World War II : Total War

[Lord_sgmorris]

World War II : Total War
Would Make A GOOD GAME ME THINKS

[empr guy]

Well, it could Potentionaly make a good game, but if they go that route, they will need to do WWI total war first, so they can try out machanices for tanks and planes while they werent vital and wouldnt break the game so much if they end up bad.

still, a good TW game is a good TW game

[Nevins]

The problem is that any start date following the late 20's will very much force the player into a particular strategy. It just doesn't have the kind of open playground that I usually associate with the TW games, Napoleon being the exception to this rule.

Plus the battle system would have to be dramatically retooled to more resemble Company of Heroes.

[Lord_sgmorris]

true , i am a big ww2 fan rome : total war
for one brought attention of that era to me and i have learned a lot about the roman empire since i started playing and looking up it's history..
i am in search of a ww2 game like rome:total war . with the same control and building empire ability

i hope they work there way up to WW1 , WW2
i look forward to it

[Goofy]

M2TW's - or any other Total War version's - game engine won't support that kind of mod.

I'd say that the last era TW game engine can support is something around 1800 AD.

[Killerbee]

*sigh*

Some things will never change

[Lord_sgmorris]

not talking about a mod talking about A new Game rome total war style .
never said mod

[Killerbee]

not talking about a mod talking about A new Game rome total war style .
never said mod

that's also been proposed a few times

[James Cook]

that's also been proposed a few times

epic fail

[ghostinthemaxim]

@ nevins: exactly...

@ Da Goofy: Game engines can change. However, I'd still agree: Especially WW1 warfare (massive arti fire, gas warfare, trenches, trenches, barbed wire, trenches, ... and winning a couple of hundred yards of ground) seems very hard to be put on screen in a realistic and entertaining way. There is a reason why there aren't that many WW1 games on the market.

@ Jeskyre: True, but even if the Asian gaming market is growing: I doubt a TW title published for pc alone with a Chinese, Indian medieval(?) setting will sell well enough to please SEGA.


On the other hand: Who would have thought that a game like STW would kick ass? If there's a dev team that can bring a setting on screen in a cool way, that would be CA...

[Mikelus Trento]

This will never work, and the reason is the game engine. Prior to the appearance of "automatic" weapons
(eg, gatling guns, later machine guns) the most practical, efficient way to get the most gain from your armies was to line them up opposite each other and go at it. The TW engine simulates this style of line to line warfare quite well, imo.

But that method of warfare was disappearing after the American Civil War. It was just too costly to charge a position that featured "automatic" weapons. New tactics evolved (eg, blitzkrieg), new weapons evolved (tanks and air warfare) that forever doomed the use of masses of men.

TW will not work in a setting beyond the American Civil War.

[S-te-Fan]

No... just no...

[LOTR-MOD]

yes it could work an at some point they will do it they can't just keep makeing part 2 and 3 of evary tw game yes it going to take some work to do it right and imo they should make ww2 after they do ww1 total war

[Jeskyre]

yes it could work an at some point they will do it they can't just keep makeing part 2 and 3 of evary tw game yes it going to take some work to do it right and imo they should make ww2 after they do ww1 total war

In order to make it work, they'd have to change the battle styles so much that it would no longer resemble a TW game.

If you want a WWII strategy game, play Company of Heroes of Men of War. They both get pretty close to actual WWII tactics.

I also think there's more than enough material to keep the Total War series busy without going past the 1800's. The series hasn't even really touched on Indian and Chinese history, which have a lot of potential.

[James Cook]

I could allready now imagine that you start as germany, and the first thing you build is roads, farms and markets then yor baracks......

havent we enought ww2 games allready, to be honest pls dont CA I beg you

[Cornelius Plautus]

Total War games, in my opinion, should never have automatic weapons. (Unless, maybe they were to make a British Empire game, during the late stages of which the player could acquire one or two Maxim Machine Guns), as they go against many of Total War's preconceived game play concepts. To be honest, I'm not really comfortable with Empire and Napoleon myself. Then, I've always been one for ancient history, so perhaps I'm a bit biased.

Additionally, I don't see how the campaign map would work; when a city was captured during World War II, the invaders certainly didn't plan any big civilian construction efforts, and certainly didn't train units in those cities. I think that if they make too many more changes to game play in the future, we will no longer have Total War, but rather something completely (and horribly) wrong.

On a slightly off-topic note, I'd much rather see a Rome 2: Total War.

[Garnier]

The whole essence of Total War doesn't work right past the 16th century at the latest. There are plenty of other games that are suited to WW2, Total War isn't one of them.

[Graphic]

The changes they'd have to make to the TW formula would be so far reaching that it wouldn't even resemble TW anymore. Maybe they could put the Australian studio on making an entirely new TW-ish franchise for modern warfare, but I don't like the idea of fouling up the core series for it. 1914 is as far as the series can go IMO.

There's also the issue of clicking on your ministers tab as Nazi Germany and seeing a gallery of some of the most terrible human beings who have ever walked the earth. It's fine on more "zoomed in" games like Company of Heroes that only has you focusing on combat tactics, but empire managing the worst regime in history from the top down would just be...tasteless.

"Yay, only three turns until my Nazi scholor finishes researching Jewish Slave Labor tech. -1 turn for all build times!

Awesome, Heinrich Himmler just got a new mistress; +2 to lower class happiness!"

Mehhhh.

[NewUser]

IMO, the medieval setting was the perfect setting for the TW engine. I think they should try one that combines the periods of Rome and the Medieval age. Plus implement some good things in the newer titles (ETW NTW) but keep some stuff from MTW2 as well. Also, they could add in tech lines, and the ability for your nation to change the size of religions (like expanding Ile-de-France) to the size of the whole Country. Which will allow that single settlement to gain bonuses while others suffer.

[Heavy Weapons Guy]

WW2 would be cool!!!! YEEAHHH!!!!!