Was Hitler an Atheist/Catholic?

[Banana Jelly]

In the Ethos before, I heard many Christian's say that he was not Christian, and was an Atheist, while I saw Atheist's say he was a Christian. Now this is my evidence that he was in fact a Christian. Im not sure he stayed Catholic, (He was raised as a Catholic) but in a speech in Stuttgart February 15 1933, he was to have said

"Today they say that Christianity is in danger, that the Catholic faith is threatened. My reply to them is: for the time being, Christians and not international atheists are now standing at Germany’s fore. I am not merely talking about Christianity; I confess that I will never ally myself with the parties which aim to destroy Christianity. Fourteen years they have gone arm in arm with atheism. At no time was greater damage ever done to Christianity than in those years when the Christian parties ruled side by side with those who denied the very existence of God. Germany's entire cultural life was shattered and contaminated in this period. It shall be our task to burn out these manifestations of degeneracy in literature, theater, schools, and the press—that is, in our entire culture—and to eliminate the poison which has been permeating every facet of our lives for these past fourteen years."

He said Atheism was the "communistic enemy", generalizing all communist's as atheist's, (which hitler's political belief is a communist hater).

He say's himself that Christian was in "danger", defending christianity.





This is obvious and Im going to get flamed for stating the obvious, that he was christian, but many christian's deny he was a christian, so I want to hear there view's now.

[Tirus]

He was anti-religious, but I dont know if he was a catholic before he came in power or not. What I do know is that he let the catholics pray for him during the war. In the Berlin cathedral there were hundreds of people who came to pray for the good luck of their Fuhrer.

[Tiberius Tosi]

He was anti-religious, but I dont know if he was a catholic before he came in power or not. What I do know is that he let the catholics pray for him during the war. In the Berlin cathedral there were hundreds of people who came to pray for the good luck of their Fuhrer.

Meanwhile the SA were beating Catholics on sight until they were disbanded and after that Catholics were still attacked.

I would say he was anti-religious. He was probably somewhat religious in his younger days, and may very well have been Catholic.

He certainly was not too religious, his speeches all preached state over religion. He certainly did not support it but to treat it too harshly too soon would have been political suicide, nevertheless the SA was still notorious for their attacks on Catholics and even many protestant churches.

[Ahlerich]

oh this is going to be a good thread.
hitler hated the church, however he knew most germans are religious and attacking the church publicly would weaken his support severely.

[Banana Jelly]

oh this is going to be a good thread.
hitler hated the church, however he knew most germans are religious and attacking the church publicly would weaken his support severely.

My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. .. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison.

A speech from hitler

Any evidence from his speech leading to him being irreligious or him hating the church? I pointed out my evidence, but you didn't.

[MaximiIian]

A speech from hitler

Any evidence from his speech leading to him being irreligious or him hating the church? I pointed out my evidence, but you didn't.

There's quite a bit of his private conversations that show him being hostile to the Christian churches. Though that doesn't mean he was irreligious. It just means he didn't like the Christian religion.

And before people come in, claiming that Hitler supported a Germanic neo-pagan faith- you are confusing him with Karl Maria Willigut and Alfred Rosenberg. Hitler's conversations reveal that he was just as dismissive of Germanic reconstructionism as he was of Christianity.

Hitler's religion, if it can be called so, was Nazism. He believed in his political, racial, and social ideology to the point of fanatical religious fervour. If you had to pin down his theology, he was a plain and simple theist, who saw the Germans as god's chosen people and he as its messiah. Pretty damn clear-cut, really.

[CiviC]

Hitler's religion, if it can be called so, was Nazism. He believed in his political, racial, and social ideology to the point of fanatical religious fervour. If you had to pin down his theology, he was a plain and simple theist, who saw the Germans as god's chosen people and he as its messiah. Pretty damn clear-cut, really.

I also tend to the opinion Hitler had his own set of beleif quasi religious or mysthical, but they were not even probably very clear to himself, he probably saw himself as a modern prophet, probably beleiving in his messianic destiny to lead the Aryan race, I'm not sure he beleived there is a superior enthity he was responsable to or he didn't cared too much, he could be superstitious though and atracted by the mysticism of Nazi ideology, who knows what was in his sick mind ... but for me it's clear he had no definite religious beleif.

