Amazing new Asus Laptop

[Armenum]

It looks amazing, design is ok, but everything else is very strong. How you think this will run ETW/NTW?



Specs:

Model Brand ASUS Series G Series Model G73JH-X1 General Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit CPU Type Intel Core i7 720QM(1.6GHz) Screen 17.3" Memory Size 8GB Hard Disk 500GB Optical Drive DVD Super Multi Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Video Memory 1GB GDDR5 Communication Gigabit LAN and WLAN Dimensions 16.60" x 12.80" x 0.80" - 2.30" Weight 8.00 lbs. Other Features 30days Zero Bright Dot LCD CPU CPU Type Intel Core i7 CPU Speed 720QM(1.60GHz) Chipset Chipset Intel HM55 Display Screen Size 17.3" Wide Screen Support Yes Resolution 1920 x 1080 LCD Features LED backlight Operating Systems Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Graphics GPU/VPU ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Video Memory 1GB GDDR5 Graphic Type Dedicated Card Hard Drive HDD 500GB HDD RPM 7200rpm Memory Memory 8GB Optical Drive Optical Drive Type DVD Super Multi Optical Drive Interface Integrated Communications LAN 10/100/1000Mbps WLAN 802.11 b/g/n Wireless LAN Bluetooth Yes Ports USB 4 Video Port 1 x VGA, 1 x HDMI Audio Ports Yes Audio Audio Integrated Sound card Speaker Internal Speakers Input Device Touchpad Yes Keyboard Standard Supplemental Drive Card Reader 8-in-1 Webcam 2.0MP Power Battery 8-cell lithium ion Physical spec Dimensions 16.60" x 12.80" x 0.80" - 2.30" Weight 8.00 lbs. Manufacturer Warranty Accidental Damage Warranty 1 year ASUS Accidental Damage Warranty - Drops, Fire, Spill, Surge Parts 2 years limited Labor 2 years limited

Price: 1,600.00 - 1,700.00 US dollars

[Top-Tier-Tech]

I don't get it... you're promoting a laptop with a 1.6Ghz. quad core ( approx. $150 value) and a mobile GPU equal in performance to a 5750 ($140 GPU) etc. When a desktop that is literally twice as powerful can be bought for $600 less. The only thing amazing about it is the high price.

[Armenum]

I don't get it... you're promoting a laptop with a 1.6Ghz. quad core ( approx. $150 value) and a mobile GPU equal in performance to a 5750 ($140 GPU) etc. When a desktop that is literally twice as powerful can be bought for $600 less. The only thing amazing about it is the high price.

Yeah, but it's i7 at 1.6 Ghz. And it has the strongest ATI Laptop GPU on the market. I highly doubt you can find a desktop for 600 and less that has better specs than this.

[craziii]

I don't get it... you're promoting a laptop with a 1.6Ghz. quad core ( approx. $150 value) and a mobile GPU equal in performance to a 5750 ($140 GPU) etc. When a desktop that is literally twice as powerful can be bought for $600 less. The only thing amazing about it is the high price.

you do realize there is the turbo mode for all i7, the cpu automatically speeds up when you are gaming. why do you always compare laptops to desktops? does that make sense to you?

[Top-Tier-Tech]

you do realize there is the turbo mode for all i7, the cpu automatically speeds up when you are gaming. why do you always compare laptops to desktops? does that make sense to you?

I thoroughly explained this in the last thread about this laptop, turbo mode is essentially overclocking the CPU on the fly based on performance demands on the CPU but is limited by the temperature. Laptops cannot stay cool when the CPU is in full use, the amount the turboboost adds on a typical air-cooled system is under 400Mhz. (look at the vids of a turboboost demo) but it likely won't add anythng on a laptop since they cannot cool the CPU properly (extremely poor intake and internal airflow), I havn't seen turboboost go into effect on my i7920 when running a CPU benchmark or game.

Why do I compare laptops to desktops? Laptops are great, gaming laptops are not. That laptop is hardly portable (1-2 hours of use on battery) so either you charge the battery for an hour to use it for that amount of time or you plug it into an outlet which negates a laptops portability. So since your portability is minimized to near nada (8lb computer, outlet needed to game) then you might as well get a desktop that performs better, cools better, lasts longer, costs less, has better warranties (assuming you build it, something you can't do with laptops) etc. etc.

[Top-Tier-Tech]

BTW this same laptop has been discussed in relation to NTW very recently http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=335234

I highly doubt you can find a desktop for 600 and less that has better specs than this.

Are you serious?! I can build any number of desktops that will blow that thing out of the water for $600 less. I could even find prebuilts that would outperform it at $600 less.

EDIT: here ya go that PC customized with a 4850 will outperform that laptop on NTW. If you build a computer yourself you could get both a CPU and GPU fully twice as powerful as that laptop for $1,100, or spend $750 and have one just as powerful.

[roy34543]

he wants a laptop, Dunno why people always come in and say "get a desktop its cheaper dude" sometimes a laptop is better for certain things.
Anyway the graphics card should run NTW just fine if the non-laptop version is anything to go by. The RAM is great, not sure about the core, but it shoul work.

[Top-Tier-Tech]

It wouldn't cut it, NTW is CPU heavy, 2 cores at 1.6Ghz. is pathetic, and an equivalent 5750/5770 GPU? Not a chance.

[Armenum]

It wouldn't cut it, NTW is CPU heavy, 2 cores at 1.6Ghz. is pathetic, and an equivalent 5750/5770 GPU? Not a chance.

Hmm. I thought given it's an i7 it would handle NTW great. Plus doesn't NTW only use one core? I may be open to buying a desktop given you can get so much power for so little money versus with the laptop. I didn't know there was so much difference between the two in terms of the power you get. So effectively no gaming laptop can run ETW at max?

