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[Magister Militum Flavius Aetius]

I don't remember, but most we get about merovich is from him so it probably was.

[Aethelstan]

Just digged out my copies of Gregor and Fredegar (no books, really just "photocopied papers" from my student times and so no longer complete) and theres nothing. Missing parts are mostly "book one", the ancient times, so I doubt there is more.
Also nothing with Herwig Wolfram or Eugen Ewig (German historians who wrote about the period) about any sort of adoption. Maybe some mixup with Aegidius regarded somewhat as a king to some frankish groups that ceased to ellect own ones for some time?
The story behind is (as you mentioned) of course there, but I cant found merowech in it.
Its about a tribe of the rhine-frankish division (often called ripuarians - Merowech should be Salian, shouldnt he?) calling for assitance on a succession question. One part to the WRE and Aetius and the other to the Huns and Attila - they are also reported to have fought on different sides in 451 (maybe last mentioning of the Bructeri).

So unless you still can point out a source, please mate keep in mind:
I´m not against a bit speculation or just telling something your not too shure of, but please state is as such and not as facts.

I´m also trying this for myself, cause mostly I type things here that I can only "recall" and sometimes not too good.

[Magister Militum Flavius Aetius]

I've always had some doubts about it too... The part about the franks splitting on the question of sucession is true. It was one of Attila's excuses to invade gaul.

[Constantius]

So unless you still can point out a source, please mate keep in mind:
I´m not against a bit speculation or just telling something your not too shure of, but please state is as such and not as facts.

I´m also trying this for myself, cause mostly I type things here that I can only "recall" and sometimes not too good.

I've always had some doubts about it too... The part about the franks splitting on the question of sucession is true. It was one of Attila's excuses to invade gaul.

Then you do it again! I have been reading the works of monk for about an hour based on your conjecture now you tell me you don't beleaive it either Whilst scanning for information I did find this, its an old article but , you might just find it interesting

[Magister Militum Flavius Aetius]

Thanks. Constantius. Sorry bout' that.

[Aethelstan]

Seems interesting constantius (I´ve only read the first pages yet). Thanks for the link.

Btw do you have some link for Gregor of tours or fredegar or other related sources?
I always find MGH a pain in the ass.

[Constantius]

Seems interesting constantius (I´ve only read the first pages yet). Thanks for the link.

Btw do you have some link for Gregor of tours or fredegar or other related sources?
I always find MGH a pain in the ass.

MGH ? ?
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/basis...ist.html#book1

[Aethelstan]

MGH ? ?

Monumenta Germaniae Historica
A big collection of germanic/german history sources; really good printed editions.
Also with a web presence since a while, but I find it hard to use:
http://bsbdmgh.bsb.lrz-muenchen.de/dmgh_new/

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/basis...ist.html#book1

Thats a good one, thanks - exactly what I looked for, cause communication here is in english its horrible for me to translate anything I want to quote first.

[Magister Militum Flavius Aetius]

Yea, me too.

[Magister Militum Flavius Aetius]

I have no Idea, I was just going along with it to look good.

[Constantius]

Well ok, there is a link hope it meets requirements, its in English, not Latin tho.

[Magister Militum Flavius Aetius]

Good, I cant read alotta latin although I can make out the base of what it's saying.

[Magister Militum Flavius Aetius]

Here's wikipedia's source on merovich

^ Priscus, fr. 16; Gregory of Tours, ii.7. It is possible that this happened after the Battle of the Catalaunian Plains in 451 (Jones, p. 27).

[Aethelstan]

This is Gregory, book II, chapter 7, (part after battle) as taken from constantius link:

Ætius with the Goths and Franks fought against Attila. And the latter saw that his army was being destroyed, and escaped by flight. And Theodore, king of the Goths, was slain in the battle. Now let no one doubt that the army of Huns was put to flight by the intercession of the bishop mentioned above. And so Ætius the patrician, along with Thorismodus, won the victory and destroyed the enemy. And when the battle was finished, Ætius said : to Thorismodus: "Make haste and return swiftly to your native land, for fear you lose your father's kingdom because of your brother." The latter, on hearing this, departed speedily with the intention of anticipating his brother, and seizing his father's throne first. At the same time Ætius by a stratagem caused the king of the Franks to flee. When they had gone, Ætius took the spoils of the battle and returned victoriously to his country with much booty. And Attila retreated with a few men. Not long after Aquileia was captured by the Huns and burned and altogether destroyed. Italy was overrun and plundered. Thorismodus, whom we have mentioned above, overcame the Alans in battle, and was himself defeated later on by his brothers, after many quarrels and battles, and put to death.

Still nothing there.
Its a very shortened version - didnt check it, but I guess its an edited one, were all parts have been taken out, that are suspected to be later additions.
I checked my copy of german publishing - still nothing.
If that frankish king is supposed to be Merowech - well I have serious doubts. And there still wouldnt be the slightest hint of an adoption. If you see the "story before" it might be a good guess, that its the(/a) "ripuarian" king and its the rival with Attilas forces he might be concerned with.

(Jones, p. 27).

Couldnt check that, cause I dont know what this (kind of shortcut) refers to.

If you wanted to give a wiki-link it doesnt work. Clickable part is
http://www.twcenter.net/wiki/Battle_...launian_Plains
reading: There is currently no text in this page.
I´ve looked at this article, which seems not bad:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalaunian_Plains
nothing again

Also looked at german wiki:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlach...ischen_Feldern
nothing

Couoldnt even find the name Merovech (vich) in any of this.
I´m becoming a bit tired of it ...

[Magister Militum Flavius Aetius]

Naw, the link is there By accident. I dindn't mean for it to be thaere. That source actually comes from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavius_Aetius

As they say, never trust wikipedia

[Aethelstan]

So "Jones" is "Jones, A.H.M., The Later Roman Empire 284-602. Oxford Press, Cambridge, 1964.".
No source, but a secondary work. No judgement possible without checking which sources he may list.

Priscus I couldnt check, cause I only found a greek version and I´m unable to read this.

Anyway, that the given source with Gregory is wrong is a very bad sign.
For me this is nonsense untill its proved and as I said: I lost interest for now.

[Magister Militum Flavius Aetius]

Yeah, I'm not buyin this anymore either...

[Aurelius Silvanus Tacitus]

In this game the roman faction (all except ERE) that controls the greater part or the western empire should change it's name into Imperium Romanum Occidentalis.

[Magister Militum Flavius Aetius]

Yeah, im thinking about making all the names in my mod latin too... It's a feature AoDII uses

[Northern_Warrior]

have you thougt of any way to incorporate the more finer intriacies of the 476 "fall"? like ERE Emperor Zeno recieving the imperial vestiges of the puppet ruler Romulus Augustulus, and accepted truce with Odeacer soon after?
Odeacers realm starting out as a client state of the ERE for example?
Is Julius Nepos going to factor in?..just brainstorming atm