Was 1947 a fair split of Israel/Palestine?

[handsome pete]

Was the 1947 plan to split the modern region of Israel/Palestine a fair deal ?

[Treize]

In the past I supported this but I heard that all the good parts went to the Jews and the bad parts went to the Palatinians, so no.

[Gromovnik]

In the past I supported this but I heard that all the good parts went to the Jews...

yeah, like the Negev desert.

[Katsumoto]

Of course not.

[Shayne]

What an inane question. Of course it was not fair, do some reading. I'd particularly recommend the Israeli historians Benny Morris and Ilan Pappe.

[handsome pete]

okay. but is asking a question to something you don't know inane?

[Shayne]

okay. but is asking a question to something you don't know inane?

Your right, apologies. Israel/Palestine threads cyclically spawn round here and I've read my fair share of rubbish. Sorry for being rude. I think this thread belongs in the academy anyway.

[motiv-8]

okay. but is asking a question to something you don't know inane?

No, and I apologize for the fact that you had to be insulted for daring to ask a question.

[Pontifex Maximus]

Moved to the academy.

[Chlodwig I.]

As long as they don't try to get along instead of killing each other it doesn't matter.

[Koelkastmagneet]

It depends, based on the population distribution of Arabs and Jews at that time, no.

Based on the amount of Jews that were likely to emigrate it could be considered fair.

[Angrychris]

ww1 and ww2 resulted in hasty and misunderstood border creations.

[roy34543]

It was pretty fair, considering that jews over the entire world might have emigrated , and that the palestinians could move to any arab coutnry if they wanted rather easily at the time. Even then, The "palestinians" which were just your average arab at the time, had absoloutly nothing to distinguish them, except that they could get very angry very quickly.

What an inane question. Of course it was not fair, do some reading. I'd particularly recommend the Israeli historians Benny Morris and Ilan Pappe

You mean, people who arent objective and care more about money and fame then actual history and dont care if they distort it?
Yeah those are great sources.
Well ok, that just applies to Ilan pappe, Benny morris is more or less ok, if controvorsial.
All these historians are stupid though. Using so called Israeli documents that were never seen until a couple of years ago as a source with nothing else to back it? That should get you killed in any serious gathering of historians, but it doesnt seem to have here.
Apart from that though, its nto remotely relevant BECAUSE NONE OF THEM DISCUSS IF THE BORDERS WERE FAIR.
Your just trying to make someone else read a book that shares your perverted views wiithout having any relevance at all to the subject at hand.

In the past I supported this but I heard that all the good parts went to the Jews...

Not really, everything at the time was more or less desert . Theyre just good bits "today" but that doesnt represent how they looked in 1947.
In 1947 Israel was swamps, deserts and occasionally just mountainous or hilly terrain. "today" they got rid of the swamps and used water to grow crops.

[Angrychris]

Fact is that european powers took land that was disputed for a very long time and just decided the victor.

[Koelkastmagneet]

Fact is that european powers took land that was disputed for a very long time and just decided the victor.

Aren't we awesome?

The partition plan was approved by the UN in which Arab and Islamic countries participated.

[morda8]

i think a better question would be to ask what would the arab country been called if no war erupted....i dont think it would have been called palestine because at that time there wasnt any "palestinian/arabic" ideology...they were just arabs...would those lands have been swallowed up by the sorounding arab countries or would have there been a single arab country along side israel?

asking if it was fair or not is really pointless some will agree others wont. i guess it wasnt fair since the arabs got most of the north and cetral parts of the mandate (which are mainly fertile areas) while 50% of the jewish state compromised of the negev desert

[PointOfViewGun]

After learning that Jews only bought 3% of the lands they're occupying right not, no.

[Angrychris]

If arab and islamic nations participated then why did they try to destroy israel afterwards?

[The Noble Lord]

Well, this terrible conflict started after 1948 so obviously it wasn't fair. Neither side is happy and content the way things are.

[Nazgûl Killer]

No, it wasn't fair at the time due to the population ratio of Arabs and Jews, however, considering the number of Jews who were about to emigrate, it was quite fair indeed.