[cegorach]

In the Ethos before, I heard many Christian's say that he was not Christian, and was an Atheist, while I saw Atheist's say he was a Christian. Now this is my evidence that he was in fact a Christian. Im not sure he stayed Catholic, (He was raised as a Catholic) but in a speech in Stuttgart February 15 1933, he was to have said




He said Atheism was the "communistic enemy", generalizing all communist's as atheist's, (which hitler's political belief is a communist hater).

He say's himself that Christian was in "danger", defending christianity.

This is obvious and Im going to get flamed for stating the obvious, that he was christian, but many christian's deny he was a christian, so I want to hear there view's now.

Indeed politicians do not never, ever lie.

Ehem... just remember that also Stalin called for defending Holy Mother Russia and used religious symbols of orthodox chrystianity. But would you call him christian?

[Banana Jelly]

Ofcourse Obama could be muslim too I say he is muslim. He pray's 5 times a day and believes in muslim codes.

[Celsius]

Hitler was an atheist. He just pulled the Vatican as puppets to get things done. Many nazi's after the war went to he vatican to escape Europe. He had to please the Church, but at the same time, he didnt believe in it.

[Dr. Croccer]

He was a Nazi. National Socialism was it's own religion. There's little room for a God in a system in which everyone must revere a great leader. With the baptising of SS babies portraits of Hitler replaced traditional Christian symbols.

He defintely used religion as a form of propaganda, he used religious terms in his speeches a lot. But in private he seemed to be very critical of Christianity and ambivelant at best towards others.

[Banana Jelly]

I know he wasn't too religious, but he was religious. He carries a cross with him everywhere, when he didn't have to. No one would notice that.

[Tirus]

But the SA did only exist until 1934, and from then on Hitler only tried to appease the Catholic church (and all the Catholic germans).
Furthermore, the SA have attacked the Catholics sometimes, but not nearly as much as communists, other socialists, jews, homos and everybody the nazi's didnt like.

[RuleBritannia]

Hitler was originally Catholic, but later on as he gained power he started thinking of God as "inferior" to him, and abandoned his faith for the most part. He did keep some faith though, but during his height he didn't care about his religion, otherwise he wouldn't have also slayed thousands of Catholics.

[Koelkastmagneet]

So someone with Pagan beliefs, an admiration for Islam and an utter contempt for the church is somehow a Christian because he mentions it in some speeches.. yeah

[konny]

So someone with Pagan beliefs

If that is meant to point to the pseudo-neo-Germanic cults (mixed with a good deal of pseudo-Medieval and Thule and Atlantis stuff), that was rather Himmler than Hitler. Hitler was Catholic and remained it all his life. This doesn't mean he was an exemplary Christian, of course.

There are no signs that Hitler wanted to eradicate Christian faith or the major Christian churches, as long as they won't oppose him.

If you are digging really deep, of course, you'll certainly find some anti-Christian and anti-clerical quotes by Hitler. But he was in no way someone with clear concepts. He loved to hold endless monlogues on all topics under the sun, going on until he finally slept in over it himself. He also loved to hold long speaches in every corner of Germany, always telling what he the thought the respective audience wished to hear from him.

So, any "Hitler said this or that" isn't worth much. He really said a lot, and most of it either were outright lies, complete nonsense, or contradicting his actions or things he did say on other occasions.

[Heathen Hammer]

Hitler didn't have Pagan beliefs. Officially, he was a Christian. He constantly used Christian theme in his ideology and he had good relations with Catholic church(also in reality he disliked it, but than again, he constantly changed his views on different things).

[hellheaven1987]

Hitler didn't have Pagan beliefs. Officially, he was a Christian. He constantly used Christian theme in his ideology and he had good relations with Catholic church(also in reality he disliked it, but than again, he constantly changed his views on different things).

Even that he is quite ready to accept other religions into his belief. Overall he is a Pagan, not a Christian.

