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    Babri's Avatar Miles
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    Default Problem in westernizing

    I am playing as Morocco in Heir to the Throne. I've sold the province of Tangier to Genoa who are my vassal & are Sunni. Now they even have got core on Tangier but still there is no option of Westernizing in Mission & national decision panel. Though I don't meet the conditions of centralization & innovation but still it should appear in mission & national decision panel. I share border with many other Western powers too like Castille. Any help ?

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    Default Re: Problem in westernizing

    I believe this is a bug in unpatched HTTT. In the Westernisation Decision file for Muslim tech, it reads that you must have a neighbour that is both in the Western and Eastern tech groups, which is impossible as a nation can only have one tech group.

    Go on the Paradox Forums, create an account there, register your game, and download the 4.1 beta patch there. That should fix the problem.

    Otherwise, if you just want to fix this issue and not bother downloading the beta patch. Go into your EU3 folder, go in decisions, and open westernisation (notepad). Find section that relates to Muslim westernisation, and replace it with this:

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    muslim_westernisation = {
    potential = {
    technology_group = muslim
    any_neighbor_country = {
    OR = {
    technology_group = western
    technology_group = eastern
    }
    }
    }
    allow = {
    NOT = { centralization_decentralization = -1 }
    NOT = { innovative_narrowminded = -2 }
    stability = 3
    ADM = 6
    }
    effect = {
    technology_group = eastern
    random_owned = {
    base_tax = 1
    change_manpower = 1
    }
    innovative_narrowminded = -1
    stability = -5
    add_country_modifier = {
    name = "western_influences"
    duration = -1
    }
    }
    ai_will_do = {
    factor = 1
    }
    }


    [Sidenote: I believe the reason why it's bugged is that the bolded two lines in there arn't present in 4.0. Though i'm not sure if they're simply not present or something else is there.]
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    Default Re: Problem in westernizing

    Thank you very much !
    The decision says that my tech group will be changed to oriental. What does that mean ?

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    Default Re: Problem in westernizing

    Oriental aka Eastern. It's the second best tech group, and it's what factions such as Byzantium, Hungary, Poland, Lithuania and the Russian nations start with (iirc the Ottos also start in it). You should have one Westernisation left (you'll need a Latin/Western neighbour this time) and then you'll be at the same tech speed as say England or France.
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    Default Re: Problem in westernizing

    How exactly do you westernize? Where's the option to do so in the menus?

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    Default Re: Problem in westernizing

    Quote Originally Posted by kot1k View Post
    How exactly do you westernize? Where's the option to do so in the menus?
    I know that, if you're playing In Nomine at least, that you need to be relatively centralized, relatively innovative, have a monarch of 7 Administration, and be at 3 stability (I believe you also need to be bordering someone of a higher tech group than yourself as well.)

    The decision to westernize is on the decision tab, as well.

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