the campaign_script.. here i'm implementing the reach_weathertop event

ow why is there a historic_event file and a historic_event.txt.strings file then? i didn't convert them at all.. i had both already so i wondered where the thx.strings was for?

thx for your quick response

[Hero of the West]

i now believe these 2 numbers to be the size of the area.. is this correct?

[Aikanár]

ow off course stupid of me.. i was talking about the campaign_script.. here i'm implementing the reach_weathertop event

ow why is there a historic_event file and a historic_event.txt.strings file then? i didn't convert them at all.. i had both already so i wondered where the thx.strings was for?

thx for your quick response

The .strings.bin are used as a spreadsheet, but actually not needed if you have set your .cfg file to
[io]
file_first = true

i now believe these 2 numbers to be the size of the area.. is this correct?

I see, I suggest you download and use the M2TW Ultimate Docudemons 4.0
It definitely is a must have for every scripter

Identifier: IsPositionInRect
Trigger requirements: sm_position
Parameters: left top [width height]
Sample use: IsPositionInRect 5 10 40 140
Description: Test is a tile in specified rectangular area?
Battle or Strat: Strat
Class: IS_POSITION_IN_RECT

[Hero of the West]

The .strings.bin are used as a spreadsheet, but actually not needed if you have set your .cfg file to
io file first



I see, I suggest you download and use the M2TW Ultimate Docudemons 4.0
It definitely is a must have for every scripter

Identifier: IsPositionInRect
Trigger requirements: sm_position
Parameters: left top [width height]
Sample use: IsPositionInRect 5 10 40 140
Description: Test is a tile in specified rectangular area?
Battle or Strat: Strat
Class: IS_POSITION_IN_RECT

all right i got the first part.. for the second part i really don't get it.. i have this so far.. it's copied and adjusted from the shire.. so i think i have done it right so far :

monitor_event TileSeen not FactionType turks
and FactionIsLocal
and IsPositionInRect 140 242 1 1
historic_event reached_weathertop event/reached_weathertop.bik
terminate_monitor
end_monitor

the 140 and 242 are the coordinates.. but the 1 & 1 i don't know.. those are the width and height i guess?

[Aikanár]

Yep they are. So the monitor is actually correct -if you used tab not spaces- but I do not know if the width and height are set correct with "1 1".

[Hero of the West]

Yep they are. So the monitor is actually correct -if you used tab not spaces- but I do not know if the width and height are set correct with "1 1".

it's a single tower.. the shire was 5 by 10.. so i figured it to be much smaller.. i don't exactly know how it works.. maybe it's to exact?

[Aikanár]

Just check it ingame. Place the cursor above your chosen tile, open the console and type "show_cursorstat" without quotation marks.

[Hero of the West]

Just check it ingame. Place the cursor above your chosen tile, open the console and type "show_cursorstat" without quotation marks.

i had a copied map with the original tatw files.. however the batch files leads to my installed frome mod? what did i do wrong?

sorry if i'm a bit of a noob.. this is my first attempt..

you will defintely be repped for this

[Aikanár]

Just open your Third_Age.bat and change it to:

Third_Age.bat

cd ..\..
start kingdoms.exe @mods\Name_of_your_folder\TATW.cfg

Then open your TATW.cfg and change it to:

TATW.cfg

TATW.cfg
editor = true
mod = mods/Name_of_your_folder

[io]
file_first = true

[log]
to = logs/system.log.Name_of_your_submod.txt
level = * trace
;level = * error

[Hero of the West]

hmm ok the game starts.. i opened a new game.. didn't know how to open command so i just walk with elrond.. when i get near.. i get a unspecified error and the game quits.. something is wrong..

don't get it though i made:

- weatherop reached bik > tempory renamed the lothlorien one and pasted it in the FMV map
- changed the script as showed above just pasted that text into it and put the script in the correct folder
- changed the historic events file with these lines ..
{REACHED_WEATHERTOP_BODY}Weathertop.. Once the great watchtower of Amon Sul, now a remnant of the second age and the lost kingdom of Arnor. Although it's glory is long gone, it's foundations remained through the ages. It is said that the tower of Amon Sul contained the strongest of the seven palantíri with which Gondor could be contacted in times of need. After many battles over the watchtower of Amon Sul it was finally burned down by the dark forces of Angmar in the year 1409 of the third age..
{REACHED_wEATHERTOP_TITLE}The Weathertop Reached

do you have any idea?

[Aikanár]

hmm ok the game starts.. i opened a new game.. didn't know how to open command so i just walk with elrond..

