Artillery may be a little OP

I don't know how many of you have managed this too, but wow

This is on M/H

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well obviously Denmark sucks
just kidding

but if that would have been my battle I don't think I would be able to quit laughing for a week

Originally Posted by korbell

well obviously Denmark sucks
just kidding

but if that would have been my battle I don't think I would be able to quit laughing for a week

I've invaded Denmark as GB, and I've actually found them being at least somewhat able to defend. However the artillery being OP... YES! I swear you could win a battle with only 2 cavalry units and the rest infantry if you were to do that. Pounding the hell out of them from the start with howitzers and cannons almost ensure an epic morale drop.

This, according to me, feels a bit... bad. But however the artillery during the napoleonic wars were very evolved, and I guess this is just accurate to warfare history. Until patched we won't know

IF you don't like the Artillery in NTW go back to ETW where it was nerfed beyound Usefulness, The howietzers where so horriable no one used them online and the cannon where god awful please stop bugging ca to change things just becouse you don't have the skills to properly deal with artillery, Finely we have it where it should be and someone comes along now and there pants.

Originally Posted by Red_legged_devils

please stop bugging ca to change things just becouse you don't have the skills to properly deal with artillery, Finely we have it where it should be and someone comes along now and there pants.

What part of this was me bugging CA to change anything? I'm flipping thilled I almost got a flawless victory. Calm down, man

Unless you're trolling, then well done

Originally Posted by sharperknives

What part of this was me bugging CA to change anything? I'm flipping thilled I almost got a flawless victory. Calm down, man

Unless you're trolling, then well done

Not a troll just an Oh , Becouse when ever someone opens an (Units Over powerd) Thread we get a bunch of cry babys who wan't everything nerfed and ca listens to those people and it screws the game up!

So its best to run them off before they get a foot hold in the forum

Then...dont..use...arty...(?)

Still, the fact remains this looks kinda cheap to me.

Flawless?

Dude, you lost 4 men. That's not flawless.

I swear, kids these days...

big deal is ? be more impressive SS if you switched to the killed/lost page and not this one

Originally Posted by The Vicar

Flawless?

Dude, you lost 4 men. That's not flawless.

I swear, kids these days...

I dunno, I have a feeling those units may have lost those four guys anyway due to accidents, attrition, AWOL, STDs, etc. He might have actually saved lives by putting them in battle. At least that was the arguement used in Gulf War I, when the White House was saying that statistically more people would have died if all the soldiers had NOT been in Iraq.

There will always be arguements over the rock being too heavy, the paper tearing too easily, or the scissors being too dull.

Artillery works much better now than in ETW which was uselless. Now it is the fear in the Battlefield.
Tip** Avoid to confront the Ottoman Empire if you don't have decent Artillery units.

Originally Posted by Faiakas

Artillery works much better now than in ETW which was uselless. Now it is the fear in the Battlefield.
Tip** Avoid to confront the Ottoman Empire if you don't have decent Artillery units.

Artillery is way too accurate, especially howitzers if you use the targeting and the general's inspiration abitities at the same time, the enemy can say goodbye to their general and their own artillery.

Originally Posted by sopulii

Artillery is way too accurate, especially howitzers if you use the targeting and the general's inspiration abitities at the same time, the enemy can say goodbye to their general and their own artillery.

This is not ETW, Artillery is Much more advanced and deadly at this time, If they kill your genreal then do it back lol common sence right? Also a good player know how to distroy the other players cannons so if your just sitting back and complaineing about being wipped off the map then your doing something wrong.

1. First thing you always do is target there Artillery with YOUR Artillery You should always brang mixed howitzers and cannons, if you have only one or the other then your limiting your self and your attack ablitys, cannons to hit things at long range, and howitzers to kill everything at med to short range....

2. Cav...Lots of good light cav any cav will do, Seek a path around there flanks to take out there guns, but a smart player would never leave there guns in the back of the map he/she would move them with the troops so you might have to rethink how your playing the game. IN ETW the patchs put out made the artillery so bad it was almost not worth the price to pay to use them online, And that made a part of the game pointless becouse people where whineing and ing about being kicked around.....

Problem is if your cannons are this deadly it makes those campers think twice don't ya think? it works for them and against them right?

Then we have the people who get angery at the fact they have to take casualties before there troops even fire a shot or before there cannon can even unlimber, well thats how it works lol These people would rather have the howitzes and cannosn hitting the back of the map at point blank then looseing a few troops here and there, closeing the distance is importent as it was in RL. So if thats not how you like to play then maybe this isnt the game for you.

Originally Posted by Red_legged_devils

This is not ETW, Artillery is Much more advanced and deadly at this time,

I can guarantee that they did not have laser guided cannonballs at this time.

What's the canister shot like? (I have NTW on order).

Is it an improvement on ETW? - where is was actually quite cool but a little too sluggish. I can't find a youtube clip that demonstrates it.

Originally Posted by sopulii

I can guarantee that they did not have laser guided cannonballs at this time.

True, But the game can't last for hours, So you need game balancing so, makeing them more accurate or less to prolong the battle, most online players are more like spree or arcade type players where they just blitz the map, so this is more useful for there tactics then a cannon who can't hit the broad side of a barn But i feel your pain....Slightly

Originally Posted by sopulii

I can guarantee that they did not have laser guided cannonballs at this time.

Also, the battles, didn't involve, like, what ? 1500 men on each side ? but more like 40 000 on each side (ok maybe not always that many, lets say 39 000 ) So missing the ennemy was probably harder than to actually hit him (I mean 40 000 troops, that BIG ).
So I think the canons should be over-accurate, just to make them more potent weapons.

Well, i used Arty in Empre a lot, because they are inflicting good casualties and morale loss upon the enemy as he is not in range for muskets. I did not find them useless at all. The Cannons hit cavalry pretty bad and the giant shotgun in close combat is devastating.
In NTW the artillery becomes more deadly. i usually have 7 regiments of artillery with my stack. 2 12ib cannons, 2 horse cannons and 3 howitzers, maybe 4 sometimes, and therefore i dismiss cavalry.
This rain of shells...damn...looks like hell is loose. The far better range of artillery is also great. Last night i had a huge battle against 2 prussian stacks with one french army. If it wasnt for the howitzers i would have lost Cleve. But they shelled on all prussian advance wherever it was on the map...i had a perfect position on a hill overwatching the battlefield and my cannons took out the enemy artillery. Pretty damn beautiful...if i only knew how to make videos to upload them on youtube

Originally Posted by sopulii

Artillery is way too accurate, especially howitzers if you use the targeting and the general's inspiration abitities at the same time, the enemy can say goodbye to their general and their own artillery.

There are different types of Artillery which have different accuracy %.
Currently playing Russia and the small 6lbres cannons has 60points accuracy which works rather well!!!
Furthermost, there are many technology points, that allow the upgrade of accuracy significally!!

I'm quite happy with this change, because now we can have a complete army here, comparing to ETW that we almost add infantry and some cavalry, while Artillery was the worst choice there.