H I S T O R Y T O L I F E
founded- March 12, 2010 By Frederich Barbarossa
THE UNKOWN SOLDIERS OF WWI
A legendary Genre 'Marschmusik'
H I S T O R Y T O L I F E
founded- March 12, 2010 By Frederich Barbarossa
THE UNKOWN SOLDIERS OF WWI
A legendary Genre 'Marschmusik'
His highness, ŝeŝurn I, Keng of Savomyr!
THE UNKOWN SOLDIERS OF WWI
Little has been known from Czech soldiers in the first world war, and when the subject pops up in mind, it seems we know nothing about their contributions in the war. It has however been clearly known that Czech army units serving under the astro-hungarian empire had served in various frontlines such as Galicia and northing Italy during the first world war, but other then that, we could see no major contributions, other then troops and soldery. Their contributions seemed to be narrowed down to only considered as military resources, but what would be found out would be a great fact to discuss.
During the first world war, foreign Czech's aligned with the entene mostly, but in the heartland it was obviously different. It can be known that these Czechs were often prone to volunteering in foreign armies, to probably take off a grudge they had for an empire or country occupying their homeland, with this case the Austro-Hungarians. So we can see their obvious reasons for doing so, but what we don't see is how Czech soldiers differentiated the battle situation a lot. Sometimes, it might be sad that around 67% Czechs according to online internet sources, volunteered in the US cause, and even handed plans made by the Austro-Hungarians to tighten the efforts to slow down trade with Britain. This was absolutely decisive in the allied victory in world war one. But as I said, we don't know the story completely. Just a year or so ago an exhibition in Prague Castle was laid down under the title 'World war one on foot'. This exhibition contained around 150 digitally restored photographs of Czech soldiers in world war one, and their contributions. The photos showed Czech soldiers attacking trenches through snow, and even in cementaries which in one time gave me personally the goose-bumps, but at another it gave me the privilege to say that 'without Czech intervention on the Central Powers side, a concrete invasion of Rumania might have been unlikey, or even impossible, due to the scarsity of Austro-Hungarian resources at the time'.
As stated by Daniela Mrazkova This is the first really big collection of photos from WWI. The photos have a really high quality of composition. While other big events in world history had their own big photographers, WWI has not had one until now.
This vital information prooves major Czech contributions during this frightful period. A slidshow of the marvelous exhibit can still be seen in this video link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL0OcJNxbUY . Also Czech allied contributions can be seen in the battle of Zborov In 1917, where they charged with practically no ammunition and won, and during the last Russian Offensive during which large numbers of Czech's showed a state of bravery that would dealt fear upon their 'enemies'. Some Czech prisoners from the Austro-Hungarian army were allowed to reside in Allied armies, spanning from Russia with a large Czech population, to even Canada, where large divisions and brigades began to grow. It has been told that the soldiers would rather commit suicide either literally or not, than be captured by an enemy unit. This both shows their courage and devotion to their leaders during the war, but also shows a sort of Anti-Imperialism. Czechoslovakia or Bohemia had been a part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire for over 200 years, so didn't the Austrians capture their loyalty overtime?
Believe it or not, the Czech's did something extraordinary, even for me to believe! They did a 5,000 mile trek, from Kiev, Ukraine, all the way to Vladavostock, in the pacific ocean! You may wonder why, but they had a good reason. Starting in 1917 the Czech's created the Czech national council for the independance of their land, however Russia was withdrawing from the war at the time. So the newly powered Bolscheviks granted them right of way to the pacific, to unify with French forces. Maybe it seems like a longer route, but they couldn't invade from the East because it would be interrupting the soviet-German pact, in which the Soviet Union would withdraw from the war, and give the Germany/Austro-Hungarian empires excessive amounts of territory. The trek started fine, but as time came by 1918, the Czech's were embittered by Soviet forces slowing them down and even arresting some of their forces. By the time, Czech figures in the national council were arrested, and Trotsky even ordered for the dissarmament of Czech Units. The army would simply go to the town where the political hostage was held and liberate it. By the time the Czech's were approaching Vladavostock, the Bolscheviks approached with, believe it or not, German ex-prisoners. Ex! Germans collaborating with communists? This is very new. In the end however the Czechs won at Vladavostock, with allied assistance and had made it to their determined destination. This not only shows their obsession to Czech nationalization, but also to the war both on the entente and central powers, which granted me a great respect for them.
This victory really does prove, that even the smallest army trapped in the largest of countries, can still manage to breakthrough and win the victory, they want so much...
A Czech soldier in siberia.
Victory against the Bolschevik!
