WTF?

ok started a campain with brits. 10 turns later i have been bankrupt raped by the frogs and the spain kicks my ass. WTF i didint even have a chance to build a army. but i did build load of farms tradeing ports and lots of stuff to make money but still got my ass handed to me on a plate, and to top it all off the people turn on me and build a big ass army.. im thinking what the hell i couldnt even build a army that size and then they kick me right in the chickin nuggetsGAME OVER, and i had 2 trys. I have being playing TW from the start i have every one of the TW games so it not like im new or anything

so any help would be nice.. or the money cheat. thanks.

Originally Posted by baz44331

ok started a campain with brits. 10 turns later i have been bankrupt raped by the frogs and the spain kicks my ass. WTF i didint even have a chance to build a army. but i did build load of farms tradeing ports and lots of stuff to make money but still got my ass handed to me on a plate, and to top it all off the people turn on me and build a big ass army.. im thinking what the hell i couldnt even build a army that size and then they kick me right in the chickin nuggetsGAME OVER, and i had 2 trys. I have being playing TW from the start i have every one of the TW games so it not like im new or anything

so any help would be nice.. or the money cheat

Cheating takes the fun out of a game. What difficulty did you start with?

i did start on hard the first time.. but when i coped on that i was in over my head i started a new game on normal.

Thats weird, have played as Britain a few times - did you ask for loads of trade agreements?

my first play as Britain, I just did at first what I always do in a new TW game when I don't know what to do...do nothing, at least militarily. As Britain, there is not a single reason to be investing any $$ in the military in the first 10 turns. Send every dime on civic improvements. Be patient, and wait a bit...you'll end up having more money than you can spend as Britain before too long.

As Britain, first things to do:
- take your troops to your ports to protect them
- trade agreements (you aren't new to TW, so I assume you did that)
- immediately drop all your taxes to lowest, or next to lowest (this will build wealth in medium/longer term)
- build roads
- dissolve militias
- keep firing Treasury minister until you get a good one
- research a few industry and civics first before going for military

good luck!

Nanny

yes i see what you mean Nanny sounds good.

Markmilan yes i did. but was limted cos of the port where full or something like that.

..this game is a hole new beast i feel

Basically do what The Nanny says. You should check your income information every turn and see where your expenses are. Most of the time people go bankrupt it's because they have more military units than their treasury can support.

Concentrate on your navy and secure as many trade points as possible. In the campaign I just completed I had all but two trade points on the entire map.

Originally Posted by Pyrofox

Concentrate on your navy and secure as many trade points as possible. In the campaign I just completed I had all but two trade points on the entire map.

ya I forgot to mention that one...Pyro's point is very important...only one or two docks are needed for the endgame, so only make tradeports and burn down/convert any military ports but your main one.

Britian is one of the easiest nations to gain funds on, as you can stay away from combat until your ready (or until your allies start dropping like flies). You have a good amount of farms, mines and ports to build up.

Just dont spend all your money on big ships and armies until you have a good amount of income coming in. Focus on the industry research before anything else, and block trade routes.

Even if you send single cheap ships to do it, they are often blocking the trade routes for 2-3 turns before anyone attacks them, and you may lose a £500 ship, but you can gain around 5-6 times that amount and value from the raid.

Originally Posted by baz44331

ok started a campain with brits. 10 turns later i have been bankrupt raped by the frogs and the spain kicks my ass. WTF i didint even have a chance to build a army. but i did build load of farms tradeing ports and lots of stuff to make money but still got my ass handed to me on a plate, and to top it all off the people turn on me and build a big ass army.. im thinking what the hell i couldnt even build a army that size and then they kick me right in the chickin nuggetsGAME OVER, and i had 2 trys. I have being playing TW from the start i have every one of the TW games so it not like im new or anything

so any help would be nice.. or the money cheat. thanks.

