How to add an Empire Total War unit in Napoleon Total War

[maxsim666]

How to add an Empire Total War unit in Napoleon Total War

First of all you have to open the pack file with your unit with PFManager
Then export tables related to your unit:
Battle_personalities_table
Building_units_allowed_table
unit_required_technology_junctions
unit_to_unit_abilities_junctions
units_to_exclusive_faction_permissions
units_to_gov_type_permissions
units_to_groupings_military_permissions
warscape_animated_lod
warscape_animated
then you have to export also mesh and texture files related to your units;
they are in
unitmodels mesh files
unitmodels/texture texture files
last step is export from Napoleon data.pack
Battle_personalities_table
Building_units_allowed_table
unit_stats_land
units
once made as above you have to create your new mod in PFManager
do not forget to change pack type from release to mod
then import:
Battle_personalities_table both the ones from NTW and the ones from OLD ETW MOD
Building_units_allowed_table boththe ones from NTW and the ones from OLD ETW MOD
unit_required_technology_junctions
unit_to_unit_abilities_junctions
units_to_exclusive_faction_permissions
units_to_gov_type_permissions
units_to_groupings_military_permissions
warscape_animated_lod
warscape_animated
unitmodels mesh files
unitmodels/texture texture files
and
Napoleon data.pack unit_stats_land
Napoleon data.pack units
Ok now save it all and name it as you wish, hint, give it prefix MOD, (MOD_my_mod.pack)
Done this rename all the tables with a prefix you wish, as
MyMod_ units_to_gov_type_permissions
MyMod_ units_to_exclusive_faction_permissions
MyMod_ Building_units_allowed_table
And so on.
After that delete all row in each table not needed by your unit.
For Napoleon data.pack unit_stats_land table and units table you have no row about your unit of course.
In these tables you must delete all rows except the one about a unit similar to the one you want to import.
If you want to import a grenadiers unit leave a grenadier unit row.
Now with old ETW PFManager open in your old ETW mod including your unit, these tables:
unit_stats_land
units
copy in each table the row about your unit and paste it in same named table of your new mod for Napoleon Total War
look for each cell if there is any value entry missed or changed and correct it.
Next step is to import or open in another istance of PFManager Nappy’s Battle_personalities_table and look for personalities present in your new unit_stats_land row.
In Empire TW surely lacks flutist and some euro_ prefixed personalities are now prefixed generic_
Updated euro prefixed personalities and add flutist, correct eruo_standard_bearer warscape equipmentcell with generic_standard
Same staff must be done to Building_units_allowed_table since building type is changed in NTW and if you leave old ones from your OLD ETW MOD Building_units_allowed_table result is CTD!
Import
unitmodels mesh files
unitmodels/texture texture files
save it and … play
for Icon some do not work in NTW, alas I did not succeded in import them so if you are unlucky as me you have to make new ones.
the same for info's tabs and masks
for name and description both long and short, you have to export local_xx.pack or unit_pack_compatibility_project_napoleon_xxxx.pack /text/localisation.loc table as tsv and edit it in notepad (copy your old entries and paste them into) save changes and import tsv in same pack, save it and its done.
Cheers
here is the result http://www.twcenter.net/forums/attac...5&d=1269036376

[husserlTW]

If this works would be fantastic. A couple of questions: I suppose that some tables like units_to_gov_type_permissions, unit_required_technology_junctions are not necessary if the units are not assigned in a technology or government type, are they? If you use generic personalities is battle_personalities necessary? Also you should warn that buildings in Napoleon have deferent names so I suppose you cannot just import the Empire one. I am starting tests.

Edit: Did you try to add icon paths in Units table and it didn't work?

[Tobler75]

Thanx, for writing that down in a thread, maxim
rep++

[maxsim666]

If this works would be fantastic. A couple of questions: I suppose that some tables like units_to_gov_type_permissions, unit_required_technology_junctions are not necessary if the units are not assigned in a technology or government type, are they? If you use generic personalities is battle_personalities necessary? Also you should warn that buildings in Napoleon have deferent names so I suppose you cannot just import the Empire one. I am starting tests.

Edit: Did you try to add icon paths in Units table and it didn't work?

Yes husserl it works, almost with the 2nd somersetshire grenadiers as in the mod I posted at the end of tutorial
of course if there are no entry for your unit in any tables, you have to delete them all.
Yes building are different and I forget/missed to mention it.
thanks as you know in first attempt to write a tutorial something (frequent much) miss

[PietroMicca]

marvelous This is the first important step towards an Empire integration in Napoleon.

[husserlTW]

Icons seems to work fine as you can see here:



But it crashes when I try to enter in battle it has almost filled the loading bar (90%). I know that this is probably a model related issue but I cannot find. This which I do not understand is how the model from warscape tables is assigned to the unit. In Empire this happens in unit stat land in model column. Here I have to put the generic euroline or else it crashes at the beginning of the loading bar.

