Why Russia?

[Pickle_mole]

whats with all the hate russia? i want you to be strong and part of a euro-american bloc, why cant we be friends and benifit each other? why cant we bend the iranians over together? why cant we have love? I miss you guys, please come back in light of our common enemy, the rest of the world, i still think your beautiful. In a more serious tone, why are we always at each others throats, why are our goals no mutual?

[Oklop]

Heavy Russian accent:

Because comrade, when we extract information it is torture, when you do it it is "enhanced interrogation technique". When we accidentally bomb civilians it is deliberate, when you do it it is "collateral damage". When we support dictatorial and tyrannical regime it is imperialism, when you do it it is "necessity". When we invade a country it is aggression, when you do it it is "liberation and intervention".

When we put a military base in a country near us it is return to Soviet times, when you do it it is "spreading the global security". Because our insurgent enemies are guerrillas or freedom fighters while your insurgent enemies are "terrorists". When we recognize a breakaway region of your ally it is preposterous and against international norms, when you do the same to our ally it is "choice of the people".

Equality comrade is what we want with you, whether equal friends or equal opponents, but equal nevertheless.

And if we agree to bend over Iran, then surely Saudi Arabia must be next to bend over da? They after all fulfill the role of villain like in a good movie.

[The.Delegate]

Heavy Russian accent:

Because comrade, when we extract information it is torture, when you do it it is "enhanced interrogation technique". When we accidentally bomb civilians it is deliberate, when you do it it is "collateral damage". When we support dictatorial and tyrannical regime it is imperialism, when you do it it is "necessity". When we invade a country it is aggression, when you do it it is "liberation and intervention".

When we put a military base in a country near us it is return to Soviet times, when you do it it is "spreading the global security". Because our insurgent enemies are guerrillas or freedom fighters while your insurgent enemies are "terrorists". When we recognize a breakaway region of your ally it is preposterous and against international norms, when you do the same to our ally it is "choice of the people".

Equality comrade is what we want with you, whether equal friends or equal opponents, but equal nevertheless.

And if we agree to bend over Iran, then surely Saudi Arabia must be next to bend over da? They after all fulfill the role of villain like in a good movie.

Well said.

[reavertm]

Heavy Russian accent:

Because comrade, when we extract information it is torture, when you do it it is "enhanced interrogation technique". When we accidentally bomb civilians it is deliberate, when you do it it is "collateral damage". When we support dictatorial and tyrannical regime it is imperialism, when you do it it is "necessity". When we invade a country it is aggression, when you do it it is "liberation and intervention".

When we put a military base in a country near us it is return to Soviet times, when you do it it is "spreading the global security". Because our insurgent enemies are guerrillas or freedom fighters while your insurgent enemies are "terrorists". When we recognize a breakaway region of your ally it is preposterous and against international norms, when you do the same to our ally it is "choice of the people".

Equality comrade is what we want with you, whether equal friends or equal opponents, but equal nevertheless.

And if we agree to bend over Iran, then surely Saudi Arabia must be next to bend over da? They after all fulfill the role of villain like in a good movie.

I fully agree. "The world" judges RF a bit harsher than the others.

Now, RF - please stop threatening security of your neighbours and stop interfering in their affairs. Also putting an end to historical revisionism would be nice as well. Thx bye.

[Oklop]

I fully agree. "The world" judges RF a bit harsher than the others.

Da, comrade. you are right there. Although I beleive it is more than a "bit" harsher judgment.

Now, RF - please stop threatening security of your neighbours and stop interfering in their affairs.

We do not interfere in our neighbors affairs nor we threaten invasion as long as their actions do not threaten our security and/or interests, just like any other powerful country ever.

Or perhaps it is only permissible to interfere with countries that are not on your border hmm? The "leader of the free world" interferes in many regions all over the world and it is all "for the better future and global security" right?

Also putting an end to historical revisionism would be nice as well. Thx bye.

You got me there. But there is quite a bit of historical revisionism from the "good and democratic" side of the world too, although not as much as from our glorious motherlands leaders.

Damnit, I started thinking in Russian villain accent.

[cenkiss]

Heavy Russian accent:

Because comrade, when we extract information it is torture, when you do it it is "enhanced interrogation technique". When we accidentally bomb civilians it is deliberate, when you do it it is "collateral damage". When we support dictatorial and tyrannical regime it is imperialism, when you do it it is "necessity". When we invade a country it is aggression, when you do it it is "liberation and intervention".

When we put a military base in a country near us it is return to Soviet times, when you do it it is "spreading the global security". Because our insurgent enemies are guerrillas or freedom fighters while your insurgent enemies are "terrorists". When we recognize a breakaway region of your ally it is preposterous and against international norms, when you do the same to our ally it is "choice of the people".

Equality comrade is what we want with you, whether equal friends or equal opponents, but equal nevertheless.

And if we agree to bend over Iran, then surely Saudi Arabia must be next to bend over da? They after all fulfill the role of villain like in a good movie.

Nice.

[rusina]

Heavy Russian accent:

Because comrade, when we extract information it is torture, when you do it it is "enhanced interrogation technique". When we accidentally bomb civilians it is deliberate, when you do it it is "collateral damage". When we support dictatorial and tyrannical regime it is imperialism, when you do it it is "necessity". When we invade a country it is aggression, when you do it it is "liberation and intervention".