I started a Brit campaign this weekend. The "money cheat" you seek is to simply remember to be very patient as the British. Remove the Spanish and French merchant fleets in the Atlantic, then move Nelson and the majority of the fleet to Gibralter, removing the French and Spanish battle fleets on the way. Keep building up your dockyards ASAP, especially the one at Portsmouth. Upgrade that one on the first turn.
Keep the Spanish and French ports blockaded so they can't produce ships.

All the while keep pounding out the merchantmen and Indiamen, and put 5 in each of the trading spots. You should be able to get ALL of them (save for 1 Portuguese), and when that is done you will have more money than you know what to do with. Right now, at the mid-4th year mark, I have a fleet in both the Med and the channel with about 10 102 guns in each. Spain has been conquered, as have the 3 southernmost French ports. I am 2 turns away from producing ironclads. I have 4 full stack field armies descending on Paris, and 2 more in northern Italy and Austria.

well thanks for all the help guys. so i went back to a save i had and did what Nanny said and it worked THANKS! money cheat make the game boring anyway. but it literally brought me back from dead and now things are move well thanks everyone.

Hey dude enjoy your game! Mikelus' strategy, taking Spain out first, is the one that I use for GB...and you'll find his suggestions for the naval/trade in the Gibraltar area to be very helpful. I did the same thing, seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO-IpHJo36k

cheers!

Vid of EPICNESS

Originally Posted by The Nanny

Hey dude enjoy your game! Mikelus' strategy, taking Spain out first, is the one that I use for GB...and you'll find his suggestions for the naval/trade in the Gibraltar area to be very helpful. I did the same thing, seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO-IpHJo36k

cheers!

That is probably the nicest video I've ever seen. Very nicely done!! Salutes!!

Trade, trade, and trade is the key with Britain!! keep building merchant ships and send them to the theatres , protect them with your warships. Nelsons fleet is the strongest in the game so you should be able to dominate the sea and trade routes.

As stated, trade in all its forms is key.

Also, in the first turn or two, be sure to trade tech for tech with other nations, as you start with a few second tier ones yourself and can easily get all but a few of other first and second tier ones immediately.

Taking out Bataria (or whatever it's called, Holland in my head), with your first army units in one stack gives you another port, a good city and a second research center. Taking Flanders to the south and liberating them into Belgium gives you a nice buffer against the french (since they are not at war), plus another trade partner and protectorate.

I yielded Gibraltar to the spanish without even trying to hold it, since I figured it'd be a drain on resources. The stack that took Holland is now landing in northern Spain and matters will work out that way. Sicily does also look good as a base of naval operations in the Med.

Originally Posted by Daergar

As stated, trade in all its forms is key.

Also, in the first turn or two, be sure to trade tech for tech with other nations, as you start with a few second tier ones yourself and can easily get all but a few of other first and second tier ones immediately.

Taking out Bataria (or whatever it's called, Holland in my head), with your first army units in one stack gives you another port, a good city and a second research center. Taking Flanders to the south and liberating them into Belgium gives you a nice buffer against the french (since they are not at war), plus another trade partner and protectorate.

I yielded Gibraltar to the spanish without even trying to hold it, since I figured it'd be a drain on resources. The stack that took Holland is now landing in northern Spain and matters will work out that way. Sicily does also look good as a base of naval operations in the Med.

I would try and hold Gibraltar. The docks there will be invaluable.

I went bankrupt pretty quick with GB on h/h first time.
Then I made sure I had enough trade,trade ships to America,Defeated Villeneuve and the Spanish fleet with Nelson. I replaced/sacked any justice or treasury ministers that were no good.I just saved enough eventually to build a fort in Gib before the large Spanish stacks started arriving and held on there. I captured Brittany and made it independant ally,then Holland,Balearics.Added as many trade ships as possible.Finally about 1807 took Spain and Catalonia,Navarre and made them protectorates,Navarre a colony to threaten south of France. Started building factories,more trade,captured Flanders and in 1808 Ihave all French ports blockaded and am beating off French attacks in Flanders.
GB is easy enough if you get over the beginning phase.
I notice you don't need to occupy Spain for victory conditions, just make them a protectorate.