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    Default Noob qst about armor bug?!

    hello im very new to this mod, but it really rocks!

    but it seems that ive got a little problem.

    im playing currently the dale faction and im in year 2994. i build blacksmiths in one of my castles but the units dont get upgradet when i recruit them.
    the same is with units which i want to upgade to better armors...
    ive also have this armor problems in other towns and castles.

    i isntalled all patches. the last was the 1.4... i installed also all submods which were aviable in the installation. (for example realistic recruitment ect.)

    why i have this bug and can it be solved?

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    carth's Avatar Tiro
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    Default Re: Noob qst about armor bug?!

    it isnt a bug. there just isn't a armour upgrade for most units. the modders still need to make them but it is not a high piority.

    only a few like vault warden dwarves got 1 upgrade.
    so making smiths isnt very usefull.
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    Default Re: Noob qst about armor bug?!

    Actually there are armour upgrades. Not visualized though.

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    ah okay so they are upgrated but im not able to see yes? thx 4 the fast replies

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    Default Re: Noob qst about armor bug?!

    The only indication of successful armor upgrade is a small shield on units icon. The look of the unit itself and its icon should not change.

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    Default Re: Noob qst about armor bug?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ęsir View Post
    The only indication of successful armor upgrade is a small shield on units icon. The look of the unit itself and its icon should not change.
    i dont get these never been able to even get a bronze shield.
    so i have bug then..?
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    Quote Originally Posted by carth View Post
    i dont get these never been able to even get a bronze shield.
    so i have bug then..?
    I'm sure I get them. In Minas Tirith I was able to train soldiers with both - sword and shield icons (after geting the swordsmith guild and building max tyre blacksmith). Or am I mistaken..

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    Default Re: Noob qst about armor bug?!

    well i havent gone further then a blackmail smith because they didn't give me bonuses. so maybe you need the max tier?
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    Quote Originally Posted by carth View Post
    well i havent gone further then a blackmail smith because they didn't give me bonuses. so maybe you need the max tier?
    Of course max tier, because gondorian soldiers already have partial plate and next upgrade is full plate.

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    Default Re: Noob qst about armor bug?!

    Quote Originally Posted by carth View Post
    well i havent gone further then a blackmail smith because they didn't give me bonuses. so maybe you need the max tier?
    blackmail: extortion of money or something else of value from a person by the threat of exposing a criminal act or discreditable information.

    Every unit has a different armour upgrade, just look at the bottom of the unit stats and you'll see something like next armour upgrade heavy mail. In case of gondor it should read next armour upgrade full plate.

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    Default Re: Noob qst about armor bug?!

    It's not a bug at all.

    And if you used submods, the pb you meet must be reported in the submod forum (although in this case the "pb" is in the official TATW version).

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    Default Re: Noob qst about armor bug?!

    Most units, especially for good factions, will upgrade to either partial plate or full plate. Few units will actually make use of the first two tiers of the smith buildings.

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    Default Re: Noob qst about armor bug?!

    If you want to make good use of leather tanners play Rhun, all of their low tier units benefit from them.

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    it seems all units can have only one upgrade which gives a +1 defense, so i think armor upgrade isn't so important in this mod

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    Default Re: Noob qst about armor bug?!

    It should also be noted that units queued before saving a game will still apear in the recruitment queue after loading that save, but will no longer count as cueued, requiring you to deselect and re-cueue them every time you load a game in order to get the upgrade next turn... got it?
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    Default Re: Noob qst about armor bug?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Scipio praeditus View Post
    It should also be noted that units queued before saving a game will still apear in the recruitment queue after loading that save, but will no longer count as cueued, requiring you to deselect and re-cueue them every time you load a game in order to get the upgrade next turn... got it?
    Yeah this annoying bug was part of vanilla M2TW too. I think its a hardcoded problem which explains why it has not been fixed.
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    Default Re: Noob qst about armor bug?!

    armor upgrade gives +2 defense, the unit card is incorrect. An armor uprade is always worth it.

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