[Arch-hereticK]

a) Hitler was baptized as Roman Catholic during infancy in Austria.
b) As Hitler approached boyhood he attended a monastery school. (On his way to school young Adolf daily observed a stone arch which was carved with the monastery’s coat of arms bearing a swastika.)
c) Hitler was a communicant and an altar boy in the Catholic Church.
d) As a young man he was confirmed as a “soldier of Christ.” His most ardent goal at the time was to become a priest. Hitler writes of his love for the church and clergy: “I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal.” -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
e) Hitler was NEVER excommunicated nor condemned by his church. Matter of fact the Church felt he was JUST and “avenging for God” in attacking the Jews for they deemed the Semites the killers of Jesus.
f) Hitler, Franco and Mussolini were given VETO power over whom the pope could appoint as a bishop in Germany, Spain and Italy. In turn they surtaxed the Catholics and gave the money to the Vatican. Hitler wrote a speech in which he talks about this alliance, this is an excerpt: “The fact that the Vatican is concluding a treaty with the new Germany means the acknowledgement of the National Socialist state by the Catholic Church. This treaty shows the whole world clearly and unequivocally that the assertion that National Socialism [Nazism] is hostile to religion is a lie.” Adolf Hitler, 22 July 1933, writing to the Nazi Party
g) Hitler worked CLOSELY with Pope Pius in converting Germanic society and supporting the church. The Church absorbed Nazi ideals and preached them as part of their sermons in turn Hitler placed Catholic teachings in public education. This photo depicts Hitler with Archbishop Cesare Orsenigo, the papal nuncio in Berlin. It was taken On April 20, 1939, when Orsenigo celebrated Hitler’s birthday. The celebrations were initiated by Pacelli (Pope Pius XII) and became a tradition.
Each April 20, Cardinal Bertram of Berlin was to send “warmest congratulations to the Fuhrer in the name of the bishops and the dioceses in Germany with “fervent prayers which the Catholics of Germany are sending to heaven on their altars.” (If you would like to know more about the secret dealings of Hitler and the Pope I recommend you get a book titled: Hitler’s Pope: The Secret History of Pius XII, by John Cornwell)
h) Due to Hitler’s involvement with the Church he began enacting doctrines of the Church as law. He outlawed all abortion, raged a death war on all homosexuals, and demanded corporal punishment in schools and home. Many times Hitler addressed the church and promised that Germany would implement its teachings: “The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity. It will be its honest endeavor to protect both the great Christian Confessions in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren), and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of the State of today.” –Adolf Hitler, on 26 June 1934, to Catholic bishops to assure them that he would take action against the new pagan propaganda “Providence has caused me to be Catholic, and I know therefore how to handle this Church.” -Adolf Hitler, reportedly to have said in Berlin in 1936 on the enmity of the Catholic Church to National Socialism.


Hitler’s speeches and proclamations, even more clearly, reveal his faith and feelings toward a Christianized Germany. Nazism presents an embarrassment to Christianity and demonstrates the danger of their faith So they try to pin him on other theistic views. The following words from Hitler show his disdain for atheism, and pagan cults, and reveal the strength of his Christian feelings:
“National Socialism is not a cult-movement-- a movement for worship; it is exclusively a ‘volkic’ political doctrine based upon racial principles. In its purpose there is no mystic cult, only the care and leadership of a people defined by a common blood-relationship... We will not allow mystically- minded occult folk with a passion for exploring the secrets of the world beyond to steal into our Movement. Such folk are not National Socialists, but something else-- in any case something which has nothing to do with us. At the head of our programme there stand no secret surmisings but clear-cut perception and straightforward profession of belief. But since we set as the central point of this perception and of this profession of belief the maintenance and hence the security for the future of a being formed by God, we thus serve the maintenance of a divine work and fulfill a divine will-- not in the secret twilight of a new house of worship, but openly before the face of the Lord… Our worship is exclusively the cultivation of the natural, and for that reason, because natural, therefore God-willed. Our humility is the unconditional submission before the divine laws of existence so far as they are known to us men.” -Adolf Hitler, to a friend on 6 Sept.1938. [Christians have always accused Hitler of believing in pagan cult mythology. What is written here clearly expresses his stand against cults.]

[AK47]

If Hitler was a Catholic why did he commit war crimes on Poland ?

This is a real Catholic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilm_Hosenfeld