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    Aetius it would be possible that the romans could build defensive walls like adrian's (that are not permanent)?

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    Laeti is the correct term for a barbarian settlement within the empire.
    Thats another of your statements that are presented in an absolut way and again I doubt it.

    Both, foederati and laeti are often used with the same meaning. Basically being allowed to settle within the borders of the empire and therefore accepting "roman rule" and offer some services (mostly to give troops).
    Laeti may be a late more used and/or more harsh term (as it might originate from a germanic word for slave) and foedus also had different meanings (especially in earlier times) as a word for a sort of treaty, that could also mean an alliance between equals. Theres are also discussuions if laeti was somewhat reserved for settled barbarians that were defeated before. But the use of the words in late empire is found often describing the same and I guess foederati was still more frequent.

    On a name change: I think it would be possible, at least in way like adding a "title", like some reaching trait degree can do ("Constantuis the unfeeling Butcher" ) but not a real change.
    And what for? Stilicho being "Stlicius", Ricimer being "Ricimus" or whatever spelling?

    No I wont subscribe to this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aethelstan View Post
    ("Constantuis the unfeeling Butcher" ) but not a real change.
    And what for? Stilicho being "Stlicius", Ricimer being "Ricimus" or whatever spelling?

    No I wont subscribe to this.
    And I am not unfeeling


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    Quote Originally Posted by constantius View Post
    And I am not unfeeling
    You didnt mind the butcher though ...

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    Hmmm... I didn't know that, i just learned it laeti for barbarian settlement under roman authority and foedus was treaty.

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    Hmmm... I didn't know that, i just learned it laeti for barbarian settlement under roman authority and foedus was treaty.
    Yeah thats pretty much as you can put it up for a theory.
    Still its much more complicate or used without real care (and I mean sources here). You can find laeti as a term for a troop--contingent and foederat as describing "auxiliary" troops that were probably not from settlements in the empire.
    If I recall it right foedus was in its origin a special sworn treaty, that had yet still to be verified by Emperor or senat.

    I dont wanna say that your statement is really false, I just dont like how its presented as a clearly distinguishable fact that could divide two totally different meanings.

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    Hmmm... i see what your saying... So both are technically correct...

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    Foedus a treaty -look it up


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    depends on what you mean by that.

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    Maybe it's his job... i've seen a few of his campaigns before and he's a butcher

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    if feodus is to be implemented, then it might be cool to add more very small provinces for small time tribes who actually keep their pacts rather then backstabed you at the nearest opportunity, because eventually you will end up with no allies like that.
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    there are a few, none i can name right off the back

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    I dont see much possibilities to implement a foedus(-treaty) but maybe the vassall-status.
    And I dont really know how this one works (yet).
    With "many more small provinces" and factions you need to keep in mind the limits (200/30).

    Best way for me till now is giving factions access to certain foederati-troops.

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    Yeah, the faction/province limit often greatly confines the game...

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    well, i mean really small territories, with tribes who have ali9ke maybe 1-2 tiny villages, such as the saxons on the coast, their territory hold at the start is less then minimal even tho they hold 3 settlements

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    Well, yeah yeah i know what yer saying, but permenant residence of the saxons didn't start until the 2nd visit of germanus of auxerre.

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    In winter the armies should have slightly less movement points (logistics problems) and some rivers freeze (completely or only in some areas) thus forming landbriges.

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    Hmm... not necessarily, it is very unlikely the rhine froze in 406, the barbarians just walked acroos unguarded bridges and fords

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    semi- permanent army camps would be cool, not just small forts, but you know, permanent danube and rhine army bases, they cant be taken down and easily defendable? or maybe just enlarge a fort ?

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    There are mods that are implementing this, including AODII and IBUR, but it would be a useful addition to IB2

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