[maxsim666]

Icons seems to work fine as you can see here:



But it crashes when I try to enter in battle it has almost filled the loading bar (90%). I know that this is probably a model related issue but I cannot find. This which I do not understand is how the model from warscape tables is assigned to the unit. In Empire this happens in unit stat land in model column. Here I have to put the generic euroline or else it crashes at the beginning of the loading bar. Anyway i have attached a pack with only one unit that I've tested can you please take a look to see where is my mistake?

Husserl as always in life you were lucky. For my old etw icon when I attempt to import it PFM crashes.
you not have to leave euroline but exactly as in etw effective model type, then edit the two warscape table, like in etw, I guessed this when I found euroline entries in such tables and in unitmodels/texture.
I will tell you about your mod later now I must go in meantime look at my mod, original unit comes from toontotalwar, now integrated in American Revolution Mod
cheers

[husserlTW]

Husserl as always in life you were lucky. For my old etw icon when I attempt to import it PFM crashes.
you not have to leave euroline but exactly as in etw effective model type, then edit the two warscape table, like in etw, I guessed this when I found euroline entries in such tables and in unitmodels/texture.
I will tell you about your mod later now I must go in meantime look at my mod, original unit comes from toontotalwar, now integrated in American Revolution Mod
cheers

No lack. I've found the mistake before (forgot to rename warscape tables) but it didn;t work. With generic euroline it works but it appears the.... generic euroline in battlefield. If i change it crashes in the beginning od battle loading. I'll wait for a pack to see it.

Anyway +rep , it is fantastic to move our packs from ETW.

[maxsim666]

HusserlTW
works fine, you should put in it also officer and bugler textures (if there are) I made it playable for austria, so is quicker to play in single battle.
please send me correction I should add to tutorial, I reckon such procedure is not so simple
cheers

[panzerschreck]

Do you think that it Would it be possible to use the empire maps in NTW?

[husserlTW]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes,.... It does works!!!!!!!

[MCM]

Nice work Maxsim +rep to you sir!

[kungfuserge]

So that means the variant_model_mesh can be edited withe the converter ?
I mean Does the mesh models have the same structure of vertex ?

[husserlTW]

I don't think so. NTW uses an advanced graphic engine. That's why there are new model files (atlas) and the same time compatibility with ETW units as you can see in data.pack\unitmodels. As far as I know these atlas files are still unknown.

[kungfuserge]

What I don't get is how can you play a unit from ETW imported to NTW if the unit vertex obey to a different order set ?
Did someone have tried to open a .variant_model_mesh with the same python converter ?
I have just finished to update my mod ; So I'm free to create units if I understand how to open the mesh

[maxsim666]

becuase nappy can handle both models the ones of ETW and the new ones of NTW.
if you look around in packs file you'll see that Nappy is just an improvement of Empire, there so many entries in tables about Empire that make me think CA's was in such a hurry to sell us it that they not cleared all unnecessaries entries.

[EmperorLucky]

I am trying to add the Four Field Marshal's from ETW Aum 3.0 to NTW. is that possible? I cant seen to find the mesh and texture files for the Field MArshal

[freedomfury]

I have been trying to add Elite Units of the East Cairo Janissaries (Ottoman Empire) into NTW. using this as a guild I was able to get the unit to show but when I try to battle with him the game crashes. Can anybody take a look and see maybe I missed something.

[maxsim666]

I have been trying to add Elite Units of the East Cairo Janissaries (Ottoman Empire) into NTW. using this as a guild I was able to get the unit to show but when I try to battle with him the game crashes. Can anybody take a look and see maybe I missed something.

I looked a bit in your mod, found some little errors but not succeded in making it work.
Hope let you know soon about more satisfactory results
It must be something about db tables, I testes using different variant meshes files, since the EUA and EUE DLC ones are encrypted. But even with not encrypted tables it does not worked, you surely miss one entry in copy/past work in warscape table, and in abilities you did not changed unit id.
about unit and unit_stats_land, how did you handled them, copied and pasted, reedited or whatelse? let me know.
Did you experienced any PFM crash while editing mod?

[maxsim666]

I have been trying to add Elite Units of the East Cairo Janissaries (Ottoman Empire) into NTW. using this as a guild I was able to get the unit to show but when I try to battle with him the game crashes. Can anybody take a look and see maybe I missed something.

Did lot of test and ... bad news, it seems EUA and EUE variant_weighted_mesh are crypted, so discovered justamodder, http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...66#post7155066 hence no hope to make them working in NTW. NTW works only with not encrypted ETW variant_weighted_mesh.
Uploaded further tested mod working with meshes of east musketmen israelys