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    Iran Jundullah leader claims US military support


    Mr Rigi is said to be behind a series of deadly bombings in south-east Iran

    Iranian state television has broadcast a statement by a captured Sunni rebel leader in which he alleges he received support from the United States.
    It is not possible to say whether Abdolmalek Rigi made the statement freely or under duress.
    The US has denied having links with Mr Rigi's group, Jundullah.
    In the tape, Mr Rigi alleged that the US had promised to provide his group with military equipment and a base in Afghanistan, near the Iranian border.
    He says he was on his way to a meeting with a "high-ranking person" at the Manas US military base in Kyrgyzstan when he was captured.
    Jundullah has launched several deadly attacks in recent years in the south-east of Iran in protest at the discrimination of Sunni minorities in Iran.
    The attacks include the killing of six senior commanders of Iran's elite Revolutionary Guard in October.



    'American promises'
    The taped statement was aired on Iran's state-run English-language channel, Press TV.

    In it, Mr Rigi said the initial US contact was made after US President Barack Obama was elected in November 2008 and took place through a person in Quetta, Pakistan.
    "The Americans said... that we don't have a problem with al-Qaeda or the Taliban, but the problem is Iran and we don't have a military programme against Iran."
    The rebel leader claimed that he was promised US support to launch attacks on Iran in return for the release of Jundullah prisoners.
    "They [Americans] promised to help us and they said that they would co-operate with us, free our prisoners and would give us [Jundullah] military equipment, bombs, machine guns, and they would give us a base," he alleged, in translated comments provided by the Press TV.
    Predominantly Shia Iran has linked Jundullah to the Sunni Islamist al-Qaeda network and accuses Pakistan, Britain and the US of backing the group to destabilise the country. They deny the accusation.
    Jundullah was founded in 2002 to defend the Baluchi minority in the poor, remote and lawless region of south-east Iran.
    Mr Rigi has claimed in the past that the group does not seek to break away from Iran but that violence is necessary to draw attention to discrimination.


