Bored in the Afterlife

[ROFL Copter]

Seems to me that the biggest problem with absolute paradise for all time and eternity is that I would get bored at some point. Sure, having everything and no problems would be great for a while, but what about after your done stuff to do? If there are absolutely no issues or problems how will you ever feel accomplished? Isn't life all about solving problems?

[Simon Cashmere]

Seems to me that the biggest problem with absolute paradise for all time and eternity is that I would get bored at some point. Sure, having everything and no problems would be great for a while, but what about after your done stuff to do? If there are absolutely no issues or problems how will you ever feel accomplished? Isn't life all about solving problems?

Well you wont have to worry about it, because there is no afterlife. So problem solved.

It is a great crutch for the weakminded though. Let's all go to magical Jesusland after we die! Just because a ridiculous belief is widely held, doesn't mean that it becomes any less ridiculous. Truth is not determined democratically.

[kesa82]

Well you wont have to worry about it, because there is no afterlife. So problem solved.

It is a great crutch for the weakminded though. Let's all go to magical Jesusland after we die! Just because a ridiculous belief is widely held, doesn't mean that it becomes any less ridiculous. Truth is not determined democratically.

Maybe the fat, ugly, drooling, wall-eyed, sterile girl in the wheelchair that nobody wants isn't weak-minded.
Oh, never mind.

[kesa82]

It's a good question. What to do with infinite time?

But then, its been a long 40 years, and yet it all seems like it was all just one brief summer afternoon.
And George Washington was really just yesterday.

And there are ideas like this ;

I think the past is tangible. It only appears to go away. In heaven you can actually go time travelling into the past. you can actually go visit joan of Arc on the battlefield, in 1431.
But more than that ; what was Joan of Arc actually thinking and feeling ?
Climb into her skin and find out.
read her mind. feel her heart beat.
I want to go a step further, I want to live Kelly Sartin's entire life, from birth to death, without, even, any awareness of myself. strictly thinking , feeling, experiencing her life without even a residual awareness of my alien presence there.

And when I get through learning about her, just the short list is 40 people. the long list must be over a thousand.

All stupid dreams ? It was a genuine question right ?

[ROFL Copter]

Well you wont have to worry about it, because there is no afterlife. So problem solved.

It is a great crutch for the weakminded though. Let's all go to magical Jesusland after we die! Just because a ridiculous belief is widely held, doesn't mean that it becomes any less ridiculous. Truth is not determined democratically.

I meant theoretically. You could be a little more creative than this.

[Spiff]

The biggest flaw i can see in the idea of eternal paradise is that it requires you to not care about the condition of those suffering in hell. To most, such a complete disregard for another's welfare would require a serious alteration to their personality - in essence they would no longer be themselves.

Also the fact that god apparently makes no allowance for people who simply want to die. Is it possible to accept god but reject heaven?

[Monarchist]

It is a great crutch for the weakminded though.

We surely appreciate your condescending view of us.

What many smarmy atheists don't seem to realise is that believers don't see the afterlife as some large banquet. We don't think that the corporeal body is maintained. There is no literal, gigantic party celebrating arrival. It is said that once we arrive, the joy, light, glory, and endless perfection of God will enrapture us. Some people believe angels will simply subsume our individual personalities into God, and others believe we shall retain our singular consciousnesses. Either way, it isn't some great, pompous feast with golden streets and fountains of silver.

Just because Hollywood has bequeathed us with images of streets paved with precious metals doesn't make it so.

Of course, there is also the possibility that the afterlife is not one bit like any of the stereotypes. In such a case, there is no telling about boredom, joy, sorrow, happiness, or torture. We may be set in jars for God to admire for all time, we may become "one" with God, or we may lounge about on infinitely comfortable beanbags. Don't dismiss the endless beauty and possibilities of God. We might just all be given an instrument at the end of time to simply perform, tirelessly, a symphony of the multitudes. Who cares? It doesn't affect us now, so stop worrying about it.

[hellheaven1987]

Well, you can try to challenge Gods. Must be very fun to kill a God.

[Legionary Jezza]

Well, you can try to challenge Gods. Must be very fun to kill a God.

Kratos Agrees with this.


-Evil

[Banana Jelly]

That's the thing, you cant get bored in heaven. You get anything you want, you get the thrill and danger if you will, without the risk of dieing. You get to do thing's you never did in Earth. You get to do 99 virgins

[empr guy]

That's the thing, you cant get bored in heaven. You get anything you want, you get the thrill and danger if you will, without the risk of dieing. You get to do thing's you never did in Earth. You get to do 99 virgins

99 virgins? i thought it was 72

but what do you do once you've done everything you wanted to? Do you realize how long eternity is? You would literaly run out of things to do. The only way you wouldnt try to kill yourself (after-afterlife?) is if after every thousand years or something you forget EVERYTHING you have already done. Otherwise you would do everything, and then have nothing left to do it, and still have forever to do it in.

[kesa82]

Do you realize how long eternity is?

An hour in jail ?

A circa 1919 movie I just watched in which everyone appearing in front of the camera, or working behind it, has been dead 20 years ?

[DekuTrash]

Something I jotted down many months ago. Might not directly address the Q but it's in the general area.

