Terrorists' motives

[Boer]

I often hear people, especially the media and campaigning politicians, say that Islamic terrorists attack us because they "hate our freedom." No I am willing to accept that some of the higher echelon terrorists may genuinely be motivated, at least in part, by hatred for our freedoms, but I have a hard time imagining some random Muslim deciding to go blow himself up because somewhere people have freedoms.

What motivates the average, grunt level terrorist?

[roy34543]

Propoganda, A general sense of purpose (mostly this) group camradradie , brainwashing and idealogical motivations.
Sometimes theres more personal or Individual reasons. Like "Americans killed a relative" or "I saw a mosque got destroyed by a bomb" maybe "I always wanted to get attention on the scale of the people who commited 9/11" or "I needed the money/my family needed the money"
Sometiems even more political motivations like "I Dislike what Israel is doing to the palestinians" (but this is in all honesty, extremely rare)
But thats the general list of reasons I would assume.

[The.Delegate]

Most of them, to my knowledge, are people who have been pushed into a corner. They are people radicalized because of lack of opportunity to make a better life for themselves, so instead they get angry and blow stuff up. I think that sums it up.

[jankren]

Sweden is freer than any country in the world and how many terrorist attacks did they get?

America is not the freest country. Gays cant even get married in the US.

The 'they hate our freedom' bullcrap is the most idiotic propaganda.

The biggest motive for the Islamic terrorists is the reward of 72 virgins in heaven. Without it it would be very very hard to recruit a suicide bomber.

[hellheaven1987]

No, most people who seek military life because of boreness and seeking of adventure. Some are ideological, but no body would think ideology when bullets flying around you (at least, Duke of Wellington said that).

[Fluttershy]

Sweden is freer than any country in the world and how many terrorist attacks did they get?

America is not the freest country. Gays cant even get married in the US.

The 'they hate our freedom' bullcrap is the most idiotic propaganda.

The biggest motive for the Islamic terrorists is the reward of 72 virgins in heaven. Without it it would be very very hard to recruit a suicide bomber.

wrong.

if your going to bash the USA please at least use facts

[jankren]

wrong.

if your going to bash the USA please at least use facts

Okay, gay marriage is legal in five out of fifty states! I bet you are the proudest American now ...

[Mik528]

Sweden is freer than any country in the world and how many terrorist attacks did they get?

America is not the freest country. Gays cant even get married in the US.

The 'they hate our freedom' bullcrap is the most idiotic propaganda.

The biggest motive for the Islamic terrorists is the reward of 72 virgins in heaven. Without it it would be very very hard to recruit a suicide bomber.

That 72 virgins reward is bull, it's just a lie against terrorists, when i read my Quran it states nowhere that if i explode myself i will be rewarded 72 virgins, quite the opposite. It's a sin to be a suicide bomber.

Terrorist motives are probably started when Osama bin Laden wanted to attack U.S.A in some way and chose the World Trade Centre (9/11) His problem however is, how would he be able to destroy it? He can't sneak in a task force or god forbid airstrike it, he took the way of hijacking a plane a having his terrorist suicide bomb it. Now think about it, most of these terrorists attacks are in places that are guarded, if an Taliban member for instance wanted to kill some people to cause terror (Like an idiot IMO) he wouldn't beable to just stick it out with an AK-47, he'd be shot dead before his first clip. Solution? Explode, kill about 20 people or more, injure a few dozen others and maybe knock down a building.

It's saddening but this is how it happens,based on my theory.

Sweden is freer than any country in the world and how many terrorist attacks did they get?

Based on their decision to ban the minaret, who knows if some extremist decides to pay them a visit. God terrorists are embarrassing

[removeduser_052420]

The average terrorist is probably brainwashed, and believes that what he is doing is right, because he is fighting the enemy of the "muslims". Which is, of course, all grade-A .

[Poet]

I often hear people, especially the media and campaigning politicians, say that Islamic terrorists attack us because they "hate our freedom." No I am willing to accept that some of the higher echelon terrorists may genuinely be motivated, at least in part, by hatred for our freedoms, but I have a hard time imagining some random Muslim deciding to go blow himself up because somewhere people have freedoms.