    Alleged international support

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    A report by Brian Ross and Christopher Isham of ABC News in April 2007 alleged that Jundallah "has been secretly encouraged and advised by American officials" to destabilize the government in Iran,[23] citing U.S. and Pakistani tribal and intelligence sources.[11] The report alleges that U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney discussed the activity of the group against Iran during his visit to Pakistan.[11] In a blog, the network stated that the support was believed to have started in 2005 and been arranged so that the U.S. provided no direct funding to the group, which would require congressional oversight and attract media attention, drawing parallels between American support for Jundallah and U.S. involvement in Nicaragua in the Iran-Contra Affair.[24]
    The report was denied by Pakistan official sources.[25] But despite their denial ABC stood by their claim.[26] Alexis Debat, one of the sources quoted by Ross and Isham in their report alleging US support for the Jundullah, resigned from ABC News in June 2007, after ABC officials claimed that he faked several interviews while working for the company.[27] Ross went on to say the Jundullah story had many sources, adding, "We’re only worried about the things Debat supplied, not about the substance of that story." According to Ross, ABC had found nothing that would undermine the stories Mr. Debat worked on. However, he acknowledged that as the stories of fabrications continue to roll in, the network "at some point has to question whether anything he said can be believed."[28] This caused the network in 2007 to send a second team of producers to Pakistan investigating the original reports.[26]
    Fars News Agency, an Iranian state run news agency, reported that the United States government is involved in PRMI's terrorists acts.[29]
    Gholamali Haddadadel, Iranian parliament speaker in 2007, speaking to reporters said, Jundallah is part of pressure tactics used by United States to subdue Iran and hoped with Pakistani help, Iran would be able to defeat Jundallah.[30]
    On April 2, 2007, Abdolmalek Rigi appeared on the Persian service of Voice of America, the official broadcasting service of the United States government, which identified Rigi as "the leader of popular Iranian resistance movement" and used the title of "Doctor" with his name. This incidence resulted in public condemnation by the Iranian-American community in the U.S, many of whom are opponents of the Iranian government, as well as the Iranian government.[31][32][33][34][35][36][37][38]
    Investigative journalist Seymour Hersh revealed another report in July 2008 that US congressional leaders had secretly agreed to former president George W. Bush's USD 400 million funding request, which gives the US a free hand in arming and funding terrorist groups such as Jundullah militants.[23]
    Iranian speaker of parliament Ali Larijani, three days after the 2009 terror attack against Zahidan mosque revealed, that Iran had intelligence reports regarding the United States links with certain terrorist groups operating against Iran and accused the United States, of commanding them. He implicated the United States in trying to start a civil war between Shia and Sunni segments of Iranian society.[39][39] Regarding the investigation of the terrorist act he added that Iran would want Pakistan to cooperate fully and not become a mere part of the designs against Iran.[40]
    According to The Daily Telegraph Jundallah is just one part of a Black Operation Plan involving psychological operations and other covert operations to support dissents among minorities (Baloch, Arab, Kurds, Azeris, etc.) in Iran, which along with tactics of military posturing, risky maneuvers and occasional conciliatory gestures are designed to improve United States bargaining position in any future negotiation with Iran.[8][11][11][41] Furthermore these Black Operations build upon a coordinated campaign consisting of disinformation, placement of negative newspaper articles, propaganda broadcasts, the manipulation of Iran's monetary currency and international banking transactions.[8][42][43]
    Iranian Interior Minister Mostafa Pour-Mohammadi, has said, United States intelligence operatives have been meeting and coordinating with Anti-Iranian militants in Afghanistan as well as encouraging drug smuggling into Iran.[39] Jundallah is currently not included in the U.S. State Department’s list of foreign designated terrorist groups. Inclusion on the list would prohibit US citizens, companies, or government agencies from supporting the group, and trigger criminal or civil penalties for doing so.[44][45] A former Chief of Army Staff of the Pakistan Army General Aslam Beg has accused the Coalition Forces in Afghanistan of training and supporting Jundallah against Iran.[46]
    After Rigi was arrested on 23 February 2010 Iran's intelligence minister Heydar Moslehi at a press conference in Tehran claimed that Rigi had been at a US base in Afghanistan 24 hours before his arrest. At a press conference he flourished a photograph which he said showed Rigi outside the base with two other men, though he gave no details of where the base was, or how or when the photograph was obtained. Photographs were also shown of an Afghan passport and identity card said to have been given by the Americans to Rigi. Moslehi also alleged that Rigi had met the then NATO secretary-general, Jaap de Hoop Scheffer, in Afghanistan in 2008, and had visited European countries. He said agents had tracked Rigi's movements for five months, calling his arrest "a great defeat for the US and UK".[47]
    On February 25 Iranian state television broadcast a statement by Rigi stating he had had American support and that
    "The Americans said Iran was going its own way and they said our problem at the present is Iran… not al-Qaeda and not the Taliban, but the main problem is Iran. We don't have a military plan against Iran. Attacking Iran is very difficult for us (the US). They [Americans] promised to help us and they said that they would co-operate with us, free our prisoners and would give us [Jundullah] military equipment, bombs, machine guns, and they would give us a base.
    BBC News carried a report on the statements, noting that "It is not possible to say whether Abdolmalek Rigi made the statement freely or under duress." The US has denied having links with Rigi's group, Jundullah.[48][49]. Reuters also reported that Geoff Morrell, Pentagon press secretary, dismissed claims by the Iranian government that Mr. Rigi had been at an American military base just before his arrest. Morrell called the accusations of American involvement “nothing more than Iranian propaganda.” [50]
    [edit] Saudi Arabia

    Iran considers Jundallah as a group connected to Taliban and their opium revenues, getting financial as well as ideologic support directly from Saudi Arabia in collusion with ISI as well as other hard-line elements within Pakistan and Afghanistan. Others point to the fact that United States has for long supported Low intensity conflict and assassinations with Saudi money, especially against nationalists, socialists and Shias.[44][51][52][53]
    [edit] Sweden

    American journalist Dan Rather has traveled to Pakistan, United Arab Emirates, Sweden and France investigating Jundallah and its funding sources. On the US cable channel HDnet's television news magazine Dan Rather Reports, he indicated that support comes from Balochis in Sweden where Radio Baloch FM is broadcast from Stockholm.[18][54][55]
    [edit] United Kingdom

    Iranian authorities also blame United Kingdom for supporting Jundallah.[56][57] In BBC production "Panorama: Obama and the Ayatollah", a terrorist organisation which has carried out acts of terror leading to death of civilians and children in Iran is briefly mentioned but not named, with the official prosecution files and their Interpol warrants blacked out in video. The international warrants call for their arrest under international anti-terrorism laws, which has not happened and Tehran blames western governments particularly British government for protecting them from an international arrest.[58]
    [edit] Pakistan

