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    And no I don't mean the 18 year old guy who had sex with his 17 year old girlfriend. I mean the 40 year olds who have sex with 10 year olds.

    They are a serious threat to public safety. The re-offence rate is over 98%. The tiny minority who do not re-offend do so only because they fear repurcussions or do not get the oppurtunity.

    So should they be imprisoned for life? Executed? Or moved into some specially built town for pedos that they can't leave and that children don't go near?

    They can never be cured anyway, no more than can you make a straight person gay or vice versa.

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    Chemical castration, in the more extreme cases, aswell as incarceration and attempted rehabilitation (everyone deserves a chance).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-hereticK View Post
    Chemical castration
    many of them say it helps a great deal
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    attempted rehabilitation (everyone deserves a chance).
    that's where the isolated town thing comes in.

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    Castration in any form has been proven not to stop reoffending - abuse can happen without the person being sexually capable.

    They should be removed from society. A serious amount of funding should be appropriated and we should be studying the brain more than we are now. Not necessarily paedophilia, general study of the brain will unlock vast amounts of information which will incidentally probably give us insight into this condition as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane! View Post
    Castration in any form has been proven not to stop reoffending - abuse can happen without the person being sexually capable..
    Yeah, but it surely reduces re-offendings. Strict observation coupled with the social stigma of publically being labelled as a pedophile should be enough to reduce it to practically zero.

    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane! View Post
    They should be removed from society. A serious amount of funding should be appropriated and we should be studying the brain more than we are now. Not necessarily paedophilia, general study of the brain will unlock vast amounts of information which will incidentally probably give us insight into this condition as well.
    That is truly what is needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-hereticK View Post
    Yeah, but it surely reduces re-offendings. Strict observation coupled with the social stigma of publically being labelled as a pedophile should be enough to reduce it to practically zero.



    That is truly what is needed.
    I'd have to look into it but I'm fairly certain it hasn't been proven effective. Not only that I can't condone initiating such an extreme level of violence upon a person I judge to be mentally ill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane! View Post
    I'd have to look into it but I'm fairly certain it hasn't been proven effective. Not only that I can't condone initiating such an extreme level of violence upon a person I judge to be mentally ill.
    Oh yeah, that is another facet, the question of free will in the act.
    Goddam, this is a toughy.

    We could put their rehabilitation center in the juvinal detention center, hitting two birds with one stone, so to speak. Pedos get stabbed occasionally and little get raped, win win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane! View Post
    I'd have to look into it but I'm fairly certain it hasn't been proven effective.
    it doesn't stop reoffending, it just reduces it by a small amount. Some say it helps, others don't care.

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    I have a great interest in law, and concerning this, our only hope and way we could find justice in pedophiles within the constitution is many. I do not support death for pedophiles. I also do not support life sentences. The life sentence is only appropriate in some cases, where the court consider's the evidence, and is sure the victim of the sexual abuse, was harmed greatly or until death. Death is not appropriate for any type of crime, unless it's terrorism, mass murder, or a repeated murdering offender. Pedophiles, in my opinion should be, in my own world, at maximum be sentenced to 20 year's, while a mandatory minimum sentence of 5 year's, regarding the factor's of what happened, the court could decide to change the minimum sentence when they look at it from de nova. Then after that, the probation and rehabilitation of the offender would be appropriate. As somebody above has stated, chemical castration, often reduces any sexual desires, stopping them from most likley sexual abuse. Abuse of other kind's, not regarding a children sexually, in this case does not matter. Plus the added weight of rehabilitation, would surely stop them most likley from future event's. But if a repeat offense is done, the court should, in my opinion, sentence the pedophile to a minimum mandatory sentence of 10 year's, where the court can't go any lower, but no more then 35 year's. By that case, a person would be 75-90 year's old, in certain cases, and surely won't do anything wrong, since he would be also in probation.

