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    Nietzsche, German philosopher, said: "The German is an expert on secret paths to chaos." Churchill wrote: "The Germans, after all, had been belligerent for 2000 years. British public schoolboys were taught that Civilisation stops at the Rhine and the Danube. "A Hun alive is a War in prospect" (Biography William Manchester).

    By early 1930s Germany succeeded in arousing in her neighbours the terror at which they were expert, deliberately promoted by Karl von Clausewitz, in two wars, as Schrecklichkeit (terror); the Prussian strategist's secret weapon to shorten wars. In the 1914 war German troops behaved "frightfully", executing, without mercy, civilians, hostages, prisoners, as ordered by superiors. Barbara Tuchman wrote, " Suddenly the world became aware of the beast beneath the German skin".

    According to Gerald Flurry, the German roots go further back than Churchill's estimate of 2000 years of belligerency, right back to the Bible and Noah's son Shem. He bore a son Assur, progenitor of those fierce warriors, the Assyrians. Dr Hoch, in his Compendium of World History described ancient Assyria as "the greatest war-making power in history, dedicated to ferocity, bloodshed and manslaughter. Fabled for their fierce barbarism". "The Assyrians came down like a wolf on the fold...". That same barbaric vein continued in their descendants, named by Tacitus c. 55 A.D. as: "The Germani, warlike people". So they ever have remained, warlike and ever aggressive, even in defeat. Evinced in Tiglath Pileser lst, Emperor of Assyria, who conquered Babylon c.1100 BC., hated and feared for his ruthlessness and cruelty in warfare.

    James McCabe (History of the World) names the Assyrians: "... a fierce, treacherous race - they never kept faith when it was in their interest to break treaties". Hitler, likewise, totally egoistic, broke faith, promises, treaties, contracts, agreements (as with the Russians, attacking them in 1941, without warning, despite his solid agreement with Stalin, who believed him implicitly), whenever it suited his selfish purpose. Unprovoked war, without warning, i.e. ruthless treachery, lies and deceit are all common in German history from the outset.
    In 1989 the Berlin Wall fell, bringing a neo-Nazi revival, cultivated strongly through the German Army (Bundeswehr). Nazi Germany came storming back, as the communist stranglehold on East Germany and Eastern Europe was released. Violent racist incidents increased year on year to 1993. In 1993 the Bundestag passed an asylum law, setting firm restrictions on immigrants seeking asylum. Still remaining anti-semitic, with disturbance of Jewish synagogues and cemeteries. Further reports of neo-Nazi revival in Germany.

    In June 1991 the Bundestag voted to move their Capital back to Berlin from Bonn (Adenauer's home town). May 1995 Manfred Röder - convicted Nazi terrorist - was invited to address the Bundeswehr. Since the fall of the Berlin Wall there are visible signs of return of the old spirit of independent arrogance, within the whole German nation. Now, again a bona fide world power, second only to the U.S. in arms exports, with a standing army of circa 300,000, the largest in Europe. Already with France's help, leading the EU and soon to be recognised as a major nuclear power. Germany now back on top by usual clever manoeuvring.
    Britain, heroic winner of the worst and most deadly combat in history, now facing the massive costs and debts of prolonged war. Now, even worse for its proud history (reaching its peak of Empire in the 19th century), faced with the loss of its beloved colonies and its wealth. At its peak, in the proud Victorian reign, at the turn of the century. Now, as a result of two unsought, terrible wars, losing the cream of its young, virile manhood, reduced to massive debts, with rising unemployment and the return of P.O.Ws, many severely injured.

    Gone the splendid days of the Raj, when Britain proudly held its Empire with surprisingly few officers and men. In the space of some 30 years and two world wars only 21 years apart, its century of glorious achievements torn asunder by that murderous, ever-aggressive state of Germany, uncontrollable even by its own imperfect leaders. Germany should have been broken up after WWI, reduced to the collection of smaller states of its early years, and left to fight and murder amongst themselves.
    What do you think of this?

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    By and large it's and it's so full of it that I don't know where I should start.

    Whoever had the audacity to draw a line from biblical figures to modern day germany belongs into a mental asylum.



    In June 1991 the Bundestag voted to move their Capital back to Berlin from Bonn (Adenauer's home town).
    This is about the only thing in a sea of nonsense wich I'd like to comment: Personally I considered Berlin a poor choice. I would have chosen Frankfurt am Main since it has been a historical center of Germany for centurys with the Emperors beeing elected there and it was the seat of the first German parliament during the 1848 revolution. Berlin on the otherhand only became center of the german state through the forcefull Prussian unification.



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    Just found an interesting link
    http://www.politicalpenguin.org.uk/2...-fourth-reich/

    The English Democratic Party’s website along with all this anti-German rhetoric has it’s webserver based in guess where? Yup, Germany, indeed, very patriotic of them and oh so ironic.
    ^^

    As it seems the article about that suppsed 4th Reich is not only hysterical anti-german rhetoric but als anti-EU and there may be links to BNP and UKIP.

    Edit Nr.2:
    Yeah... It's UKIP how surprising...
    http://www.ukipwalsall-wolverhampton...cat=3&TB=home3


    Thanks for doing the homework for the OP -- quoted material needs a reference/source. - VP
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    Default Re: Germany's four Reichs origins and development seeking world domination in ruthless terror

    Quote Originally Posted by SorelusImperion View Post
    This is about the only thing in a sea of nonsense wich I'd like to comment: Personally I considered Berlin a poor choice. I would have chosen Frankfurt am Main since it has been a historical center of Germany for centurys with the Emperors beeing elected there and it was the seat of the first German parliament during the 1848 revolution. Berlin on the otherhand only became center of the german state through the forcefull Prussian unification.
    Berlin after unification had a certain political meaning as the only city that was part of both, BRD and DDR. That would have made it the natural choice. Otherwise there would have been no reason to move the capital, leave alone the government, elsewhere.

