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    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...tremist-groups

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    The US is facing a surge in anti-government extremist groups and armed militias, driven by deepening hostility on the right to Barack Obama, anger over the economy, and the increasing propagation of conspiracy theories by parts of the mass media such as Fox News.
    The Southern Poverty Law Centre, the US's most prominent civil rights group focused on hate organisations, said in a report that extremist "patriot" groups "came roaring back to life" last year as their number jumped nearly 250% to more than 500 with deepening ties to conservative mainstream politics.
    The SPLC report, called Rage on the Right, said the rise in extremist groups was "a cause for grave concern" given their propensity to use violence during their heyday in the 90s, most notably with the Oklahoma City bombing that killed 168 people. It added that the issues driving support for such groups were increasingly populist and that "signs of growing radicalisation are everywhere".
    "Patriot groups have been fuelled by anger over the changing demographics of the country, the soaring public debt, the troubled economy and an array of initiatives by President Obama that have been branded "socialist" or even "fascist" by his political opponents," the report said.
    "Already there are signs of … violence emanating from the radical right. Since the installation of Barack Obama, rightwing extremists have murdered six law enforcement officers. Racist skinheads and others have been arrested in alleged plots to assassinate the nation's first black president. One man from Brockton, Massachusetts – who told police he had learned on white supremacist websites that a genocide was under way against whites – is charged with murdering two black people and planning to kill as many Jews as possible on the day after Obama's inauguration. Most recently, a rash of individuals with anti-government, survivalist or racist views have been arrested in a series of bomb cases."
    The report says the patriot movement has "made significant inroads into the conservative political scene" in part driven by a growing view of the US administration "as part of a plot to impose 'one-world government' on liberty-loving Americans".
    "The Tea Parties and similar groups that have sprung up in recent months cannot fairly be considered extremist groups, but they are shot through with rich veins of radical ideas, conspiracy theories and racism," the report says.
    The SPLC notes that the rise comes as part of a deepening disillusionment with government in which just one quarter of Americans think government can be trusted. It said that a recent poll found that the anti-tax Tea Party movement is viewed in more positive terms than the Democratic or Republican parties.
    "The signs of growing radicalisation are everywhere. Armed men have come to Obama speeches bearing signs suggesting that the 'tree of liberty' needs to be 'watered' with 'the blood of tyrants'. The Conservative Political Action Conference held this February was co-sponsored by groups like the John Birch Society, which believes President Eisenhower was a communist agent, and Oath Keepers, a patriot outfit formed last year that suggests, in thinly veiled language, that the government has secret plans to declare martial law and intern patriotic Americans in concentration camps," the SPLC said.
    The report says that, unlike during the 1990s, the patriot movement's core ideas are more widely propagated and accepted by prominent politicians and some in the mass media, such as the Fox News presenter Glenn Beck.
    "As the movement has exploded, so has the reach of its ideas, aided and abetted by commentators and politicians in the ostensible mainstream," said the report. "Beck, for instance, reinvigorated a key patriot conspiracy theory – the charge that the federal emergency management agency is secretly running concentration camps – before finally 'debunking' it."
    How far such language is now part of the mainstream political discourse was confirmed by Politico today, which reported that it had obtained a Republican national committee document detailing plans to raise election funds with "an aggressive campaign capitalising on 'fear' of President Barack Obama" and a promise to "save the country from trending toward socialism".
    In the presentation, the administration is portrayed as "the Evil Empire", and Obama as the Joker in Batman.
    Patriot groups and militias are planning a march on Washington next month ostensibly in defence of the right to carry guns.
    Armed and angry

    The SPLC has identified 512 groups, including "patriots" and militias, which it accuses of pushing extreme anti-government doctrines or promoting political conspiracy theories. It says that many are not directly involved in violence but help feed extremism.
    States with several groups include: Texas (52 groups including American Patriots for Freedom Foundation, Central Texas Militia, Texas Well Regulated Militia); Michigan (47 including Northern Michigan Backyard Protection Militia); California (22 including State of California Unorganized Militia, Northern California State Militia, American Armenian Militia, Freedom Force International); Indiana (21 including Indiana Sedentary Militia, Indiana Citizens Volunteer Militia, 3rd Brigade); New York (17 including Empire State Militia); Oregon (14 including Oregon Militia Corps) and Kentucky (13 including Kentucky State Militia – Ohio Valley Command).