A freakin' eternal arcade

Experiencing different lives and things, stuff like that
hmmmm.....Today I'll live as a Hoplite in ancient Greece,when im done with that I think i'll hang aroud the 1930's,damn I really like the Matrix movies....What would it be like to live in that world?Bah, I'm tired of freaking robots chasing me around, I think i'll go to the Magic the Gathering universe.Yawn, 100 years of high school? Ok I guess.Me and my buddies kickin' ass in Ancient egypt? ok! oh! I can be a stud soccer player? Nice.Blah I wanna be a high tech crime fighter in NYC now.

You get the idea

[RVFVS]

There is no afterlife. The entire point of normal life would go out the window. One could say life is a test but that is ridiculous. If life is a test and some go to heaven and other go to hell due to ten commandments (using Christianity as an example) then I would call God not only cruel but an idiot. Everyone lies, everyone cheats, everyone steals...we're all going to hell.

There is no God, there is no afterlife...question answered.

[Banana Jelly]

99 virgins? i thought it was 72

but what do you do once you've done everything you wanted to? Do you realize how long eternity is? You would literaly run out of things to do. The only way you wouldnt try to kill yourself (after-afterlife?) is if after every thousand years or something you forget EVERYTHING you have already done. Otherwise you would do everything, and then have nothing left to do it, and still have forever to do it in.

There are infinite amount of thing's you can do in infinite amount of time. You have families, friend's, anything. You are and can be much more creative in your mind, and you can make it happen. It could be just like now, where you get to pirate games, but it's not actually piracy, since it's free, or other crap like that lol


Oh, I feel like doing teh 99 virgin's rather then 72 pls

Nonsense. God would want you to obey him 100% - means no sex, no alcohol, no private life. A slave for God, obviously.

No, he want's you to obey him now, and have fun in the after life. He set's thing's like pleasure (Sex, games) legal in heaven. You don't have to pray. This is the same concept I think with all the monotheistic religion. Ofcourse, your still a believer and worshipper of god, but you just have more freedom. There are no limitation's in heaven except the obvious, such as murder and other things. Sex is definitley not banned. It say's in the book, you have 99 virgin's when you go to heaven (best it be 99 male virgins or female) I prefer female.

[Fiyenyaa]

No, he want's you to obey him now, and have fun in the after life. He set's thing's like pleasure (Sex, games) legal in heaven. You don't have to pray. This is the same concept I think with all the monotheistic religion. Ofcourse, your still a believer and worshipper of god, but you just have more freedom. There are no limitation's in heaven except the obvious, such as murder and other things. Sex is definitley not banned. It say's in the book, you have 99 virgin's when you go to heaven (best it be 99 male virgins or female) I prefer female.

This is so ridiculous.

What the hell is the point in leading some kind of pious life on earth if god just says "hey, now you can go mental up here and do whatever you want"? Why do you need a test to see who is worthy of being a debauched, lecherous drunk? Why does god punish those who do the very things he allows in heaven if he just does them on earth?

[Lysimachus]

This is so ridiculous.

What the hell is the point in leading some kind of pious life on earth if god just says "hey, now you can go mental up here and do whatever you want"? Why do you need a test to see who is worthy of being a debauched, lecherous drunk? Why does god punish those who do the very things he allows in heaven if he just does them on earth?

Also, if God is omnipotent then why would he need to test us? He already knows what is going to happen, so in a sense it's cruel that he would deceive us in to thinking that we have to be tested to see whether we are worthy to go in to heaven or not if the result is already pre-determined.

I think that is the point.

The problem is, since the bible is hypocritical in many ways the different beliefs that supposedly make up God's mindset would clash with one another.

Clearly.

Considering religion is a human invention, i'm inclined to believe there is no afterlife.

[Banana Jelly]

This is so ridiculous.

What the hell is the point in leading some kind of pious life on earth if god just says "hey, now you can go mental up here and do whatever you want"? Why do you need a test to see who is worthy of being a debauched, lecherous drunk? Why does god punish those who do the very things he allows in heaven if he just does them on earth?

Having a life on Earth is restricted, while in heaven is not that strict, yet there are rules. I don't know why, so ask god in the day of judgement. Yet I don't know the exact rules, I can only think. He said we could have a number of virgin's so, I guess from my interpretation that we are allowed to do virgins. Yet you complain to me why god punish people for what we do in earth, where he wouldn't on heaven, SIMPLE ANSWER... THEY EARNED IT. It's like a privilege. You are restricted of your privelege here, and allowed privilege on heaven if you go there. But that only happen's if you are good here. Theres something called free will, do determine from right or wrong, which I gave a lengthy post, in the other thread.

to see whether we are worthy to go in to heaven or not if the result is already pre-determined.

We determine if we are going to strive for heaven or not. That's why god determines if we are going to heaven or hell in The day of Judgement. It is like our 6th sense, we decide what we are going to do. God can intervene in our future, yet we decide our actions.

[hellheaven1987]

That's the thing, you cant get bored in heaven. You get anything you want, you get the thrill and danger if you will, without the risk of dieing. You get to do thing's you never did in Earth. You get to do 99 virgins

Nonsense. God would want you to obey him 100% - means no sex, no alcohol, no private life. A slave for God, obviously.

[Claudius Gothicus]

That's the thing, you cant get bored in heaven. You get anything you want, you get the thrill and danger if you will, without the risk of dieing. You get to do thing's you never did in Earth. You get to do 99 virgins

But where's the adrenaline without real danger? you see, it's all about risk, there's no risk if you never face the consecuences. Virgins are overrated by the way.