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    Default Religion in the work-place, allowed?

    I would like some opinions.
    Should Islamics/Jews/Christians ect. be allowed to take their religious holidays off work?
    Should religious people be allowed to wear religious items in place of uniform? e.g. A policeman with a turban?

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    No at home you can goats but in a public place you should not be allowed to spreadd all over.


    Religious extremism is already a problem we don't need more like that
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    Quote Originally Posted by STemptation View Post
    I would like some opinions.
    Should Islamics/Jews/Christians ect. be allowed
    "Allowed" ? That's interesting.


    Quote Originally Posted by STemptation View Post
    I would like some opinions.
    Should Islamics/Jews/Christians ect. be allowed to take their religious holidays off work?

    Worst comes to worst they will anyway. Worst comes to worst, you just lie and call in sick.
    In the town I grew up in we had a large community of Jews. It was nothing formal, but the administration and teachers at school knew perfectly well that their Jewish pupils would not be attending school on certain dates.


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    Should religious people be allowed to wear religious items in place of uniform? e.g. A policeman with a turban?

    Really? That would be neat ! Colorful ! I wish they would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STemptation View Post
    Should Islamics/Jews/Christians ect. be allowed to take their religious holidays off work?
    No

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    A policeman with a turban?
    Yes.

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    Sayeth John Calvin , " Nay to your devious sloth you Papist scoundrel ! F---- you, get back to work ! "

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    Quote Originally Posted by STemptation View Post
    I would like some opinions.
    Should Islamics/Jews/Christians ect. be allowed to take their religious holidays off work?
    With in reason. Obviously if some one wants every other day off of work for some religious holiday than he's going to have problems, but I see no reason to prevent people from having a reasonable number of days off of work, regardless of their reason. Don't many jobs give vacation/sick days anyway?

    Quote Originally Posted by STemptation View Post
    Should religious people be allowed to wear religious items in place of uniform? e.g. A policeman with a turban?
    As long as the clothing does not interfere with their work. For example, a model for jeans could wear a Hijab and still do the job, but wearing a floor length burka would be a problem.
    If the soul is impartial in receiving information, it devotes to that information the share of critical investigation the information deserves, and its truth or untruth thus becomes clear. However, if the soul is infected with partisanship for a particulat opinion or sect, it accepts without a moment’s hesitation the information that is agreeable to it.—Ibn Khaldun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian View Post
    No at home you can goats but in a public place you should not be allowed to spreadd all over.
    Religious extremism is already a problem we don't need more like that
    Interesting... Not very religious I assume?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boer View Post
    With in reason. Obviously if some one wants every other day off of work for some religious holiday than he's going to have problems, but I see no reason to prevent people from having a reasonable number of days off of work, regardless of their reason. Don't many jobs give vacation/sick days anyway?
    Yes, the could use their annual leve to cover any religious holiday, but when here are too many people who want to take t day off, it may become a bit of a problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by kesa82 View Post
    Worst comes to worst they will anyway. Worst comes to worst, you just lie and call in sick.
    In the town I grew up in we had a large community of Jews. It was nothing formal, but the administration and teachers at school knew perfectly well that their Jewish pupils would not be attending school on certain dates.
    Agreed, but in the case of work, pulling a "sickie" is illegal and if you get caught, best start finding yourself a new job.


    As for the policement wearing turbans which does happen in the UK, you answered:

    Quote Originally Posted by kesa82 View Post
    Really? That would be neat ! Colorful ! I wish they would.
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    Yes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Boer View Post
    As long as the clothing does not interfere with their work. For example, a model for jeans could wear a Hijab and still do the job, but wearing a floor length burka would be a problem.


    In my opinion, it should not be allowed. The helmets are for protection.
    So should they be allowed to wear them without recieving compensation if they get hurt? Or, should they be forced to wear helmets?

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    I think businesses should be able to decide whether they allow religion to interfere with work. The government shouldn't get into these affairs at all. Businesses should be able to fire employees who use religion to get special treatment. Asking for a day off because your religion says you shouldn't work is like a Libertarian doctor refusing to treat someone with Medicare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STemptation View Post
    I would like some opinions.
    Should Islamics/Jews/Christians ect. be allowed to take their religious holidays off work?
    Should religious people be allowed to wear religious items in place of uniform? e.g. A policeman with a turban?
    depends what the business thinks. and yes on the religious holidays, all work and no play makes jack an atheist

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    Quote Originally Posted by STemptation View Post
    I would like some opinions.
    Should Islamics/Jews/Christians ect. be allowed to take their religious holidays off work?
    Should religious people be allowed to wear religious items in place of uniform? e.g. A policeman with a turban?
    Yes for both.