    Obama wants to take our guns and this is what happens. Then they try to put is in concentration camps. We say no.



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    yea... well ... im just waiting for the day they round up sean hannity, glen beck, sarah palin, rush limbaugh and all their buddies and we'll be done with this nonsense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sipahizade View Post
    yea... well ... im just waiting for the day they round up sean hannity, glen beck, sarah palin, rush limbaugh and all their buddies and we'll be done with this nonsense
    Thats the solution! Censorship! Just like Mao, Hitler, Stalin, pick your petty dictator.

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    Default Re: US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias

    The article is loaded with such left-wing bias that I cannot even stand to read the rest of it. Could an article possibly be written worse?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CtrlAltDe1337 View Post
    The article is loaded with such left-wing bias that I cannot even stand to read the rest of it. Could an article possibly be written worse?
    SPLC at it's best.
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    SPLC never disappoints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CtrlAltDe1337 View Post
    The article is loaded with such left-wing bias that I cannot even stand to read the rest of it. Could an article possibly be written worse?
    No kidding, its really quite an embarrassing hack piece. The fact is polarizing presidents do tend to encourage such groupings, look at the radical left wing groups to rise up during Bush presidency, there will obviously be incidents violent outbreaks but idiots but lets not forget of the 3 "major" incidents to make the news since beginning of the year 2 have been antiBush era/left wing variety.

    One of the groups is called Freedom Force International.

    I'm sorry, I can't take a name like that seriously...
    Make a great comic book superhero team name Though a right wing group tends to be anti globalism so "international" is an odd pick for such a group....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...tremist-groups

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    The US is facing a surge in anti-government extremist groups and armed militias, driven by deepening hostility on the right to Barack Obama, anger over the economy, and the increasing propagation of conspiracy theories by parts of the mass media such as Fox News.
    The Southern Poverty Law Centre, the US's most prominent civil rights group focused on hate organisations, said in a report that extremist "patriot" groups "came roaring back to life" last year as their number jumped nearly 250% to more than 500 with deepening ties to conservative mainstream politics.
    The SPLC report, called Rage on the Right, said the rise in extremist groups was "a cause for grave concern" given their propensity to use violence during their heyday in the 90s, most notably with the Oklahoma City bombing that killed 168 people. It added that the issues driving support for such groups were increasingly populist and that "signs of growing radicalisation are everywhere".
    "Patriot groups have been fuelled by anger over the changing demographics of the country, the soaring public debt, the troubled economy and an array of initiatives by President Obama that have been branded "socialist" or even "fascist" by his political opponents," the report said.
    "Already there are signs of … violence emanating from the radical right. Since the installation of Barack Obama, rightwing extremists have murdered six law enforcement officers. Racist skinheads and others have been arrested in alleged plots to assassinate the nation's first black president. One man from Brockton, Massachusetts – who told police he had learned on white supremacist websites that a genocide was under way against whites – is charged with murdering two black people and planning to kill as many Jews as possible on the day after Obama's inauguration. Most recently, a rash of individuals with anti-government, survivalist or racist views have been arrested in a series of bomb cases."
    The report says the patriot movement has "made significant inroads into the conservative political scene" in part driven by a growing view of the US administration "as part of a plot to impose 'one-world government' on liberty-loving Americans".
    "The Tea Parties and similar groups that have sprung up in recent months cannot fairly be considered extremist groups, but they are shot through with rich veins of radical ideas, conspiracy theories and racism," the report says.
    The SPLC notes that the rise comes as part of a deepening disillusionment with government in which just one quarter of Americans think government can be trusted. It said that a recent poll found that the anti-tax Tea Party movement is viewed in more positive terms than the Democratic or Republican parties.
    "The signs of growing radicalisation are everywhere. Armed men have come to Obama speeches bearing signs suggesting that the 'tree of liberty' needs to be 'watered' with 'the blood of tyrants'. The Conservative Political Action Conference held this February was co-sponsored by groups like the John Birch Society, which believes President Eisenhower was a communist agent, and Oath Keepers, a patriot outfit formed last year that suggests, in thinly veiled language, that the government has secret plans to declare martial law and intern patriotic Americans in concentration camps," the SPLC said.
    The report says that, unlike during the 1990s, the patriot movement's core ideas are more widely propagated and accepted by prominent politicians and some in the mass media, such as the Fox News presenter Glenn Beck.
    "As the movement has exploded, so has the reach of its ideas, aided and abetted by commentators and politicians in the ostensible mainstream," said the report. "Beck, for instance, reinvigorated a key patriot conspiracy theory – the charge that the federal emergency management agency is secretly running concentration camps – before finally 'debunking' it."
    How far such language is now part of the mainstream political discourse was confirmed by Politico today, which reported that it had obtained a Republican national committee document detailing plans to raise election funds with "an aggressive campaign capitalising on 'fear' of President Barack Obama" and a promise to "save the country from trending toward socialism".
    In the presentation, the administration is portrayed as "the Evil Empire", and Obama as the Joker in Batman.
    Patriot groups and militias are planning a march on Washington next month ostensibly in defence of the right to carry guns.
    Armed and angry

