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    Default ETW Seige: Can't get infantry through hole in wall

    Thanks for any help. I've done some searching and not come up with a solution.

    I'm pretty new to the entire Total War thing and I really like it. I've just been doing play battles to get the basics down. But one thing I can't seem to get is this.

    In a siege, if I blast a hole in a wall and try to send in my troops they seem to get confused and can't make it in. Even when the enemy is not defending the breach the line infantry cannot seem to make it through and end up either bunching up and doing nothing, running for an other hole in the wall/door or getting split up some how and not responding to my commands.

    Is their some trick to getting them into the fort once the walls are opened? I usually just have to give up, move them back and climb over. Frustrating.

    Also, how can I command the grenadiers to throw grenades? There is something basic that I'm missing here. They just seem to stand there most of the time and I end up using them as infantry.

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    Default Re: ETW Seige: Can't get infantry through hole in wall

    @RocscoeT,

    Hi,

    Easy stuff first:
    Grenadiers: When you click on your unit of grandiers, There is a button that looks like it has a bomb in it. It's actually a grenade.
    You press that button down and Voila! Your grenadiers will throw grenades, however the range of grenades is shorter than shooting.

    Try them out in a custom battle to get used to them.

    Harder stuff:
    Sieges: Part of what many people, myself included, have complained about is the ability of units to get inside a Fort, particularly when a great big hole has been created!

    That issue of troops not going thru the hole in the wall is a pathfinding issue (It's hardcoded in other words and nobody in this community can change it).

    Having said that, try to constantly direct your troops via clicking and pointing them in the direction you want them to go until they finally do.

    Also, check to see if you have any other pathfinding issues:
    Ex. Do a custom battle: Austria vs. Austria and choose about 2 line infantry & 2 light infantry and choose the Grassy Flatlands as a test battleground and just press the Fast Forward button.

    If you DO have Battle Artificial Intelligence pathfinding issues, 2 things will happen:
    1. The enemies' light infantry will fire at your line, only to rush your line after the line infantry get destroyed, basically.
    2. The enemies line infantry will pop off a few rounds and then rush to the center of your line as well.

    CA said they will put out a BAI pathfinding fix/update. Watch the official totalwar forums for more info. I think it's called patch 1.6, as the most recent patch is 1.5
    hellas1
    Last edited by hellas1; February 28, 2010 at 08:10 PM.

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    Default Re: ETW Seige: Can't get infantry through hole in wall

    I never have problems getting through breeches in fort walls, unless they have a wall of men guarding the hole.

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    Default Re: ETW Seige: Can't get infantry through hole in wall

    orrrrrr, you can play the darth mod and forget about CA's patch, all hail Darth_Vader

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    Default Re: ETW Seige: Can't get infantry through hole in wall

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth_Revan View Post
    orrrrrr, you can play the darth mod and forget about CA's patch, all hail Darth_Vader
    I never liked it. lol

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    Default Re: ETW Seige: Can't get infantry through hole in wall

    Quote Originally Posted by Lumina View Post
    I never liked it. lol
    Blasphemy, this is madness!!!, Madness? THIS IS DARTH MOD!!:sparta:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth_Revan View Post
    Blasphemy, this is madness!!!, Madness? THIS IS DARTH MOD!!:sparta:
    Just a person who likes mods that do not change the atmosphere of a game. Little addons like units, and new playable factions are fine, Darth Mod does too much. lol

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    Default Re: ETW Seige: Can't get infantry through hole in wall

    Quote Originally Posted by hellas1 View Post
    @RocscoeT,

    Hi,

    Easy stuff first:
    Grenadiers: When you click on your unit of grandiers, There is a button that looks like it has a bomb in it. It's actually a grenade.
    You press that button down and Voila! Your grenadiers will throw grenades, however the range of grenades is shorter than shooting.

    Try them out in a custom battle to get used to them.

    Harder stuff:
    Sieges: Part of what many people, myself included, have complained about is the ability of units to get inside a Fort, particularly when a great big hole has been created!

    That issue of troops not going thru the hole in the wall is a pathfinding issue (It's hardcoded in other words and nobody in this community can change it).
    ...
    CA said they will put out a BAI pathfinding fix/update. Watch the official totalwar forums for more info. I think it's called patch 1.6, as the most recent patch is 1.5
    hellas1
    Thanks, that's good to know about path finding issues.

    With the grenadiers, Should I turn off fire at will? or will they lob grenades until told to stop or what? I've read about people saying that they are constantly clicking the 'nade button for some reason.
    Did I miss something?

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    Default Re: ETW Seige: Can't get infantry through hole in wall

    @RoscoeT,

    Grenadiers do NOT default to throwing grenades. Period.

    You must constantly click on the grenade button to enable them to throw grenades dude.

    Insofar as fire at will is concerned, it's up to you!
    hellas1

    BTW, DID you get the pathfinding issues in your test custom battle?
    Most EVERYONE here in this forum has BAI pathfinding issues where your enemy's forces rush toward you line's center, and also form squares 50 feet away from your line and also shuffle back and forth in front of one another and shift front to back of each other as well, getting DECIMATED as a result, giving you a "Heroic Victory" every time! That really sucks, incidentally A year later and no fix!

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    Default Re: ETW Seige: Can't get infantry through hole in wall

    Quote Originally Posted by RosoceT View Post
    Thanks for any help. I've done some searching and not come up with a solution.

    I'm pretty new to the entire Total War thing and I really like it. I've just been doing play battles to get the basics down. But one thing I can't seem to get is this.

    In a siege, if I blast a hole in a wall and try to send in my troops they seem to get confused and can't make it in. Even when the enemy is not defending the breach the line infantry cannot seem to make it through and end up either bunching up and doing nothing, running for an other hole in the wall/door or getting split up some how and not responding to my commands.

    Is their some trick to getting them into the fort once the walls are opened? I usually just have to give up, move them back and climb over. Frustrating.

    Also, how can I command the grenadiers to throw grenades? There is something basic that I'm missing here. They just seem to stand there most of the time and I end up using them as infantry.
    welcome to ETW!
    Quote Originally Posted by Jean=A=Luc View Post
    What the hell is wrong with you people?

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