    Im being from a un-bias point of view, even though I am theist. I would allow any. Even day's off for atheist celebration of anything like "Theist suck day" or whatever lol. It's contrary to whatever belief you follow.

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    i agree with Mr Pink
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    Quote Originally Posted by STemptation View Post
    I would like some opinions.
    Should Muslims/Jews/Christians ect. be allowed to take their religious holidays off work?
    Yeah, sure. Any religion, as well, of course. Otherwise it'd be violating the equal protection clause.

    Should religious people be allowed to wear religious items in place of uniform? e.g. A policeman with a turban?
    Yeah. It's not imposing their religion on others. It's just them practising their right to free speech and the free exercise of religion.

    Quote Originally Posted by STemptation View Post
    Or, should they be forced to wear helmets?
    There's no reason they can't wear a helmet over the turban. Or wear the helmet AS an ad-hoc turban.
    Last edited by MaximiIian; February 27, 2010 at 01:30 AM.

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    Lots of you say it should be alright for people taking religious holidays off work.
    It obvious private businesses can impose whatever rules they want, but how about government?
    Sunday is the holy day for the jews (or so I believe), so is that to mean every jew in Israel can take the day off? You'll have no police, no doctors, no soldiers.
    ????
    If jews have to work on their holy day in Israel, shouldn't it be the same everywhere else?

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    I think maybe the religious should be allowed their religious holidays but I'm completely against religious items worn at work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXand View Post
    I think maybe the religious should be allowed their religious holidays but I'm completely against religious items worn at work.
    This is my View on it also.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adhamh Ashashi View Post
    Well they shouldn't be compoulsary, as some people don't take religious holidays, but I take both Eid's off from school and my parents get exemptation to take the days off, because they are willing to work during Catholic holidays, so it balances out in a way.


    And yes, if someone wants to wear a religious symbol they should, it is a free country, let them wear what they want.
    aldo my Family when they were Jewish were made to take just Catholic holidays off. ( lifes not fair at all) also (Adhamh Ashashi is living in Ireland for peolpe that are reading this)

    as long as the symbol isit sexist and I find must religious symbols sexist

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    Quote Originally Posted by STemptation View Post
    If jews have to work on their holy day in Israel, shouldn't it be the same everywhere else?
    This is why it's a stupid, inflexible rule that one cannot work on a holy day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaximiIian View Post
    This is why it's a stupid, inflexible rule that one cannot work on a holy day.
    I agree, it is most inefficient, but you could refrain from calling it "stupid".

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    Quote Originally Posted by STemptation View Post
    I agree, it is most inefficient, but you could refrain from calling it "stupid".
    Read about the law that Jews have for the Shabbat - it is stupid. There are Rabbis who seriously discuss whether it's ok to pick your nose on the Shabbat because you may accidentally pluck out a nose-hair when you do so - and cutting hair is considered work. You aren't allowed the press a damn button, because that's considered work.
    When you are a grown-up, adult, and you think that you need to make a law which tells people they can't shove their finger up their nose on a certain day of the week, I really don't know what to say to you. But stupid most certainly describes such behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiyenyaa View Post
    Read about the law that Jews have for the Shabbat - it is stupid. There are Rabbis who seriously discuss whether it's ok to pick your nose on the Shabbat because you may accidentally pluck out a nose-hair when you do so - and cutting hair is considered work. You aren't allowed the press a damn button, because that's considered work.
    When you are a grown-up, adult, and you think that you need to make a law which tells people they can't shove their finger up their nose on a certain day of the week, I really don't know what to say to you. But stupid most certainly describes such behavior.
    But how many companies are going to higher 100% orthodox Jewish workers (unless the owner is one, in which case he can't really expect them to work on Shabbat). In reality, virtually all companies have employees with a wide variety of religious views. There are always going to be employees willing to work on any given day, be it Christmas, Ramadan or Yom Kippur. No company is going to force every worker to work 365 days a year, so every one will be getting days off anyway. Even at a hospital, as long as enough workers show up to cover the shifts, what does it matter if the rest or on holiday?
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    Quote Originally Posted by STemptation View Post
    I agree, it is most inefficient, but you could refrain from calling it "stupid".
    Yes, I could.
    But I'm not going to.

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