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    Default Kingdom of Doclea- was it croat or serbian state or something else

    well i have few posts in "Albanian history myth"

    question is simple, was Doclea serbian, croatian or some other slavic state

    in several byzantin sources Docleans are also called Serbs, as well Croats
    politicly they were neither, i believe
    what about ethnicly?
    im hoping for objective responds from people who know what they are talking about, who know sources and can discuss this objectivly

    Doclea


    Duklja Duklja (Latin: Doclea or Dioclea, after the town of Dioclea) was a small medieval state located in today's Montenegro and northern Albania including the city of Skadar.
    "Doclea" the name of the region during the early period of the Roman Empire, was termed for an early Illyrian tribe. In later centuries, Romans "hyper-corrected" to "Dioclea" wrongly guessing that an "I" had been lost due to vulgar speech patterns. "Duklja" is the later Slavic version of that word.

    It was one of the four southern Dalmatian Slavic duchies, other three being Narenta (Pagania), Zahumlje and Travunia that weren't united under either Croatia to the northwest or Rascia (Serbia) to the northeast.

    well let debating begin

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    Default Re: Kingdom of Doclea- was it croat or serbian state or something else

    Why should it be so simple?
    Only states which were Croatian and Serbian were Croatia and Rascia. All others were different Slavic states which would produce completely unique nationalities if they survived. But they didn't.
    They were assimilated by Croats and Serbs, and Dioclea (or area of modern Montenegro) was partially assimilated by Serbs. However, a part of population retained separate identity, and part considers Montenegrin to be same as Serb or subgroup. Which is interesting because they were of same religion as Serbs. As to why and how this happened... I can not guess, I, unfortunately and shamefully, know too little about Montenegrin history.
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    Default Re: Kingdom of Doclea- was it croat or serbian state or something else

    Red croatia- Rubea Croatia as Doclea being croat state
    and for serb state, well Serbs often claim that Doclea was serbian state

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