    Hossein Ali Shahriari, Zahedan's representative in parliament, rhetorically asked, "Why does our diplomatic apparatus not seriously confront the Pakistani government for harboring bandits and regime's enemies? Why do security, military and police officials not take more serious action?".[59] It has been claimed, Jundallah can not operate with at least some degree of support from within Pakistan and that elements from within Pakistani security establishment, particularly ISI with financial support of Saudi Arabia and its supplementation through the largest opium black market in the world have woven a complicated web of drug smugglers and terrorists to project power in the region and beyond.[15] General Hasan Firoozabadi of Iranian Army said, one of the main bases of Jundallah has been identified and pointed out to Pakistan and Iran is awaiting for Pakistan's action on the matter.[60] In a rare criticism Iranian Intelligence minister after the Saravan attack claimed Pakistan is not meaningfully cooperating with Iran on the issue of Jundallah.[61] At least some Iranian analysts believe this huge transnational web comprising of economic, political and military dimensions is ultimately being run by CIA (Special Activities Division), aiming to topple or at least weaken Iranian government; with Pakistan just being a pawn much like the earlier United States support for Mujahedin against Soviet Union with collaboration of Pakistan. These analysts believe the ideological element supporting Jundallah and similar groups come from religious madrassah's of Pakistan supported religiously and financially by Saudi Arabia.[39][44][62][63][64]


    If we look at past record of America, it is not strange as America has been overthrowing different Governments in different countries in favor of her interests. As far as Iran's allegations on Pakistan are concerned, as a Pakistani, I demand and wish impartial investigation of the matter and strict punishments to responsible persons. Again it is not strange for me because from many last years my country has been playing a role of American hit-man and just for the continuity of their luxuries and rule, our corrupt military and civilian Governments can do anything. One thing but creates a little problem, Jundullah is fighting for a piece of land for Balochs and Sunnis, which would include Pakistani and Iranian Baluchistan and some piece of land from Afghanistan, if it is true, why would we like to help such an organization?

    Your thoughts?
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    One can only hope
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    It is not strange that my thread is going answer less after many minutes of creating it. My previous thread about arrest news of that terrorist Rigi was also not replied. Looks like some people are in deep shock. This just unveils double standards of those who all the time shout from their asses when some alleged Muslim terrorism happens against them and now they are not answering a thread about their own sponsored terrorism and terrorists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poet View Post
    It is not strange that my thread is going answer less after many minutes of creating it. My previous thread about arrest news of that terrorist Rigi was also not replied. Looks like some people are in deep shock.
    No, they just like to ignore you.
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    I don't think our current foreign policy is proactive enough for that right now. Pitty.

    "has been secretly encouraged and advised by American officials" to destabilize the government in Iran,
    Yea, that will do it
    "When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."

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    Stopped reading after the bit where it was claimed that we don't care about al-Qaeda or the Taliban. Iranian propaganda is pretty sloppy.
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    No you stopped reading because you didn't want to read, what you were reading was against what is taught in your schools about the great land of free home of .
    "I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today." 'The Genuine Islam,' Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936.Sir George Bernard Shaw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poet View Post
    No you stopped reading because you didn't want to read, what you were reading was against what is taught in your schools about the great land of free home of .
    Oh buhoo, We all know Pakistan, or whatever sorry excuse of a country you come from is way better in every sense of the word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poet View Post
    No you stopped reading because you didn't want to read, what you were reading was against what is taught in your schools about the great land of free home of .
    Its better than what they teach at the madrassa. But to answer your questions, yes, I do ignore ridiculous assertions. Its startling that in these various threads you would sooner defend self proclaimed terrorists than the people fighting radical islam. Is it that you blindly support individuals who make it their goal to hurt innocents because they share your religion? That's really all I'm gleaning here. Please help me to understand why you hate America but trust terrorists.
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    I highly doubt this groups gets signifigant US support. But I would not be aganist it if they did...

    The attacks include the killing of six senior commanders of Iran's elite Revolutionary Guard in October
    Jundullah was founded in 2002 to defend the Baluchi minority in the poor, remote and lawless region of south-east Iran.
    Mr Rigi has claimed in the past that the group does not seek to break away from Iran but that violence is necessary to draw attention to discrimination.
    I think it's going to be necessary to work aganist the Iranian regime from within. I think it's only a matter of time before they crumble. Younger people in Iran are by and large not supportive of the government.


    So, Poet...you support the Iranian military dictatorship? You know, the one that tortures journalists while trying to get them to "confess" to being spies....

    The one that kills unarmed men and women on the streets...?

    The same regime that sends its Revolutionary Guard members to loot and destroy universities where some dissenters come from?

    Stopped reading after the bit where it was claimed that we don't care about al-Qaeda or the Taliban. Iranian propaganda is pretty sloppy.
    Yes, this is stupid. The Iranians love to try to "reveal" foreign support of the internal dissidents, even if it hasn't really come to pass yet.