    The SPLC has identified 512 groups, including "patriots" and militias, which it accuses of pushing extreme anti-government doctrines or promoting political conspiracy theories. It says that many are not directly involved in violence but help feed extremism.
    States with several groups include: Texas (52 groups including American Patriots for Freedom Foundation, Central Texas Militia, Texas Well Regulated Militia); Michigan (47 including Northern Michigan Backyard Protection Militia); California (22 including State of California Unorganized Militia, Northern California State Militia, American Armenian Militia, Freedom Force International); Indiana (21 including Indiana Sedentary Militia, Indiana Citizens Volunteer Militia, 3rd Brigade); New York (17 including Empire State Militia); Oregon (14 including Oregon Militia Corps) and Kentucky (13 including Kentucky State Militia – Ohio Valley Command).





    Obama wants to take our guns and this is what happens. Then they try to put is in concentration camps. We say no.



    Also, Mexicans.
    The only Surge in scumbags has been in my goverment, the militas and extremists are the response to the scumbag goverment thats growing and becomeing to powerful....

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    Call me when someone gets shot, might be worth my time then. Though I'm curious as to why I always see Beck's name tied in with all these trash pieces. Do people actually pay attention to that idiot or is he simply the new conservative bogey man?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cougar109 View Post
    Call me when someone gets shot, might be worth my time then. Though I'm curious as to why I always see Beck's name tied in with all these trash pieces. Do people actually pay attention to that idiot or is he simply the new conservative bogey man?
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    One of the groups is called Freedom Force International.

    I'm sorry, I can't take a name like that seriously...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cougar109 View Post
    Call me when someone gets shot, might be worth my time then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cougar109 View Post
    Do people actually pay attention to that idiot or is he simply the new conservative bogey man?
    both really.
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    I remember watching a report on CNN about these groups recently. Despite attempts to make them appear crazy, the man the reporter spoke to seemed fine. Saying they have no intention of trying to overthrow the government, but they follow the founding fathers and think its their duty to be ready at all times to defend liberty. I'm sure there are some truly crazy groups out there, but I don't think this is the case with most of them.

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    One of the groups is called Freedom Force International.

    I'm sorry, I can't take a name like that seriously...

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    Could be because of Mexicans and related groups.
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    So far as I know there is only one president that has no problem forming business and personal friendships with actual self confessed terrorists.
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    Default Re: US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias

    So who am I to believe now? Is the article serious and is there a problem, or is it as someone said:
    The article is loaded with such left-wing bias that I cannot even stand to read the rest of it. Could an article possibly be written worse?

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    That is retarded. There are always anti government people in the US when the government is not hardcore conservative. We have always had militia's, they used to have a purpose now they are a bunch of red necks who want guns but don't want to shot at in real combat.

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    The amount of bias in that article is enough to make me gag.

    And of course we have extremists! Every western country I know has some form of neo-Nazi's in it. And their are probably a few people who are willing to commit atrocities. But you can't characterize the entire conservative political spectrum on the basis of a few ass holes.

    Just like how I wont characterize the entire left just because the last time someone invoked "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" they flew a plane into a building.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lord o kelly View Post
    Just like how I wont characterize the entire left just because the last time someone invoked "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" they flew a plane into a building.
    The guys who did that were the guys who fought USSR

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