    I do believe that not everyone can be cured from something, but 50/50 chance that someone would recover, either by the fear of incarceration, recovery, or anything else, and that right should be given to anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cool Story Brah View Post
    I do believe that not everyone can be cured from something, but 50/50 chance that someone would recover, either by the fear of incarceration, recovery, or anything else, and that right should be given to anyone.
    re-offence rate is almost 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by irelandeb View Post
    re-offence rate is almost 100%
    Source please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cool Story Brah View Post
    Source please.
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    I have pondered on this question for some time, but I think it's quite impossible to effectivly do anything substantial at the moment.

    I have really no data to suggest this, but future gene manipulation? Hmmm...
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    counselling, support groups, rehabilitation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane
    They should be removed from society. A serious amount of funding should be appropriated and we should be studying the brain more than we are now. Not necessarily paedophilia, general study of the brain will unlock vast amounts of information which will incidentally probably give us insight into this condition as well.
    This is pretty much right on. Pedophiles have been shown to generally exhibit a range of cognitive problems and difficulty relating to other people. I agree with Ferrets in another thread where he said that celibacy can cause Pedophilia. A recent detractor from the Catholic priesthood said that a lot of younger priests subdue their sex drive and when it finally manages to surface they retreat to an earlier stage in their development and a psychiatrist in the article seemed to be agreeing with him.

    We should put a lot more emphasis on "blue sky" research. With the rise of India and China scientific research is going to receive a further boost. But as a percentage of GDP we're still on using about 2.5% in OECD countries. The sooner we can crack the Quantum Computer, computer processing power will increase quicker than it ever has before. Genetic expression, and complex interactions of the proteins therein requires huge amounts of processing to model. So the quicker we can model these things the quicker we can actually help people in ways we've never been able to before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by handsome pete View Post
    This is pretty much right on. Pedophiles have been shown to generally exhibit a range of cognitive problems and difficulty relating to other people. I agree with Ferrets in another thread where he said that celibacy can cause Pedophilia. A recent detractor from the Catholic priesthood said that a lot of younger priests subdue their sex drive and when it finally manages to surface they retreat to an earlier stage in their development and a psychiatrist in the article seemed to be agreeing with him.
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    intriguing
    can u hook me up with some sources?>

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    Quote Originally Posted by handsome pete View Post
    This is pretty much right on. Pedophiles have been shown to generally exhibit a range of cognitive problems and difficulty relating to other people. I agree with Ferrets in another thread where he said that celibacy can cause Pedophilia. A recent detractor from the Catholic priesthood said that a lot of younger priests subdue their sex drive and when it finally manages to surface they retreat to an earlier stage in their development and a psychiatrist in the article seemed to be agreeing with him.

    We should put a lot more emphasis on "blue sky" research. With the rise of India and China scientific research is going to receive a further boost. But as a percentage of GDP we're still on using about 2.5% in OECD countries. The sooner we can crack the Quantum Computer, computer processing power will increase quicker than it ever has before. Genetic expression, and complex interactions of the proteins therein requires huge amounts of processing to model. So the quicker we can model these things the quicker we can actually help people in ways we've never been able to before.
    Ahh if only the country was filled with opinions like this instead of the majority of this thread which is more of the fire and brimstone variety we'd possibly see progress in a much shorter time.

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    Re: the O.P. ... they should be thrown in a fire with the deformed babies.

    Any quick death such as that is preferable to the years of tortured to be inflicted on them by gene-splicing and God-playing technocrats, with their endless theories and experiments. What evil horror is to be put on these poor people by busybodies in the far future, when we might regularly change D.N.A. and aspects of individual personality? I'd rather die in my criminal sin than be subject to some moralist poking about in my brain to change essential aspects of my humanity. God, what sorrow and vile things we can think of in revenge!
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    it's a risk we have to take. but the alternative, what we have now is so much bleaker. to think we live in world where one out of three girls are sexually abused and one out of five boys. there's something fundamentally wrong with a species that does that to it's self.
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    Why not execute them? If they really can't be cured, then why waste money on something society won't miss at all?


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