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[Emperor Napolean Bonaparte IX]

i love this submod but is there a way to take out the recruitment part out of it ? so the recruit ment part is just like regular ss?

[bɑne]

I'm unclear on what exactly you want to remove... if you're really refering to all of the recruitment aspects then you'll mod far longer then you'll play, ctds included if you're new to this.

[Caesar Clivus]

Taking out RR would be a huge task. PB has made a LOT of changes to the EDB to implement historic recruitment times. To remove them would take a long time.

[JorisofHolland]

If you still want to do so, there are probably tutorials on EDB (export_descr_building.txt). Read through a few and you might get it working.
The most important things would be:
- Removing the event conditions
- Increasing the replenishment pools
- I think that's all, but I'm not certain

[Emperor Napolean Bonaparte IX]

thats it?

[bɑne]

thats it?

Your question makes it sound so simple... thats hundrets of lines of code.

[JorisofHolland]

Yes. But if you're skilled, it's only a few hours of working. Simply remove all the "and event .... ...." and increase all the replenishment pools by a certain factor (3? 4? I don't know). But then you'll have to change every recruitment pool for every building for every level. So this will still take quite some time.

[Caesar Clivus]

Yes. But if you're skilled, it's only a few hours of working. Simply remove all the "and event .... ...." and increase all the replenishment pools by a certain factor (3? 4? I don't know). But then you'll have to change every recruitment pool for every building for every level. So this will still take quite some time.

Not only that but RR has multiple recruitment pools for a single unit from the same building that are usually split by events. So you would have to make sure that each unit only has 1 recruit pool line in each building. Then you would have to delete the late era units from the earlier buildings. I would say it could turn out to be more than just a few hours work.

[bɑne]

Yes. But if you're skilled, it's only a few hours of working. Simply remove all the "and event .... ...."

Without the eventcontrol all units would be buildable at the start then triggering the mechanism that removes "old" units from the building recruitment pool resulting in an instant jump to the final units of the game with some weird remnants remaining. Or if this doesnt work the way I remember he'd be stuck with a few pages to scroll through in his recruitment screen but I thought that array to be limited. Correct me if I am wrong.

and increase all the replenishment pools by a certain factor (3? 4? I don't know). But then you'll have to change every recruitment pool for every building for every level. So this will still take quite some time.

0.1 replenishment means 10 turns to full unit if I remember correctly. Not to unbalance the game here you'd have to the somehow add up or guestimate the

multiple recruitment pools for a single unit from the same building that are usually split by events. So you would have to make sure that each unit only has 1 recruit pool line in each building.

And to prevent the above recruitment pool problem

you would have to delete the late era units from the earlier buildings. I would say it could turn out to be more than just a few hours work.

I'd estimate at least a day for that with lots of coffein and I would still expect some nice errors/unbalance to occur. Especially if the edb is as touchy in respect to errors as I remember it to be.

[Caesar Clivus]

Especially if the edb is as touchy in respect to errors as I remember it to be.

It is. Miss a space here or there and *poof* non-starting game. It still catches me out every now and again

[bɑne]

It is. Miss a space here or there and *poof* non-starting game. It still catches me out every now and again

I've used notepad++ for this in the past - someone know of a better tool also in respect to this issue?

[Shoryn]

Yes, I think with a txt-process program or with some search-replace it can be done in a couple hours, but in fact I think it would be quicker to install all the other mods together than to remove RR from the RR/RC compilation

[Emperor Napolean Bonaparte IX]

no ive once changed the edb before i changed it with kgcm becuase i didnt like the recruitment

[k/t]

I suggest installing SS and then changing the unit stats to those from the RC file. Of course, then you'd be without the rest of the stuff, like supplies, and...uh...the rest of it all. So you might be stuck with having to undo RR piece by piece.

[meese]

And you wouldn't be able to copy/paste because of new units so even that would be a manual process.

[Point Blank]

RR - making modding almost impossible since 2008.

[Point Blank]

It would be a massive task honestly.

[bɑne]

It would be a massive task honestly.

Your question makes it sound so simple... thats hundrets of lines of code.

I'm correcting my earlier statement - its 10642 lines in my outdated version. And after looking at the file forget about my at least 24h+ estimate, too.

[Emperor Napolean Bonaparte IX]

i want to do this because the turns take way to long and if it takes 16 turns for another unit of knights to come its kind of hard

what i want to do is make the recritment faster

[bɑne]

i love this submod but is there a way to take out the recruitment part out of it ? so the recruit ment part is just like regular ss?

I'm unclear on what exactly you want to remove... if you're really refering to all of the recruitment aspects then you'll mod far longer then you'll play, ctds included if you're new to this.

i want to do this because the turns take way to long and if it takes 16 turns for another unit of knights to come its kind of hard

what i want to do is make the recritment faster

This was actually already talked about in the other topic (Unit!!??) you posted in.
Please make sure to state exactly what you want to do as you could have gotten this info much sooner.

Um...well, RR changes the recruitment system by making certain units available after a particular period of time. Longbowmen are available after the heavy mail event in 1200 and are phased out (except in England) later on by yeoman then retinue longbowmen.

You can check yourself via the export_descr_building by looking up the unit then checking the paramters.

eg. recruit_pool "Longbowmen" 1 0.67 4 0 requires factions { england, } and hidden_resource england and event_counter HEAVY_MAIL_ARMOR 1 and not event_counter new_era_begins 1

This means you start with 1 in the pool and can get a maximum of 4 at any time (discounting disbanding). Each turn you get 0.67 units (ie. none, but in the secnod turn you'll have one visible in the pool). It requires you to be england and requires the hidden resource england, which basically means the particular castle is located in england, not france etc. It also tells you the heavy mail event is required but this recruitment pool is discontinued after the new era begins event. Another line will probably tell you what happens after the new era begins event.

About turn time itself there is not much to be done. If you want to know more I propose to search the forum for info on that