When we put a military base in a country near us it is return to Soviet times, when you do it it is "spreading the global security". Because our insurgent enemies are guerrillas or freedom fighters while your insurgent enemies are "terrorists". When we recognize a breakaway region of your ally it is preposterous and against international norms, when you do the same to our ally it is "choice of the people".

Equality comrade is what we want with you, whether equal friends or equal opponents, but equal nevertheless.

And if we agree to bend over Iran, then surely Saudi Arabia must be next to bend over da? They after all fulfill the role of villain like in a good movie.

+ rep.

[Angrychris]

The ice has to poop some where.

[Strelok]

Removing the term "second-world" would be nice, too.

[knight of virtue and valor]

the way I see it, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, and so as long as we can team up for a world without an idiot saying he will nuke everyone who is not Islamic and no rag heads flying into our buildings, I have no problem with Russia.

[Armenum]

the way I see it, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, and so as long as we can team up for a world without an idiot saying he will nuke everyone who is not Islamic and no rag heads flying into our buildings, I have no problem with Russia.

Russia has effectively defeated the Chechen Muslim terrorists in Chechnya region. But you must remember, even a country like Russia will do what is best for them even if it means being friends with Muslim extremists and Islamic states. (unfortunately...)

[knight of virtue and valor]

Russia has effectively defeated the Chechen Muslim terrorists in Chechnya region. But you must remember, even a country like Russia will do what is best for them even if it means being friends with Muslim extremists and Islamic states. (unfortunately...)

I know I know, but it is in the Islamic Extremists mandate to get the whole world to become a pan-islamic Caliphate, and I don't think either the people or the leaders of Russia would appreciate that.

[Stavroforos]

The West has a traditional dislike / distrust of Russia, especially the British and the Americans, even the Canadians. It's pretty stupid considering Russia has saved Europe twice, but meh.

[Farnan]

The West has a traditional dislike / distrust of Russia, especially the British and the Americans, even the Canadians. It's pretty stupid considering Russia has saved Europe twice, but meh.

Twice?

Unless your counting Napoleon...

[The Noble Lord]

Doesn't matter if there is a dislike now, they will be together because EU needs Russia in a same way as Russia needs EU. The continental bloc of Europe and Russia is the answer!

[KayRim]

The West has a traditional dislike / distrust of Russia, especially the British and the Americans, even the Canadians. It's pretty stupid considering Russia has saved Europe twice, but meh.

I'm assuming that one of those two occasions in which Russia 'saved' Europe was WW2, correct? That hilarious. Russia was all too happy slicing Poland in two to share with the Germans as well as invading Finland. They only joined the War against Germany after being attacked themselves.

[Stavroforos]

Twice?

Unless your counting Napoleon...

I'm counting Napoleon because Britons consider him bad. I'm not using my own standards, otherwise I would have only stated WWII.

I'm assuming that one of those two occasions in which Russia 'saved' Europe was WW2, correct? That hilarious. Russia was all too happy slicing Poland in two to share with the Germans as well as invading Finland. They only joined the War against Germany after being attacked themselves.

Yeah, better a Soviet Eastern Europe than a Nazi dominated Europe.

[Stark of Winterfell]

I'm assuming that one of those two occasions in which Russia 'saved' Europe was WW2, correct? That hilarious. Russia was all too happy slicing Poland in two to share with the Germans as well as invading Finland. They only joined the War against Germany after being attacked themselves.

You know Stalin wanted to resist Nazi Germany for most of the 30s right-Popular Front ring any bells? He actually supported the anti-fascist communists in the Spanish Civil War. The only problem is that he refused to do anything until France did. So when France abandoned the Czechs Stalin decided that maybe it would be wise to be friends with Germany instead. I can't say I know Stalin well, but I wouldn't be surprised if his only reason for wanting the Baltic states and part of Poland was to put more room between Germany and the Russian heartland.

[Heathen Hammer]

You know Stalin wanted to resist Nazi Germany for most of the 30s right-Popular Front ring any bells? He actually supported the anti-fascist communists in the Spanish Civil War. The only problem is that he refused to do anything until France did. So when France abandoned the Czechs Stalin decided that maybe it would be wise to be friends with Germany instead. I can't say I know Stalin well, but I wouldn't be surprised if his only reason for wanting the Baltic states and part of Poland was to put more room between Germany and the Russian heartland.

Exactly. West is very eager to remember MR pact, but keeps forgetting how England and other western countries appeased Nazi Germany as well.

I think that the whole hate and distrust towards Russians lies in the fact that they, while being European by ethnicity, have always chosen to be independent from the West in many ways. Today, Western media is generally rusophobic because Russia is the only country, which is capable of destroying NATO, while it holds a lot of resources without a desire to share access to them. Even if Russia was a beacon of freedom and democracy in reality, it would still be a bad boy for the West if it remains independent from its political will.

[Holger Danske]

The West has a traditional dislike / distrust of Russia, especially the British and the Americans, even the Canadians. It's pretty stupid considering Russia has saved Europe twice, but meh.

Saved Europe? I bet a lot of Eastern Europeans would have a different say in that matter. Half a century of communist authoratism isn't liberation. They simply replaced one evil with another. I'll give it to them that the annihilation of Napoleons Grande Armée was a good thing.