Flank attacks.

[kostas84]

Attacks from the flank are useless, when i charge my cavalry in the enemy's flank, nothing happens, no casualities and my cavalry gets owned instead, i repeated, and nothing, flank attacks are supposed to be a core strategy in this game!

[Boriak]

They work for me. Maybe you're having a glitch.

[4th Regiment]

It is working, but moral of units is too big, so you do not feel realistic effect of rear cavalry charge

[torongill]

First, you should attack from the rear. Flank attacks are better that frontal, but the engine cannot simulate true flanking. Besides, with most units if you attack them from the flank you attack more or less 1/10 of the men you could be attacking from the rear. Another point - do not attack spearmen. And the most important - do not attack a unit(whether from the flank or rear) unless it's already engaged from the front. The whole idea of cavalry charges is "pin them from the front and smash them from the rear."

[kostas84]

Thats what i did, engage them from the front with foot infantry and charge them in the back or rear with cavalry, this always works for me in Vanilla, no matter how bad the cavalry is, but here, in this mod, it doesnt.

[Knonfoda]

I kinda know what you are talking about. Thing with EB that I noticed is that:

A) Cavalry melee attack usually sucks, so charging from the back and making them stay there usually results in heavy losses.
B) Units seem to have higher morale in EB than in Vanilla. A good example is a unit of Numidian peltasts surviving a charge from 5 cavalry units that outnumber them 5-1 and not running.

Thus, charge and retreat, charge and retreat, etc.

[kostas84]

Its not the morale but the casualities that the charge makes, it kills my cavalry instead of their units.

[4th Regiment]

Well, underpowered (heavy) cavalry against light/levy infantry was discussed in "Now, about cavalry..." tread, so take a look to get some ideas. But rear charge should work and do some real damage (although not as it should realistically). Just do not keep you cavalry in prolonged melee. If not, something is bugged in your game.

[Kiyan_the_Great]

Its not the morale but the casualities that the charge makes, it kills my cavalry instead of their units.

dude im sure youre doing something wrong, i play as pahlava, and my cavalry pwns so many infantry in every charge is not even funny, it is within the bound of reason of course but its so epic everytime the pahlavanan cavalary slams into a unit, so i really have no idea what youre talking about...

[Entropy Judge]

Attacks from the flank are useless, when i charge my cavalry in the enemy's flank, nothing happens, no casualities and my cavalry gets owned instead, i repeated, and nothing, flank attacks are supposed to be a core strategy in this game!

Are you using the correct type of Cavalry? For example, Campanian Cavalry have swords, not spears, so they can't really charge.

Are your cavalry actually charging? Watch the cavalry unit before it impacts - if they don't drop their spears into position before making contact with the enemy, the charge isn't going through correctly.

Are you letting your cavalry finish the charge? Hover your mouse above the cavalry unit (or its unit card) and wait until its status changes from "Charging" to "Fighting" to get the mosts out of the charge.

[kostas84]

I know if a cavalry unit charges, flank attacks is what i do in every battle after all.

[Entropy Judge]

I know if a cavalry unit charges, flank attacks is what i do in every battle after all.

And yet, according to you, they aren't working. Ergo, either you are doing something wrong (hence my questions and Foot's advice), or there is a problem with the game (which I find unlikely, but hey), in which case Boriak's advice to reinstall would be your best bet.

Not to mention you haven't answered my other questions - if you're charging with sword cavalry, of course you aren't going to get a good charge; if you pull your men back before the charge is complete, of course you aren't going to get full effect.

[Foot]

Are you charging properly? Running into a unit won't do anything. You have to spend your cavalry to the starting point of their charge, a far way behind the unit you are intending to attack and line them up into an ordered unit. Once they are ordered, you are free to attack. You will know when they are charging when their lances are lowered. If their lances are not lowered when they hit, they did not charge and will do little or no damage.

Also don't play on anything but Medium battle difficulty. Higher levels of difficulty only boost the enemy stats not their intelligence .

Foot

[Boriak]

I still think it's a glitch. The one time I tried playing Alexander's campaign, I was in a battle where my horses simply ignored all my commands. I say try reinstalling EB.

[Argeus the Paladin]

Are you sure your cavalrymen's name don't begin with "Cata" and end with "phract"?

[Horse Archer]

Well, you can't expect one hammer-and-anvil to do the job like in vanilla, you have to be patient as the infantry loses morale through fatigue in meele, and possibly through repeated charges if your cavalry is free to do so early. Also, you should REALLY concentrate your horsies on a target repeatedly to get the best effect (to include the "concerned by the number of enemies" effect if possible). If this still doesn't work, then there may be a bug, like previously said.

[Faramir D'Andunie]

First of all, one should not expect the cavalry from RTW vanilla that steamrolled everything.

Attacks from the flank are indeed not as usefull, simply because doing the same charge from the rear would be way more devastating. And make sure not to let that cavalry engaged in melee too much if their morale holds, or you might start seeing it taking a lot of losses.

Personally I suggest to try and focus the mass of your heavy horse on single spot of the enemy battle line, as mentioned above.

Oh and as said.

You have to spend your cavalry to the starting point of their charge, a far way behind the unit you are intending to attack and line them up into an ordered unit. Once they are ordered, you are free to attack.

[kostas84]

In vanilla multiplayer, i had 6 cataphracts with gold sword and gold shield and i raped the whole enemy army, which was rome, unit after unit was being destroyed, since EB has everything balanced, i shouldnt expect same results, i didnt from the start, but i hoped for a better result than the one i was having.

Ill learn how to use cavalry in EB with some expirience.

[Kiyan_the_Great]

In vanilla multiplayer, i had 6 cataphracts with gold sword and gold shield and i raped the whole enemy army, which was rome, unit after unit was being destroyed, since EB has everything balanced, i shouldnt expect same results, i didnt from the start, but i hoped for a better result than the one i was having.

Ill learn how to use cavalry in EB with some expirience.

ok in EB the charge rate of cataphracts is epic, but the melee has gone down, and both are as they are supposed too be, cataphracts are weak against any heavy infantry in a prolonged melee, as it actually was in history. the best asses of a cataphract is its charging, if you keep charging, and withdrawing and re-charging ,(youll get a couple of charges before your cataphracts become exausted), youll see masses of your enemies army dead, with little damage to no damage your cataphracts, and also beware the AP units, which are fatal to cataphracts