Almost Unbeatable formations

[Valmir238]

There are but a few formations in RTW that are almost unbeatable, but have one achilles heel. One of the best i've found is to form four units of Hoplites into a square, the cavalry get slaughtered and so do the oncoming waves of infantry. But is is extremly vulnerable to skirmishers and archers, as are hoplites anyway, and you can't attack with this formation. I was wondering if anyone has any other unbeatable formations, for any other troops apart from hoplites, because i'm getting kind of sick of playing as Greek.

[{GrailKnight}]

There are but a few formations in RTW that are almost unbeatable, but have one achilles heel. One of the best i've found is to form four units of Hoplites into a square, the cavalry get slaughtered and so do the oncoming waves of infantry. But is is extremly vulnerable to skirmishers and archers, as are hoplites anyway, and you can't attack with this formation. I was wondering if anyone has any other unbeatable formations, for any other troops apart from hoplites, because i'm getting kind of sick of playing as Greek.

Four units of Hoplite in a square= Noob box lol, this formation is probably the easiest to beat, i wouldn't recommend this formation lol . If you are sick of playing as Greeks play as another faction.

[Chris Death]

Actually it's very useful against the fearfull Testudo square.

~S~ CD

[Rilsaur]

Actually it's very useful against the fearfull Testudo square.

~S~ CD

I've never come across someone stupid enough to use a Testudo square, that would leave them extremely vulnerable to a cavalry or shock infantry charge

[Chris Death]

I've never come across someone stupid enough to use a Testudo square, that would leave them extremely vulnerable to a cavalry or shock infantry charge

Well, that was the point

~S~ CD

[|Sith| Max]

There are but a few formations in RTW that are almost unbeatable, but have one achilles heel. One of the best i've found is to form four units of Hoplites into a square, the cavalry get slaughtered and so do the oncoming waves of infantry. But is is extremly vulnerable to skirmishers and archers, as are hoplites anyway, and you can't attack with this formation. I was wondering if anyone has any other unbeatable formations, for any other troops apart from hoplites, because i'm getting kind of sick of playing as Greek.

God not another noob box thread
Dude seriously the next time i see the clanless use one of these in the MP i am going to report you for ruining a good game by taking away the challenge.

[{GrailKnight}]

God not another noob box thread
Dude seriously the next time i see the clanless use one of these in the MP i am going to report you for ruining a good game by taking away the challenge.

It'll never go away.....

[Valmir238]

Well i guess im just not very tactical, what do you use?

[|Sith| Max]

Well i guess im just not very tactical, what do you use?

Do not get me wrong: for campaign noob box works fine but on MP it is a death sentence. Overall good mp players do not use a fixed formation of infantry , but a mixed force of hvy and lightcav, ranged troops, inf and HA. They operate flexibly and not in fixed formations taking advantage of the mobility and range of cav n arch while only using inf to protect archers or hold the enemy inf. Fixed lines make you vulnerable and taking the initiative is crucial. Ofcourse after about a thousand matches in mp you will understand that.

The only point I am stating is that as the POM fanboy said even a decent player can think of ways to kill a noob box. You are certainly not a noob for using a box in campaign but it just won't work on mp. I am sure you know this but I am just saying it before lesser players try doing one in mp

[Valmir238]

lol i've only tried it on campaign.

[Giallo Antico]

the best formation is to have a double lined hoplites, 1 unit of Cretan archers behind, and one or two units of heavy cavalry at rear or fank.

[leseras]

LOL that noob box! I saw prince_of_macedon fighting one with 5 upgraded spartans and he owned with barely any losses! On mp btw. As for what formations are good, I think I saw one in a video. He marched with four different groups. One with 3 units of calvary, and the others each with a calvary, infantry and a peltast. He surronded the enemy (mp) pretty easily and crushed him.

[|Sith| Max]

you wanna keep it that way, warning you in advance ^^

[leseras]

Yup noob box only works in campaign....unless you're fighting scythia or egypt with their bloody missile calvary. Alright in actual fact sith is right about MP, no such thing as fixed formations in MP, just improvisation. Cause you will never know what kinda thing your opponent is going to do.

[|Sith| Max]

Yup noob box only works in campaign....unless you're fighting scythia or egypt with their bloody missile calvary. Alright in actual fact sith is right about MP, no such thing as fixed formations in MP, just improvisation. Cause you will never know what kinda thing your opponent is going to do.

After 4 years and over 9000( http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Over_9000 ) games played it would be a crying shame if i didnt know anything about mp, dont you agree?

[Dave Strider]

I have found that the Roman Checkerboard formation works very well.

[|Sith|Galvanized Iron]

I have found that the Roman Checkerboard formation works very well.

Yes it works very well if you want your isolated cohorts to get smacked by cavalry.

[Argeus the Paladin]

I didn't watch PoM play that match, so how did he do beat that formation?

And is it possible to place archers inside a noob box to make it into somewhat of an impenetrable fortress?

(I'm trying to incorporate something like this into my novel, so I want to know whether it can work in real life or not)

EDIT: Disregard that last one. I've found the answer as to why.

[Entropy Judge]

I didn't watch PoM play that match, so how did he do beat that formation?
And is it possible to place archers inside a noob box to make it into somewhat of an impenetrable fortress?
(I'm trying to incorporate something like this into my novel, so I want to know whether it can work in real life or not)
EDIT: Disregard that last one. I've found the answer as to why.

Been a long time since I've watched it, but IIRC he used his archers to shoot at the backs of the rear formation until he ran out of arrows, cracked that wall and then swarmed the remaining units.

[empr guy]

And is it possible to place archers inside a noob box to make it into somewhat of an impenetrable fortress?
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this reminds me of a match were i was playing scythia against macedon, where the macidonian made a huge noob box full of createns and a catapult. After killing all his archers (idk why, but i left his catapult alive) i was resting my troops and attacking his weakest flank with calvary archers, when he turned his catapult back to auto fire, and the first shot slammed into the ground directly infront of it.

The unit it hit took huge losses and routed, making a huge hole in his box, and my maidens started to pour in. Everytime one of his units routed, another wave of calvary hit his flank.. it was beautiful lol