Can anyone get comparisons of Line Infantry?

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  1. Player44's Avatar

    Player44 said:

    Default Can anyone get comparisons of Line Infantry?

    That would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
     
  2. GasMask's Avatar

    GasMask said:

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    What kind ? and do you want pictures and for what country ?
     
  3. Jihada's Avatar

    Jihada said:

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    Do You mean comparisons of firing,morale,defense,attack etc as given in wargame rules ? Pictures of units are easily found on the interweb.
    http://www.hat.com/currentN.html

    Just one example, Notice most of the units show in NTW are wrong for the early 1805 period and are later Napoleonic units.
    Last edited by Jihada; March 02, 2010 at 11:37 PM.
     
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    Red_legged_devils said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jihada View Post
    Do You mean comparisons of firing,morale,defense,attack etc as given in wargame rules ? Pictures of units are easily found on the interweb.
    http://www.hat.com/currentN.html

    Just one example, Notice most of the units show in NTW are wrong for the early 1805 period and are later Napoleonic units.
    Thats fine and dandy but we need a new foust guide that has unit pics etc....Whos gonna make it this time?
     
  5. Player44's Avatar

    Player44 said:

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    Comparisons of stats, if that's possible.
     
  6. Fallen.Soldier's Avatar

    Fallen.Soldier said:

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    I believe a lefusil NTW is being worked on. Should be done this week apparently.
     
  7. Player44's Avatar

    Player44 said:

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    Oh excellent, as I have heard that French line infantry is the worst in the game, which makes no sense to me.
     
  8. Smashmouth said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Player44 View Post
    Oh excellent, as I have heard that French line infantry is the worst in the game, which makes no sense to me.
    No, not at all. They have a significant morale boost comparatively and generally kick butt one on one.
     
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    the_mango55 said:

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    The Russian line has to be the worst.
    ttt
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  10. Player44's Avatar

    Player44 said:

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    Oh, I have heard the contrary, that their morale was low and that they in general are below-average, but I don't own the game so I wouldn't know.
     
  11. Jihada's Avatar

    Jihada said:

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    Yes but it depends if you play as France or against the AI France. I'm playing GB on h/h at th moment and the French are not hard to beat. Playing as France perhaps the AI of other countries are easy to defeat. It's the fault of the BAI in general I think.
     
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    Fallen.Soldier said:

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    Well, i did a quick check to see...
    (range, accuracy, melee attack, melee defence, moral)

    Austria
    -Germans Fusiliers 80-40-6-9-6
    -Hungarian Fusiliers 80-45-7-11-7

    Great Britain
    -Foot 80-45-7-11-7
    -Highland Foot 80-50-9-9-7

    France
    -Fusiliers of Line 80-40-6-8-6

    Russia
    -Musketeers 80-35-8-7-7
    -Moscow Musketeers 80-40-9-9-8 (for some reason this unit isnt in GC)

    Prussia
    -Musketeers 80-45-6-8-6

    Looks like hungarian fusiliers and GB highland/foot are the "best"...then moscow musketeers
    Last edited by Fallen.Soldier; March 03, 2010 at 12:17 AM.
     
  13. Player44's Avatar

    Player44 said:

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    Yes, those are the stats I remember, France has the lowest morale, weak in attack, mediocre accuracy, this is what I remembered and I found that to be hugely disappointing... and what... Prussia has relatively weak infantry as well, that doesn't make much sense to me.
     
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    Fallen.Soldier said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Player44 View Post
    Yes, those are the stats I remember, France has the lowest morale, weak in attack, mediocre accuracy, this is what I remembered and I found that to be hugely disappointing... and what... Prussia has relatively weak infantry as well, that doesn't make much sense to me.
    I was gonna say prussia have the best skirmishers...but it seems GB and prussia have the same one....=/...theres really nothing special with prussia atm, unit wise.
     
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    ztn3 said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallen.Soldier View Post
    I was gonna say prussia have the best skirmishers...but it seems GB and prussia have the same one....=/...theres really nothing special with prussia atm, unit wise.
    I disagree. Yesterday I checked the prussian campaign and they have very usefull units (one of the best and most versatile overall roster) - jagers (including silesian rifles), best grenadiers, guards, cuirassiers, light infantry (I did not check if they can form a square as french chasseurs - it that case they would be the best light infatry available).
    And most importantly - they have probably the best army at the beggining (including cuirassiers, dragoons, silesian sharpshooters, jagers, grenadiers), not being at war with anyone. They can easily conquer little german states - Meklenburg, Sachsen, Hessen and then decide to fight against Napoleon or against coalition.
     
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    Jihada said:

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    Well British line(including KGL and later Portuguese) were reckoned the best of the Nap period but as the British army was smaller than most, they should have a higher cost or maintenance cost to balance things.My GB armies in NTW are much larger than in history and I can afford them as GB makes loads of money after a few years.
    Last edited by Jihada; March 03, 2010 at 12:24 AM.
     
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    Jihada said:

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    Something wrong there. The early 1805-6 Prussians were still basically using 18th century tactics and were beaten at Jena due to French use of more modern tactics. I suppose they're thinking of later Prussians who were much better.
     
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    the_mango55 said:

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    Just made these pics

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Austria


    Britain


    France


    Prussia


    Russia


    And just for fun, British Militia to compare to Russian line


    As you can see, in terms of shooting, it goes:
    1. Brits
    2. Prussians
    3. French
    4. Austrians
    5. Russians


    The Russians are good in melee I guess, but they are only slightly better (a bit faster at reloading) than British militia at shooting.
    ttt
    Adopted son of Lord Sephiroth, Youngest sibling of Pent uP Rage, Prarara the Great, Nerwen Carnesîr, TB666 and, Boudicca. In the great Family of the Black Prince
     
  19. HellFell said:

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    Actually the russians can tear apart any line infantry (except for british) in melee because they have incredible charge bonus (it's 15-25 men killing when charching in), highest melee and high morale (equal to british but they cost more).

    There is a reason why the russian infantry costs 730 (french 710, prussian 720, austrian 700).

    And I assure you, they can get to the enemy easily because there is no fire by rank
     
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    Jihada said:

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    The usual description of Russian infantry was that they were very stubborn and hard to rout in defense. But rather slow and unimaginative in attack. There are so many contradictions about this period.