It had also been known that Jewish soldiers were greatly involved in WWI. In Germany over 12,000 were killed in action against entente forces in the western Front alone, and their popularity was actually very good compared to 1930... It has been studied by various historians and institutes that they worshipped their unconditional loyalty to Kaiser Joseph in Austro-Hungary and even prayed for him in their Torahs. Pictures can be found in German and Hebrew depicting this feat. The Kaiser said, he could only trust two groups in his empire, 'The Jews, and the Austro-Hungarians...' It is said they were so loyal to him and his government, because they were afraid of what may come after. Unfortunately they were right. It is shown in this link with greater detail.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ9Va...eature=related
Last edited by Frederich Barbarossa; March 12, 2010 at 08:18 PM.
A legendary Genre 'Marschmusik'
It is always an outdated subject to many, but to me its great.
It is marchmusik, and it is what I say represents the mere
existence of us today. It shows patriotism, pride, anger,
sadness, happiness, and so much more. It defines so many things
others cannot. It inspires the human soul, and enhances our way
of thinking and interpreting things, yet it is not recieved at all
by us. An example would be the Radezky march, and Castaldo march
which prove to house mixtures of classical and contemporary
(at the time) music. March music, has that powerful 1, 2, 1, 2, 3
pattern which literally sometimes tells you to basically march
randomly throughout your house and makes you feel cleansed.
This music genre is so beautiful and rich in culture. It started
as a phenomenon with Hohenfriedberger in the 1740's all the way
up to the second world war, where it lost its flavor. Now the world
lacks great composers and conductors, that it once had. We have
especially lost those great figures like Karajan, who has now been
dead for 21 years, which is terrifyingly sad. It is the end of a golden
era, unless we do something. This music provides a psychological
cleansing and spacing out, where a listener might feel relaxed, which
makes it comparative to classical music. However, it is more lively,
and energetic then that music, and therefore can be much more
enjoyable in a few terms like appeal, addiction, melody, and others.
It has pro's all around. It is relaxing yet energetic. Rigid yet Melodic,
and it was used to keep some of the worlds most famous militaries
in step. So I say, why do we ignore this genre so much? Has it been
used for bad things? Is it now considered that anybody listening to
a march would be considered a nazi or hitler like, where they would
shout with a fake moustache and say HEIL! No! That is not like that,
and it's ridiculous because it's true. Too many people and especially
teenagers are being taught this by television, and cinema. It is not
true, this music was meant to be beautiful, not a hate fueled machine.
It should be completely embraced as a musical genre, and as a way
of life. For example if my grandfather heard me listening to march music,
he would call me Hitler. So don't associate it with things that aren't even
similar. That is just my opinion by the way...
Great Composers and Musicians of Marschmusik
Rudolf Novacek- Czech
Johann Straus- Austrian
That's just one example, but there are many more. Here are composers and marches. Just take a look on youtube.
-Horst Wessel (warning: this is a nazi composer but still considered a famous march)
-Westerwald Lied
-Castaldo March (By Novacek)
-Wenn die Soldaten
-Schneidige Truppe
-Alte Kameraden (by Carl Teike)
-Panzer lied
-Semper Fidelis (by Philip Sousa)
-Stars and Stripes forever
-Washington Post
-Japanese imperial Naval march
-Hohenfriedberger
-Erika
-Petersburger March
-Deutsches Flieg
-Deutschland lied (Kind of a march)
-The Marseille
-British Grenadiers
and so many others... Comon enlighten yourself!
Last edited by Frederich Barbarossa; March 12, 2010 at 08:37 PM.
His highness, ŝeŝurn I, Keng of Savomyr!
reserved.
His highness, ŝeŝurn I, Keng of Savomyr!
reserved!
His highness, ŝeŝurn I, Keng of Savomyr!
Na, Czech Legion was not "unknown" during WWI and Russian Civil War. In fact, they were probably the most famous "White" force during Russian Civil War, and many countries, such as Japan, was thinking to rescue those Czechs during Civil War.
Of course it is unknown to people who are not familiar with history, which means majority of people. But then, consider those people generally knows little basic history...
The Czech Legion is quite well-known.
Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
Originally Posted by Miel Cools
Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.
Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
Jajem ssoref is m'n korewE goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtompWer niks is, hot kawsones
The size 1 writing on the second post is hard to read.
The Czechoslovak Legion is very well known military unit. Also, you might put spoilers around that photo with corpses, it might be against TOS or something.
Optio, Legio I Latina
Of course but this was meant for people who didn't know.![]()
His highness, ŝeŝurn I, Keng of Savomyr!
You're trying hard to become a citizen I see....
Although, it exceeds the master-level.
Well done.
Come on, that's not called for. Member goes out of their way to make an article on the Czech legion and you both criticise them for doing it only to become a citizen and you take a subtle jab at master412160.
Besides a few formatting issues it's good Frederich, keep it up![]()
Wait, I think I may have made a small mistake in subjective load of my writings or that the perception is a bit wrong:
I said he was trying to get citizen (those who didn't see it coming when looking over the forums and the grand ideas and initiatives: say AYE) which isn't a shamefull thing to do (or am I mistaken ?)...
I compared him to master
I said he was doing far better than master
which is very good (honestly)
what now ?