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    Default Re: Germany's four Reichs origins and development seeking world domination in ruthless terror

    Quote Originally Posted by SorelusImperion View Post


    This is about the only thing in a sea of nonsense wich I'd like to comment: Personally I considered Berlin a poor choice. I would have chosen Frankfurt am Main since it has been a historical center of Germany for centurys with the Emperors beeing elected there and it was the seat of the first German parliament during the 1848 revolution. Berlin on the otherhand only became center of the german state through the forcefull Prussian unification.
    So Berlin is a bad choice because of it's imperial connotations? It represents forceful unification? Well... without the policy of Blood and Iron Germany would not have been unified by Prussia. Perhaps the Austrians would have stepped in where Prussia would not. In short, without that evil imperialism which apparently represents Berlin, there would not be a Germany for Berlin to be capital of.

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    In the 1914 war German troops behaved "frightfully", executing, without mercy, civilians, hostages, prisoners, as ordered by superiors.
    Most of the article is simply untrue and hysterical writing, illustrated by the sentence above. I guess it is written by an Englishman frustrated by the loss of Britain's Empire? He has the British themselves to blame for not siding with Germany.
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    So what do the Assyrians have to do with Angela Merkel, Campino, and Daniel Brühl?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysimachos11 View Post
    Most of the article is simply untrue and hysterical writing, illustrated by the sentence above. I guess it is written by an Englishman frustrated by the loss of Britain's Empire? He has the British themselves to blame for not siding with Germany.
    Well, there is an organized Belgian massacre in 1914, which the purpose was clear - to create terror so Belgian would surrender soon enough and cease the local resistance. Although it stopped immediately, it still means German high command did have this attitude at the begin of war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysimachos11 View Post
    Most of the article is simply untrue and hysterical writing, illustrated by the sentence above. I guess it is written by an Englishman frustrated by the loss of Britain's Empire? He has the British themselves to blame for not siding with Germany.
    The article is mostly BS but the German Army didn't conduct itself brilliantly towards the Belgian civilian population in some instances.

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    Well, in some periods (for example most of Medieval) Germans were not very agressive, certainly not more than other nations.

    And I don't think that yet in WW1 Germans behaved as badly as in WW2 - but indeed there were some German war crimes in Belgium in 1914.
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    What nonsense. 1914 was the eeeevil Zweites Reich, and yet they killed a few hundred Belgians who they really thought had been snipers, or were protecting snipers. Any accusations of German war crimes in the First World War are purely propaganda from anti-Germans. I fully support my beloved German friends and brothers in this hateful campaign against what remains of their nation spirit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monarchist View Post
    What nonsense. 1914 was the eeeevil Zweites Reich, and yet they killed a few hundred Belgians who they really thought had been snipers, or were protecting snipers. Any accusations of German war crimes in the First World War are purely propaganda from anti-Germans. I fully support my beloved German friends and brothers in this hateful campaign against what remains of their nation spirit.
    People always complain about the few hundred Belgians that were killed by zee Germans, yet seem to forget the similair acts perpetrated by the Russians in East Prussia and the half million or Germans that died because of Entente blockade.
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    Let's face it if there's a war that has absolutely no 'good guys' that war is the Great War.

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    I say this as someone who considers the Germanic migrations into Europe was one of the worst things in history...this thread is retarded, pure anti German propaganda posted with the most ultra nationalist mind set. This is what the soviet does. In attempt to marginalize their history they keep pointing toward the Nazis even though it was the USSR that was the greater of two evils and history has proven this.
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    I say this as someone who considers the Germanic migrations into Europe was one of the worst things in history...
    Let's say the downfall of Rome was not only caused by Germanic migrations. As it was they added to the problems but the migrations could actually have turned into something benefitial if the Emperors had followed a consistent and correct policy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SorelusImperion View Post
    Let's say the downfall of Rome was not only caused by Germanic migrations. As it was they added to the problems but the migrations could actually have turned into something benefitial if the Emperors had followed a consistent and correct policy.
    I wouldn't even consider 467 the worse of it but that's another topic. My point was that i'm anything but a Germanophile and even I see this for what it is, more bs.
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    Reminds me of this:



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    Yeah, germans are teutonic warmongers with spiky hats, and italians are all maffiosi...and better is not to mention the russian bear whose bolsevik hat is adorned by a glowing red star..


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    Berlin after unification had a certain political meaning as the only city that was part of both, BRD and DDR. That would have made it the natural choice. Otherwise there would have been no reason to move the capital, leave alone the government, elsewhere.
    I would have chosen Frankfurt at the very beginning instead of Bonn. In fact it was even the primary candidate only beeing rejected due to Adenauer arguing that the Germans might accept it as permanent capital thus pushing back Berlin and a re-unification.
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    The OP clearly meant satire.
    "Romans not only easily conquered those who fought by cutting, but mocked them too. For the cut, even delivered with force, frequently does not kill, when the vital parts are protected by equipment and bone. On the contrary, a point brought to bear is fatal at two inches; for it is necessary that whatever vital parts it penetrates, it is immersed. Next, when a cut is delivered, the right arm and flank are exposed. However, the point is delivered with the cover of the body and wounds the enemy before he sees it."

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    How do you trace a line from biblical assyrians to roman germanic tribes to hitler??

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