Missing KOJ units?

[Jaytee]

If I go to custom battle set up screen as the KOJ I have access to Christian Militia Spearmen, Christian Crossbowmen, Militia of the Kingdom, Dismounted Knights of St. John and the Dismounted Knights of Outremer yet in my game I can not access them.


I'm in the year 1280, have a very large empire but can not build these units anywhere. I am aware that the Dismounted Knights of Outremer are introduced later in the game after an event, but when is this? Also, is this the case for the rest of the units I have mentioned?

[retep219]

The two knights are accessible with the dissolution of the Templar in 1307 and the Inquisitional purge of their order. The militia....I think that they are holdovers from BC 1.05, I'm almost certain that they can't be recruited in 2.02. No idea why you'd want to recruit them, though....

[Jaytee]

No idea why you'd want to recruit them, though....

It would add more choice to my army's makeup and also because the Militia of the Kingdom has a higher defence value than Sergeant Spearmen which are available in the game by +8 AND they have exactly the same values as the Templar Brother Sergeant Spearmen but are cheaper to recruit!

[Lazy Knight]

but that is just because the whole armor system got overhauled in 2.0. You cannot compare those units.

[Captain_Aramsham]

Lots of units from the Custom Battle roster are unavailable in the main campaign, and not just for KoJ either.

Eg. Kypchak Noble Lancers and Khan's Cavalry (which is a shame because it was the Khan's Cavalry that first made me want to play this mod in the first place!)

[wudang_clown]

Yes, some units were removed from unit pools of some factions. The reason they display in the custom battle menu is that they were removed from EDB recruitment lines (so a faction can't recruit them) but weren't removed from the EDU (so they still 'belong' to a faction).

Changes were made mainly to diversify unit pools and thus the gameplay.

[Jaytee]

Yes, some units were removed from unit pools of some factions.... Changes were made mainly to diversify unit pools and thus the gameplay.

How is removing units diversifying the KOJ unit pool? Surely keeping those units in the game would diversify gameplay.

[wudang_clown]

I was referring to Captain_Aramsham's post.

As for KoJ unit pool I have to check it.