Has anyone noticed that canister goes over thier heads

In ETW canister was effective against enimy infantry especially if aimed in front of unit. But in NTW canister goes way over the head of units...it is as if the aim of the gun is 45 degrees of elevation. Canister now does not kill it just harmlessly goes over thier heads. I can't aim it down. Does any one else have this problem? solutions?

Yeah, I noticed canister to be far less useful in NTW than ETW. At least when I'm using it.

yea its to crazy to use now. But a lot of the cannons shoot so in-accurate i play battles with fast forward now lol. Are u guys getting alot of cannons have a hard time going over little tiny hills as well?

Actually I always had this problem with canister in ETW, where troops would just march right in underneath the canister and then melee my arty to death.

In NTW, canister (for me) is working like a charm. Yeah, some of it goes high, but I'm noticing alot more hits in NTW than i did in ETW.

Howitzer cannister does indeed sometimes go over the heads of a unit, depending on how close it is. That's because it's firing at a high elevation.

I haven't noticed a problem with the cannons though.

Think about it this way: you point a 3-inch caliber shotgun at a 6-foot tall building. Depending on the range, quite a bit of that shot WILL go high. And quite a bit of it will bury itself in the ground prior to reaching the target. It's the nature of shot.

What pisses me off about cannister is that if you order it to fire at a unit, more often than not it fires at one of the ENDS of the unit, rather than at the center, thereby minimizing casualties. I have no idea why that is, but I often have to tell it to shoot at the ground right in front of the unit rather than at the unit itself.

Originally Posted by The Vicar

Howitzer cannister does indeed sometimes go over the heads of a unit, depending on how close it is. That's because it's firing at a high elevation.

I haven't noticed a problem with the cannons though.

Think about it this way: you point a 3-inch caliber shotgun at a 6-foot tall building. Depending on the range, quite a bit of that shot WILL go high. And quite a bit of it will bury itself in the ground prior to reaching the target. It's the nature of shot.

What pisses me off about cannister is that if you order it to fire at a unit, more often than not it fires at one of the ENDS of the unit, rather than at the center, thereby minimizing casualties. I have no idea why that is, but I often have to tell it to shoot at the ground right in front of the unit rather than at the unit itself.

Holdover from ETW. If you played Imperial Splendour, with its much longer canister range, you see the same thing. It does it with the regular shots as well sometimes.

Artillery is just way too inaccurate in this game. I mean, I realize that hitting the broad side of a barn was a matter of luck with most cannons, but if NTW is to be believed cannons would have had a hard time hitting the broad side of Earth if it weren't for gravity.

You're saying that arty is too inaccurate? Perhaps at short ranges it is, but at long ranges, round shot in NTW has laser accuracy. If I have 6 or more cannons, I can pretty much expect the enemy general to be killed in the beginning of the battle.

Originally Posted by Swerg

If you played Imperial Splendour, with its much longer canister range...

I love that somebody would say this to me.

Not only did I play Imperial Splendour, I am solely responsible for ALL of the artillery modifications therein.

Since canister leaves the cannon in a cone shape, the gunners have a choice of firing high or losing a certain amount of the cone in the ground. NTW seems to prefer firing high, but I've seen plenty of men fall even the most of the shot appears to go over their heads.

Bottom line, canister shot seems to me to be as effective/accurate as it should be (its like firing off a giant shotgun...accuracy isn't going to be that great). Defending, I've used it to break AI armies almost with cannon alone.

Yes! I did notice this. I wanted to test a bit more before I called it a bug- but in my games canister does zip... just sails harmlessly overhear, even at close (I mean very close) range. I have to make sure that I always aim it manually... kinda a chore to micro manage.

There was not a lot of range of arc for cannons in this time period

I noticed this too with cannister shot. Just sailing harmlessly over their heads repeatedly. Cost me a drop-in battle too. Not very well tested, obviously

Cannister can over their heads, but somehow roundshot, even when many paces behind the lines, somehow finds its way directly through my own soldiers. Odd at best.