I'll do some research on desktops. If you have any suggestions for desktops that can run ETW/NTW flawlessly at max settings, please tell me any. My price range is ideally under 1,500 but I may be willing to go a couple hundred dollars up from there.

[Top-Tier-Tech]

Hmm. I thought given it's an i7 it would handle NTW great. Plus doesn't NTW only use one core? I may be open to buying a desktop given you can get so much power for so little money versus with the laptop. I didn't know there was so much difference between the two in terms of the power you get. So effectively no gaming laptop can run ETW at max?

I'll do some research on desktops. If you have any suggestions for desktops that can run ETW/NTW flawlessly at max settings, please tell me any. My price range is ideally under 1,500 but I may be willing to go a couple hundred dollars up from there.

A mobile i7 and a desktop i7 are very different things in terms of performance, same as a mobile 5870 isn't even half as powerful as a desktop 5870. If you ran the game on that laptop lower than the 1920x1080 screen resolution you could max NTW out, but at the native resolution it couldn't do it.

A Gaming laptop needs lots of power to run games, you can only get 1-2 hours on battery so you will either need to charge the battery all the time or play games while plugged into an outlet, either way you gain only minimal portability over a desktop, not to mention it weighs 8lbs. not a light thing to be carrying around.

Another big issue with gaming laptops is they produce a lot of heat which cannot be exhausted very well causing their lifespan to be shortened considerably. That particular laptop is better than the average laptop, but still nowhere near as good as a desktop as far as cooling and system longevity.

If you want the best performance for your money then building one yourself is by far the best way to go, not only will you get 3+ year warranties on the parts themselves, but you save literally hundreds of dollars over buying it prebuilt.

$1,100 would build you a desktop that would be twice as powerful as that laptop, you would still need a screen though, but you could choose a larger screen then you would get on a laptop. Alternatively spending $900 would still get you a superior computer over that laptop.

As far as prebuilt's a customized Dell for $1,300 would match what you could build for $1,100. The motherboard, HDD, RAM and PSU would be of lesser quality in the Dell build than what you could build yourself for that $1,100 though (cheaper components = shorter life span).

[Armenum]

A mobile i7 and a desktop i7 are very different things in terms of performance, same as a mobile 5870 isn't even half as powerful as a desktop 5870. If you ran the game on that laptop lower than the 1920x1080 screen resolution you could max NTW out, but at the native resolution it couldn't do it.

A Gaming laptop needs lots of power to run games, you can only get 1-2 hours on battery so you will either need to charge the battery all the time or play games while plugged into an outlet, either way you gain only minimal portability over a desktop, not to mention it weighs 8lbs. not a light thing to be carrying around.

Another big issue with gaming laptops is they produce a lot of heat which cannot be exhausted very well causing their lifespan to be shortened considerably. That particular laptop is better than the average laptop, but still nowhere near as good as a desktop as far as cooling and system longevity.

If you want the best performance for your money then building one yourself is by far the best way to go, not only will you get 3+ year warranties on the parts themselves, but you save literally hundreds of dollars over buying it prebuilt.

$1,100 would build you a desktop that would be twice as powerful as that laptop, you would still need a screen though, but you could choose a larger screen then you would get on a laptop. Alternatively spending $900 would still get you a superior computer over that laptop.

As far as prebuilt's there's this Dell configuration for nearly $1,300 http://configure.us.dell.com/dellsto...en&s=dhs&cs=19 The motherboard, HDD, RAM and PSU are all of lesser quality in the Dell build than what you could build yourself for that $1,100 though.

Thanks for the advice. I'll look into that custom building of a desktop. I already have a really nice wide-screen HD monitor so I don't have to worry about that.

[Top-Tier-Tech]

I tried to link a customized Dell but it only showed the build before customization so I removed the link, the $1,300 was with a 5870 GPU and 4GB RAM upgrades.

[Armenum]

out of curiosity how is this Alienware desktop? (http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/deskt...s&cs=19&~ck=mn) It's only a little cheaper then the laptops I've been looking at. How would this run the ETW/NTW games?

[mrcrusty]

out of curiosity how is this Alienware desktop? (http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/desktops/alienware-aurora/pd.aspx?refid=alienware-aurora&s=dhs&cs=19&~ck=mn) It's only a little cheaper then the laptops I've been looking at. How would this run the ETW/NTW games?

The specs look nice enough, and it seems like it would run any game on the market (except possibly Crysis) completely maxed, but Alienware desktops are generally known for having high quality, and an even higher price.

It says that minimum price is $1200, I customised on the site a little and switched the hard drive for a 1TB one, and the video card from a GTX 260 to a 5870 and the price skyrocketed to $1500-$1600, let alone even trying to change the silly RAM packages they have. Triple Channel RAM, only goes from 3GB to 9GB (no 6GB option) and clocked at 1067 Mhz.

If you can build it yourself, you could easily shave $400-$500 off that price tag.

Don't get me wrong, it looks like a good computer and easily will run ETW at max, but it's overpriced. On the positive side, it is liquid cooled. Still, that's only a necessity because the case is so small and cramped. With a good case and airflow, air cooling does absolutely fine.

[Capt. Fozdike]

It looks amazing, design is ok, but everything else is very strong. How you think this will run ETW/NTW?



Specs:


Price: 1,600.00 - 1,700.00 US dollars

It's a good laptop but very expensive. The i7 is nothing new in laptops and the 5870 is in other laptops now

[HansDuet]

Can't say I'm amazed.

[Freddie]

Apparently its design was inspired by "stealth aircraft".