    I have a perfect example....there was a Iranian journalist who worked for Newsweek that was arrested, and tortured on spying charges a few months ago. The IRG's case aganist him: he had been on the Daily Show talking to Ron Riggle who was doing a spoof segment pretending to be a CIA agent. The Iranians seriously believed that Riggle was a secret agent.
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    Your signature Proud American is enough because if you have such a signature you do not need to post filth any where on this forum. Jandullah is a terrorist organization and uses forceful means for it's purposes and you say that you should help them. Who gave land of the free, home of the a mandate to overthrow different governments in the world. Your country is the biggest home of terrorists. That organization has killed many innocent people in a mosque just a few months ago and you call them freedom fighters and you say you need to back them. Now we Muslims should open our eyes and see who are the behind Shia-Sunni riots and conflicts in middle east and whole Muslims world. I cannot control my self any more. No more words.
    "I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today." 'The Genuine Islam,' Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936.Sir George Bernard Shaw

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    Your signature Proud American is enough because if you have such a signature you do not need to post filth any where on this forum. Jandullah is a terrorist organization and uses forceful means for it's purposes and you say that you should help them. Who gave land of the free, home of the a mandate to overthrow different governments in the world. Your country is the biggest home of terrorists. That organization has killed many innocent people in a mosque just a few months ago and you call them freedom fighters and you say you need to back them. Now we Muslims should open our eyes and see who are the behind Shia-Sunni riots and conflicts in middle east and whole Muslims world. I cannot control my self any more. No more words.
    You didn't answer my question. Do you support the Iranian regime?

    Upon watching the video (I didn't, before...just read the article) it seems that this organization is just another facet of Muslim on Muslim violence. The BBC article made it sound like they were fighting aganist the Iranian regime first and foremost, but I guess this is not true. I take back what I said about not caring if the US were to support, bombing Mosques is clearly different than killing Revolutionary Guardsmen.

    But what I said was true, that Iran wants to tie the US in with its dissidents inside of Iran (to discredit them), but the US has not really done anything. No offical support of the Green movement, even. This seems to be more rantings of the fail Iranian propoganda machine.

    Who gave land of the free, home of the a mandate to overthrow different governments in the world
    As many of our resident right-wingers here would attest to, I'm not one to jump on board with everything the US government has done in the past. Clearly the US has made many poor choices of which regimes to support around the world, especially during the Cold War. I would argue that this created the problem with Iran in the first place. The current regime, which you seem to support, would not exist had it not been for western meddling in Iran during the 50's and the Shah.

    If you simply said "US involvement in our region has made life worse for everyone" I would agree with you.

    But I suspect that your defense of the Iranian regime has something to do with HAMAS, and the situation in Palestine in general. Being that Iran supports groups that have been inclined to use terrorism, and is far and away the #1 source of state sponsered terrorism regardless of what you think about the situation in Palestine. Personally I don't have very strong opinions on Palestine, although I think an Independent West Bank and Gaza would be a good thing I understand the other side of this as well.

    Just because our country has made mistakes in its foreign policy does not mean that I'm going to stop being a proud American. Deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poet View Post
    Now we Muslims should open our eyes and see who are the behind Shia-Sunni riots and conflicts in middle east and whole Muslims world. I cannot control my self any more. No more words.
    Michty me, sounds like you're going to go out and kill a bunch of Yanks. Might want to tone down the extremism a bit mate it's a tad unbecoming.

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    So now you blame the United States for the infightings between the Shia-Sunni muslims, which has been around for far longer than the existance of the US?

    Also, stop calling every American a terrorist when you can't even fathom the concept of terrorism and tell the difference between collateral damage and intentional targetting of civilians. You are making a fool out of yourself, and your co-believers...

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    So Jandullah bomb attack on a mosque is collateral damage? Furthermore everyone can see who is getting benefited from Jandullah's activities in Iran and Shia militants activities in Yemen. Yes the biggest rogue state of the world.
    "I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today." 'The Genuine Islam,' Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936.Sir George Bernard Shaw

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    Clearly the man was tortured and forced to give the statement under distress.....yes Im going to play that card just cause I find it amusing.

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    It would be awesome if that were true, alas...
    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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    It would be awesome if that were true, alas...
    I don't believe in poets , but if it were true, how is it a good thing? When is the murder of innocent people justified? They put a bomb in a crowded in a Shiite Mosque on a day they knew would be full of innocent people.

    It makes me sick when people try to justify terrorism.

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    People we are reading posts from people from a country of real terrorists. So it would be good if American funded terrorists blow mosques in Iran.
    "I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today." 'The Genuine Islam,' Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936.Sir George Bernard Shaw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poet View Post
    People we are reading posts from people from a country of real terrorists. So it would be good if American funded terrorists blow mosques in Iran.
    Yeah, theyr'e Americans, so theyr'e obviously lying. It's not that your'e targeting a nationality, though, it's just true and everything else is a lie.
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