There was a message after I took Moscow about the area being cold and how I fought hard through winter and such when I purposely waited for Spring unlike Napoleon and Hitler. Makes no sense.
There was a message after I took Moscow about the area being cold and how I fought hard through winter and such when I purposely waited for Spring unlike Napoleon and Hitler. Makes no sense.
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Napoleon didn't not wait until spring...
Napoleon invaded Russia in June. He was in Moscow in September.
Operation Barbarossa was launched in June as well.
In conclusion, both Hitler and Napoleon invaded Russia in summer. Abort/ignore/retry?
If anything Spring is generally worse than Fall, tempature wise... Overall it wasnt the time of year that was Nappy and others failure it was Russian scorched earth and utter defensive fall back that won their war of attrition.
*Ahem*
A quick look shows that the daily mean in Moscow in June is 63F (12.8C), going down to 41F (5C) in October. Perhaps a bit chilly for a Corsican, but probably bearable. Things start getting cold in November, when the mean temp drops to 29F ( -1.6C).
Napoleon only started to suffer from the weather once he was retreating. Before that the main 'natural' contributors to his casualties outside of battle would have been the hordes of angry Russian peasants who were convinced he was the anti-christ and Cossacks.
It's too bad the game doesn't model these, eh?
Actually, I demand that in the next patch CA add an 'angry russian peasants' event. Every turn you're in Russian territory as the French, there's a random chance that your troops will be attacked by a varying number of peasant women wielding dirty farm implements. Or a horde of screaming horsemen who were basically the land-equivalent of pirates.
*Ahem*Yeah, and also everyone there has a tamed bear as pet, wears silly hat and drinks vodka all the time.
Its around 20C in June.
And don't forget the bears!Actually, I demand that in the next patch CA add an 'angry russian peasants' event. Every turn you're in Russian territory as the French, there's a random chance that your troops will be attacked by a varying number of peasant women wielding dirty farm implements. Or a horde of screaming horsemen who were basically the land-equivalent of pirates.
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"Anyone who clings to the historically untrue — and thoroughly immoral — doctrine that "violence never solves anything" I would advise to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and of the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it."
R. A. Heinlein
Steam: ElKobold
Haha if there can be a Bedouin camel swarm in the Egypt Campaign I don't see why there shouldn't be an angry Russian peasant mob in the Europe Campaign![]()
Oh the Bedouin camel swarm was classic man. Thank god for Square.... LOL.
Err... I play Russia in the European campaign so I looooove cold winterscuz my tough moujiks resist the cold (=take no damage) unlike all other opponents. Liberating all balkans (Romania, Greece) from Ottoman oppression was fun too, as was liberating Germans from French & Prussian oppression.
I am Aleksandr the Liberatorwho would have guessed?
I think that the best for an invasion of Russia, if you play France or those two-faced Prussians, is to launch attacks in March with 2 or 3 full stacks. Don't wait until summer because, as It happened w. Nap & Hitler, you won't have enough time to reach Moscow before Winter... and then you're done - just like them.
Not gonna work.
It's March now, and its still below zero and occasional blizzard in Baltics, let alone heartland Russia![]()
"Anyone who clings to the historically untrue — and thoroughly immoral — doctrine that "violence never solves anything" I would advise to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and of the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it."
R. A. Heinlein
Steam: ElKobold
Well northern lands are freezing so:
- try to invade from the south by seizing Kiev ASAP.
- Maybe wait for real spring time in April
- jump from one settlement to another: troops don't take weather damage when they're inside a city/compound whatever It is (fabric, mine, etc). That means to carefully check your path. Also, taking damage for just 1 turn is OK if you can reach & conquer a province capital on the next turn. Then you will rebuild your troops. That's how I submitted the bedouins in Egypt. OK, Russia is way harder... as Napoleon, I'm not there yet.
Last edited by Big Pacha; March 03, 2010 at 01:46 PM.