Range units can't fire.

Hello

When i'm defending in a siege battle, when my quarellers or thunderers are on the walls, only a really few of them fire on the ennemy (about 10 on 60). I don't know why. All of them fire only when the ennemy is really, really far. It is like if they had a really short shot angle. It happens too in fields battle. Ranged units shot with difficulty, but easier than on the wall. How can I fix that please ? It makes castle undefendable, because I can't shot the ennemy with efficiency.Thank you in advance, and sorry for the bad english cause I'm french.

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http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=324045

Download descr_projectile.txt

Thank you Amiral Thrawn. But this file is for your SubMod, not for the original COW 3.01, am I true ?

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This problem concerns only dwarves faction.

No, I've only posted several other files that I've modified more or less. The descr_projectiles.txt is for 3.01 (as all my files that are there), I've changed the values for crossbows to the original ones that are in M2 so now the entire unit fires when on walls.

Thank you Amiral Thrawn I'll tell you if it works.

It worked

I only changed the following things for the dwarves crossbowmen :

max_angle 65
velocity 20 80

Now it's ok (for dwarves in any cases).

I first changed the max_angle - without result , but I had to change velocity too.

I hav'nt tried orc crossbowmen, perhaps that they need some change too.

I hope that the team will edit those bugs.

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I just have to wait for next patch in order to start a new campaign without CTD ^^.

Thrawn, does the file you linked correct this issue for all the ranged units in COW?

Originally Posted by Kaliaeth Chillblade

Thrawn, does the file you linked correct this issue for all the ranged units in COW?

It changes only how the crossbows fire for all factions. The rest are fine. I've checked everything with similar files from vanilla M2, TA and SS.

It does for all the crossbowmen in any case. Orcs, Tilean, Dwarves and others...

But me I prefered to keep the original COW descr_projectile.txt file, in order to keep the original ranges. I only changed the crossbowmen description in descr_projectile.txt.

GAT, do you mind correct the issue for 1.4 COW????

Originally Posted by holynevil

GAT, do you mind correct the issue for 1.4 COW????

Here Holynevil is the stats for crossbows from Thrawns descr_projectile.txt

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projectile crossbow_boltbs3

effect crossbow_arrows_new_set
end_effect arrow_impact_ground_set
end_man_effect man_impact_tiny_set
end_package_effect arrow_impact_wall_set
end_shatter_effect arrow_impact_ground_set
end_shatter_man_effect man_impact_tiny_set
end_shatter_package_effect arrow_broken_impact_wall_set
damage 0
radius 0
mass 0.02
accuracy_vs_units 0.05
affected_by_rain
min_angle -60
max_angle 65
velocity 20 80
display aimed
effect_only

projectile crossbow_tilea

effect crossbow_arrows_new_set
end_effect arrow_impact_ground_set
end_man_effect man_impact_tiny_set
end_package_effect arrow_impact_wall_set
end_shatter_effect arrow_impact_ground_set
end_shatter_man_effect man_impact_tiny_set
end_shatter_package_effect arrow_broken_impact_wall_set
damage 0
radius 0
mass 0.02
accuracy_vs_units 0.04
affected_by_rain
min_angle -60
max_angle 65
velocity 20 80
display aimed
effect_only

projectile crossbow_orc

effect crossbow_arrows_new_set
end_effect arrow_impact_ground_set
end_man_effect man_impact_tiny_set
end_package_effect arrow_impact_wall_set
end_shatter_effect arrow_impact_ground_set
end_shatter_man_effect man_impact_tiny_set
end_shatter_package_effect arrow_broken_impact_wall_set
damage 0
radius 0
mass 0.02
accuracy_vs_units 0.08
affected_by_rain
min_angle -60
max_angle 65
velocity 20 80
display aimed
effect_only

projectile dwarf_crossbow_boltbs3

effect crossbow_arrows_new_set
end_effect arrow_impact_ground_set
end_man_effect man_impact_tiny_set
end_package_effect arrow_impact_wall_set
end_shatter_effect arrow_impact_ground_set
end_shatter_man_effect man_impact_tiny_set
end_shatter_package_effect arrow_broken_impact_wall_set
damage 0
radius 0
mass 0.02
accuracy_vs_units 0.03
affected_by_rain
min_angle -60
max_angle 65
velocity 20 80
display aimed
effect_only

Just copy and past over the same said info! Or you could follow his link down load his file and edit the new with his.

thank, now i just hope i don't mess it up =))

Originally Posted by holynevil

thank, now i just hope i don't mess it up =))

Just drag orignal to desktop it will make a copy. Open and edit the one still in folder, save then test. If you get a CTD. Drag orignal back into folder, click overwrite. Walla vannila restored.

RedDwarf i followed your instructions about c&p as using GAT's descr projectiles causes a CTD, however i can't save the file and its changes as apparently i don't have permission, its not read only and i am logged as administrator any ideas?

Originally Posted by Cfc149

RedDwarf i followed your instructions about c&p as using GAT's descr projectiles causes a CTD, however i can't save the file and its changes as apparently i don't have permission, its not read only and i am logged as administrator any ideas?

First did you use his file or did you splice in the crossbow data into the one that came with 1.4?
Here just download this. Its Grand Admiral Thrawn's crossbow fix applied to 1.4.
Just drag and drop from download folder into data folder of CoW mod.




EDIT:1.41 works fine no need

Well it's not really my fix (or a fix in that matter). I just changed the CoW values to those from vanilla M2.

Originally Posted by Grand Admiral Thrawn

Well it's not really my fix (or a fix in that matter). I just changed the CoW values to those from vanilla M2.

Well, since you did all the leg work. Tracked down the correct value and all, you deseved the credit and still do

actualy in 1/4/1 they can fire ....

Originally Posted by isilendil

actualy in 1/4/1 they can fire ....

Yea sorry. Should have verified that they still had a shooting problem before posting will edit retraction that its no longer needed.



THP perhaps this thread should be closed since its a non-issue?