Just hit ~ key in the english version or open your setting, keyboard settings and check for it.
Then hit it, type "toggle_fow" (reveals the map) then do as described above.

when i get near.. i get a unspecified error and the game quits.. something is wrong..

don't get it though i made:

- weatherop reached bik > tempory renamed the lothlorien one and pasted it in the FMV map
- changed the script as showed above just pasted that text into it and put the script in the correct folder
- changed the historic events file with these lines ..
{REACHED_WEATHERTOP_BODY}Weathertop.. Once the great watchtower of Amon Sul, now a remnant of the second age and the lost kingdom of Arnor. Although it's glory is long gone, it's foundations remained through the ages. It is said that the tower of Amon Sul contained the strongest of the seven palantíri with which Gondor could be contacted in times of need. After many battles over the watchtower of Amon Sul it was finally burned down by the dark forces of Angmar in the year 1409 of the third age..
{REACHED_wEATHERTOP_TITLE}The Weathertop Reached

do you have any idea?

Please .rar or .zip -or whatever compressing-program you might use- your system.log and attach it to your post, so I can have a look at the error code.

[Hero of the West]

Just hit ~ key in the english version or open your setting, keyboard settings and check for it.
Then hit it, type "toggle_fow" (reveals the map) then do as described above.



Please .rar or .zip -or whatever compressing-program you might use- your system.log and attach it to your post, so I can have a look at the error code.

i figured the toggle out just before you posted.. i changed the coordinates already in the orignally modded file cause i was a bit of the lore placement of weathertop.. but that's not important now..

while changing the data to make the game work.. i wasn't aloud to change the site of the log.text.. i managed however to find the following 2 in my appl. data medieval folder.. Attachment 81069

Attachment 81070

[Aikanár]

Uhm, have you edited the TATW.cfg the way described above? Of course it shows that you've set it on trace, but it is very short for a logfile set on trace, extremely short so to say

[Hero of the West]

yes i did but my windows 7 causes some known problems with placing files.. so are my saves not in the medieval folder but under my appl. user folder..

i'll post here tomorrow when i have tried all of this again.. now i really need to sleep cause i need to work tommorrow.. first thing i'll do is try to redo my steps.. then i'll send a log if possible really weird that my com can't find any

thanks for all your help so far and i'll hope to speak to you soon

[Aikanár]

You found it, it was the system.log.txt you posted, but it was rather short for a log set on trace.
Usually a log set on trace is around 12-14 mb of uncompressed text. Compressed it's much smaller of course.
Since you're using windows7 its totally normal that it is saved in users\username\appdata\local\virtualstore\medieval 2 total war or something like this, the same with vistax64 btw... so don't worry about this
Have a good night

[Hero of the West]

heeey aikanär.. whas the log usefull.. i thought the timeframe whas wrong.. so i thought it was the wrong one or the error was missed..

i'll send you what i have so far to show you.. note that the bik file is a words file in my sended data.. this is only for a quick send.. overhere i copied the elven movie and renamed that one properly..

Attachment 81095

hope you can see something that's wrong in it.. as far as i know it's all correct.. i'm just not sure about those 2 numbers..

grtz patrician

[Aikanár]

heeey aikanär.. whas the log usefull.. i thought the timeframe whas wrong.. so i thought it was the wrong one or the error was missed..

i'll send you what i have so far to show you.. note that the bik file is a words file in my sended data.. this is only for a quick send.. overhere i copied the elven movie and renamed that one properly..

Attachment 81095

hope you can see something that's wrong in it.. as far as i know it's all correct.. i'm just not sure about those 2 numbers..

grtz patrician

I'm at work atm. so I can't have a look at it.
The logfile was right, but it was not it's full lenght, to solve the problem your full logfile will be very helpful.
In the meanwhile, please use a clean copy of TA:TW and find out about the precise coordinate, height and widht by doing as described above using toggle_fow and show_cursorstat.

[Hero of the West]

I'm at work atm. so I can't have a look at it.
The logfile was right, but it was not it's full lenght, to solve the problem your full logfile will be very helpful.
In the meanwhile, please use a clean copy of TA:TW and find out about the precise coordinate, height and widht by doing as described above using toggle_fow and show_cursorstat.

how do i get a full logfile then if i may ask? this was all i had

i found the correct coordinates yesterday and they are stated in the version i send you.. i pinpoint them with looking for a loresuggested spot (maps indicate different places around weahtherhills) but i don't know how to pinpoint the exact hight/width.. those last 2 numbers again .. cursor stat just says the 2 coordinates and the region number

i'm a work also and look into it later again