What motivates the average, grunt level terrorist?

Your politicians and media lie. In fact you people are taking others' freedoms and that makes them mad. Tell me is this justice that East Timor is freed instantly after a conflict by U.N. but 60 years old conflicts of Kashmir and Palestine are not solved according to U.N.'s own resolutions? Tell me is this justice that if Saddam attacks Kuwait, without U.N. mandate or any valid reason and his country is attacked and 500000 Iraqi children die because of the ban on medicine and milk, same act is done on much bigger level by rogue state of U.S. and her allies and not only U.N. do not touch them but give them mandate after attack, to keep occupying Iraq? And all of that on base of a lie of WMDs. Tell me what is the difference between Bush, Blair and their allies and those Serb leaders who committed heinous war crimes? Difference is that people affected by Bush and Blair's crimes are much more in number and intensity of crime is much than crime of those Serb leaders. Are they being tried by International Courts? No. Tell me what do you expect from an Iraqi or Afghan father (having strong tendencies of revenge in their cultures) when they see that their life is no more, they see that their families have been killed by terrorist attack of ing "liberators".

So next time asses of your media and politicians when they tell such lies to you.

[The Noble Lord]

Tell me what do you expect from an Iraqi or Afghan father (having strong tendencies of revenge in their cultures) when they see that their life is no more, they see that their families have been killed by terrorist attack of ing "liberators".

Exactly, and same principle applies to Palestine and Iraq as well!

[k995]

Your politicians and media lie. In fact you people are taking others' freedoms and that makes them mad. Tell me is this justice that East Timor is freed instantly after a conflict by U.N. but 60 years old conflicts of Kashmir and Palestine are not solved according to U.N.'s own resolutions?

Thats actually quit simple, east timor is complety different from kashmir or palestina. In the latter neighbours or the countrys themselves are too stuburn to want to change. Starting a war on the half of the arab world or india and pakistan isnt something anyone wants to do.

Tell me is this justice that if Saddam attacks Kuwait, without U.N. mandate or any valid reason and his country is attacked and 500000 Iraqi children die because of the ban on medicine and milk,

Get your facts straight there was a 91UN mandate . And 500 000 children is pure iraqi PR , this has been penty times proven. The oil for food program was from the UN itself. And was even grosly abused by saddam.

same act is done on much bigger level by rogue state of U.S. and her allies and not only U.N. do not touch them but give them mandate after attack, to keep occupying Iraq? And all of that on base of a lie of WMDs.

Again not true, get you facts straight.

Tell me what is the difference between Bush, Blair and their allies and those Serb leaders who committed heinous war crimes? Difference is that people affected by Bush and Blair's crimes are much more in number and intensity of crime is much than crime of those Serb leaders.

The difference is what they want to achive: serbs wanted a muslim free kosovo, USA and UK want a stable and democratic iraq. Now wich is the worst?

Are they being tried by International Courts? No. Tell me what do you expect from an Iraqi or Afghan father (having strong tendencies of revenge in their cultures) when they see that their life is no more, they see that their families have been killed by terrorist attack of ing "liberators".

So next time asses of your media and politicians when they tell such lies to you.

If I were you I would change were I get my facts , you're as branwashed as the avergae terrorist.

[Gelgoog]

Your politicians and media lie. In fact you people are taking others' freedoms and that makes them mad. Tell me is this justice that East Timor is freed instantly after a conflict by U.N. but 60 years old conflicts of Kashmir and Palestine are not solved according to U.N.'s own resolutions? Tell me is this justice that if Saddam attacks Kuwait, without U.N. mandate or any valid reason and his country is attacked and 500000 Iraqi children die because of the ban on medicine and milk, same act is done on much bigger level by rogue state of U.S. and her allies and not only U.N. do not touch them but give them mandate after attack, to keep occupying Iraq? And all of that on base of a lie of WMDs. Tell me what is the difference between Bush, Blair and their allies and those Serb leaders who committed heinous war crimes? Difference is that people affected by Bush and Blair's crimes are much more in number and intensity of crime is much than crime of those Serb leaders. Are they being tried by International Courts? No. Tell me what do you expect from an Iraqi or Afghan father (having strong tendencies of revenge in their cultures) when they see that their life is no more, they see that their families have been killed by terrorist attack of ing "liberators".

