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    Default Great mod

    Great mod I ever seen. but I want to say somethig about mod

    Pontus Kingdom must have own strong heavy cav

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    Emm, you mean they don't have good enough cavalry? The only heavy cavalry in this mod are the elephants and the cataphracts and as far as I remember, Pontos had neither. Other than that, they have very good medium and light horse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by torongill View Post
    Emm, you mean they don't have good enough cavalry? The only heavy cavalry in this mod are the elephants and the cataphracts and as far as I remember, Pontos had neither. Other than that, they have very good medium and light horse.
    As you said they have medium and light horse

    I think mod team must add new heavy cavalry, cuz Pontus Kingdom had great cav force

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    They have Khūveshavagān, which are heavy cavalry, just not real cataphracts. Also their bodyguard units are almost cataphracts. In Galatia, you get Galatian heavy cavalry as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by athanaric View Post
    They have Khūveshavagān, which are heavy cavalry, just not real cataphracts. Also their bodyguard units are almost cataphracts. In Galatia, you get Galatian heavy cavalry as well.
    I know Khūveshavagān cav are good but not very good and all eastern kingdom can have Khūveshavagān

    I mean, I want to say special cavalry for Pontus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sipahi of Rūm View Post
    I know Khūveshavagān cav are good but not very good and all eastern kingdom can have Khūveshavagān

    I mean, I want to say special cavalry for Pontus
    Give us your evidence then and we will take a look at it. Coming onto our forums and demanding stuff because you want it is a good way to make us not listen to you. If you like EB so much, show us a little respect and give us something to work with other than "cos I say so".

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    Pontos was not the Ottoman Empire, Sipahi This mod is trying to be realistic. I certainly wouldn't mind Roman "Martian armored fanatics phalanx companion cohort" but there is almost no way of having them, although they were present in almost all the great battles of Rome - Asculum, Ilipa, Zama, Guagamela, Pharsalus, Alesia, Manzikert, Poitiers, Bannockburn, Mount Baddon, Breitensfeld, Borodino, Waterloo and Bastogne, to name a few.
    Last edited by torongill; February 27, 2010 at 04:43 PM. Reason: forgot Borodino and Waterloo
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    Quote Originally Posted by torongill View Post
    Pontos was not the Ottoman Empire, Sipahi This mod is trying to be realistic. I certainly wouldn't mind Roman "Martian armored fanatics phalanx companion cohort" but there is almost no way of having them, although they were present in almost all the great battles of Rome - Asculum, Ilipa, Zama, Guagamela, Pharsalus, Alesia, Manzikert, Poitiers, Bannockburn, Mount Baddon, Breitensfeld, Bastogne, to name a few.

    Don't forget Waterloo.

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    Pontus Kingdom was one of successors of Achaemenid Empire. same culture same language same army system etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sipahi of Rūm View Post
    Pontus Kingdom was one of successors of Achaemenid Empire. same culture same language same army system etc.
    Pontus was a Persian splinter kingdom not a successer state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by War lord View Post
    Pontus was a Persian splinter kingdom not a successer state.
    Whats the difference?

    The Pontic ruling family used to govern the city of Kios in Bithynia for both the Persians and later the Diadochi, the last ruler of Kios fled after hearing he was about to be assasinated and founded the Kingdom of Pontos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbin View Post
    Whats the difference?

    The Pontic ruling family used to govern the city of Kios in Bithynia for both the Persians and later the Diadochi, the last ruler of Kios fled after hearing he was about to be assasinated and founded the Kingdom of Pontos.
    The army nor it's ruling family wern't greeks or Macedonen.

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    You replied to this quote
    Quote Originally Posted by Sipahi of Rūm View Post
    Pontus Kingdom was one of successors of Achaemenid Empire. same culture same language same army system etc.
    with this
    Pontus was a Persian splinter kingdom not a successer state.
    My point was that there is no difference between a "Persian splinter kingdom" and a "successor of Achaemenid Empire", they are both the same thing.

    Your are right about the ruling family not being greek, as I said they were decended from the Persian rulers of Kios (although they did become very mixed later on).
    Btw a lot of the Pontic army, especially in later times, actually was greek.

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    in Ancient era Sinope was greek yes, but in middle age Sinope was Turkish city. in ancient era Trapezous wasnt greek but Persian.

    in middle age Trapezous became greek city, later became Turkish

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    The point still stands, there were Greeks in the Pontic Kingdom.

    Also Trapezous was a greek city during the ancient era, it was founded by greeks and the people living there spoke greek from then until well into the Ottoman era, it may have payed tribute or been a part of the Persian Empire but that doesn't make them Persians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbin View Post
    The point still stands, there were Greeks in the Pontic Kingdom.

    Also Trapezous was a greek city during the ancient era, it was founded by greeks and the people living there spoke greek from then until well into the Ottoman era, it may have payed tribute or been a part of the Persian Empire but that doesn't make them Persians.
    Trapezous became Greek city in byzantine era.

    in ancient era Trapezous was very mixed; Greek, Persian, Anatolian etc. but not only greek

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sipahi of Rūm View Post
    Trapezous became Greek city in byzantine era.

    in ancient era Trapezous was very mixed; Greek, Persian, Anatolian etc. but not only greek
    I suspect the majority of them would have been Greek though, even if the minority reflected the composition of the surrounding peoples and of Anatolia itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knonfoda View Post
    I suspect the majority of them would have been Greek though
    good post
    Last edited by Sipahi of Rūm; March 01, 2010 at 02:40 PM.

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