So next time asses of your media and politicians when they tell such lies to you.

Your right its not fair....we should just Nuke the middle east and turn the whole place into a glass parking lot and be done with it

There is the carrot and stick approach...we tried to give you the carrot but you seem to only want the stick.

If I were you I would change were I get my facts , you're as branwashed as the avergae terrorist.

I think most of TWC can agree with that statement.

[dogukan]

Well that depends on who we talk about.....some are radical people with their own ideology. These are the kind of people who bombs civillians.
But a lot of the ones who fight agaisnt the Coalition forces in Afghanistan and Iraq are not actually terrorists but guerillas.

Their motives:
-religion. Someone from a different religion is on their soil hurting people.
-Invasion....a lot of people wold fight if their country was invaded
-USA is the satan according to them so their forces have to be dealt with all over the world
-losing a loved, your home, your family in a random bombing...(either by coalition or terrorists)

wrong.

if your going to bash the USA please at least use facts

I certainly would not even compare the USA to a lot of European countries in terms of freedom and quality of live. Especially Sweden. Yet I still believe living in NYC would be kickass.

[athanaric]

I certainly would not even compare the USA to a lot of European countries in terms of freedom and quality of live. Especially Sweden.

Fixed. The US have way more freedom (political and other) than most European countries. Especially Sweden. Though the latter is still a great country.

Other than that, I think your analysis is quite accurate. Unfortunately, people tend to be irrational and are quick to blame anything bad that happens to them on the US or other major powers.

[Fluttershy]

Well that depends on who we talk about.....some are radical people with their own ideology. These are the kind of people who bombs civillians.
But a lot of the ones who fight agaisnt the Coalition forces in Afghanistan and Iraq are not actually terrorists but guerillas.

Their motives:
-religion. Someone from a different religion is on their soil hurting people.
-Invasion....a lot of people wold fight if their country was invaded
-USA is the satan according to them so their forces have to be dealt with all over the world
-losing a loved, your home, your family in a random bombing...(either by coalition or terrorists)



I certainly would not even compare the USA to a lot of European countries in terms of freedom and quality of live. Especially Sweden. Yet I still believe living in NYC would be kickass.

I didnt, ignorant poster claims gay marriage is illegal in the USA, I merely point out that hes completely wrong

[jankren]

I didnt, ignorant poster claims gay marriage is illegal in the USA, I merely point out that hes completely wrong

Please point out how Im completely wrong.

[removeduser_052420]

I didnt, ignorant poster claims gay marriage is illegal in the USA, I merely point out that hes completely wrong

How the hell is he "completely wrong"? Most americans don't want gay marriage. That's a ing fact, and you know it.

[Fluttershy]

How the hell is he "completely wrong"? Most americans don't want gay marriage. That's a ing fact, and you know it.

Jankren stated "Gays cant even get married in the US."

gays can get married in the USA...

so yes, that statement is completely wrong.

"Most americans don't want gay marriage. That's a ing fact, and you know it."

I disagree, most Americans couldnt care less. You have your vocal minorites who are for and against it... but by and large your average american couldnt care less either way.

[removeduser_052420]

Jankren stated "Gays cant even get married in the US."

gays can get married in the USA...

so yes, that statement is completely wrong.

OMGZ!!! GAYZ CAN GET MARRIED IN CALIFORNIA AND LIKE 2 OTHER STATES!!! YEAH!!!

Yeah, too bad that leaves out about.... i don't know.. 47 other states?

"Most americans don't want gay marriage. That's a ing fact, and you know it."

I disagree, most Americans couldnt care less. You have your vocal minorites who are for and against it... but by and large your average american couldnt care less either way.

Ummm... no. Most Americans aern't homophobic, but most don't want gay marriage, for whatever retarded reasons they have. Which is exactly why gay marriage legislation is pretty much stuck in quicksand in most states, or nonexistent altogether.