Nigel Farage insults new European Council president

[Aldgarkalaughskel]

21st century British Nationalism reaches its rhetorical heights with Nigel Farage going out on a limp in insulting the new European Council president, Herman van Rompuy.




Nigel Farage summoned for tirade against Van Rompuy

What a shame these demagogues got so many votes.

[Haakon]

What an idiot. If I were British I would probably commit suicide in pure embarrassment.

[Phier]

There is something special about grown men trolling in a government forum.

[Carach]

What an idiot. If I were British I would probably commit suicide in pure embarrassment.

how is he an idiot? he has a legitimate point. Several, actually.

he also isnt a nationalist, unless of course u believe all politicians that are against the EU as a political force are nationalists...


and before the europhiles start gangbanging me i am actually in favour of the EU. I am however apparently one of the few reasonable people in this thread that actually has a clue about Farage's background and political stance, and the circumstances in which the EU has been centralising power...

right..having said that ill second IPA's comment on Daniel Hannan. i like that man. and i implore those of u that are quite clearly more ignorant on this matter than u should be to be making such damning comments of Farage; listen to the bbc article IPA supplies.

[Aldgarkalaughskel]

how is he an idiot? he has a legitimate point.

he also isnt a nationalist, unless of course u believe all politicians that are against the EU as a political force are nationalists...

Even if he has a legitimate point, that is not the way to communicate it, insulting an innocent old gentleman and a whole country, claiming it's a "non-country" just because it's not the usual nation-state.

Also, the accusation that van Rompuy would be the "silent assassin" of European democracy, is pretty ridiculous. I just see a guy ranting in the EP, and not supporting his arguments with any evidence whatsoever. The president of the European Council is not elected directly by the voters, wow, what an amazing discovery.

Pretty sure he did this in order to get some media attention.

I agree. The general elections in the UK are very close.

[Sisko]

This doesn't bother me too much. However, I am what you might call a Euroskeptic. I agree that Europe should function as a trade bloc and whatnot and function towards a common good.... but a European superstate with power residing in Brussels??

that !!!

[DeMolay]

how is he an idiot? he has a legitimate point. Several, actually.

And which one according to you ?

That Belgium is a non-country or that EU is against nation states despite being wanted , founded and funded by nation states and despite Britain receiving EU financial aid for decades ?



It's obvious Farage did that in order to catch the spotlights since elections are not far , i find his rant really excessive if not unjustified (ie insulting for Belgians tbh ) and do not share his views , but basically for me , he's a proof of the fact that some part of the public opinion in Europe (not only in the UK ) are "disconnected" from their political elite who took important decisions that engage the future of their nation without granting a national debate or at least a vote to their people first (or plainly ignored the vote ).

I don't share the euro-scepticism of a big part of the British public (because i believe this union will prove necessary in the future for economical , political and geo-strategical reasons ) , but i understand the feeling of some who think it has been forced upon them since they did not have a vote on it .

Personally , i don't want a federal europe , i want a europe of nations , so unlike what Farage says , nations states is not incompatible with the concept of the EU , if the member states keep a large part of their prerogatives. The language and cultural barriers will make it extremely hard to achieve any functional federal reality anyway , won't happen in my lifetime .

Still , i think that what did Farage causes a prejudice on the way the British are seen by europeans because his rant has been showed in tv across europe , he could have voiced his opposition in a respectful manneer in my opinion . There are many things to fix in the EU , some money waste , lack of direct democracy in many instances , however it is a fact that the EU is a very young union , only a few years since we have a currency , so i believe that it is positive and constructive actions that are needed rather than this sort of rants , he could have made propositions to address the issues he denounces .

But of course it all comes down to this : there hasn't been a national debate in european countries about Europe (what kind of europe do we want or don't want ) , few countries had a vote on it , thus it is understandable to see some stiff resistance from a sizeable part of the public , but paradoxically , when there are european elections , no one turns to the polling stations .

[Yorkshireman]

And which one according to you ?

That Belgium is a non-country or that EU is against nation states despite being wanted , founded and funded by nation states and despite Britain receiving EU financial aid for decades ?

I think you'll find we pay in much more than we've ever recieved.

On topic, whats the big deal ?

Its a parliament, your bound to get a few outlandish or loud moments, I'm sure Youtubes full of such examples, whats so special about this one ?

[Haakon]

how is he an idiot? he has a legitimate point. Several, actually.

Even if he had, that would still be irelevant as long as he behaves like a cretin. I've seen teenagers argue more reasonable than that horrible little person.

he also isnt a nationalist, unless of course u believe all politicians that are against the EU as a political force are nationalists...

He strikes me as some type of British Alex Jones with his ranting about assasinating nationstates and what not. He was ranting, and he wasnt sophisticated about it.

[Freddie]

What an idiot. If I were British I would probably commit suicide in pure embarrassment.

You having a laugh aren't you? That was one of the best speech by a British politician I've heard in a long time, it told like it is and I don't even like UKIP. Who the hell is EU president?

[Thorn777]

You having a laugh aren't you? That was one of the best speech by a British politician I've heard in a long time, it told like it is and I don't even like UKIP. Who the hell is EU president?

All of you English are saying stuff like "he told it like it is", but what does that mean.

Point out what "is"?

The NWO? Belgium being insignificant? Van Rompuy being a ? The only thing he was right about in that "speech", is that Van Rompuy wasn't elected democratically, but I guess the term President confuses him as Van Rompuy doesn't have powers and similar national positions are mostly not up for democratic elections either.

But maybe you want a confused representative, as long as he bashes the EU, isn't it?

[Freddie]

All of you English are saying stuff like "he told it like it is", but what does that mean.

Point out what "is"?

"He told it like it is". This is an expression we have in Britain which is used when someone gives a speech to a group of politicians and tells them exactly what a lot of people are thinking and does so using plain and straight forward language i.e he doesn't try and dress it up in a nice way.

For example you out with a group of friends and one of them smells, most of the time you would be polite and say something like "sorry to tell you this but tonight you smell a bit" we call this being diplomatic, "telling it like it is" would be "you need a bath as you stink".

Mr Van Rompuy was given a forthright opinion and he now knows exactly what a lot of people Britain think about him and the EU parliament. So 'like it is' is exactly what Farage said we didn't vote for him, we the British people don't want him, we don't know who he is and Belgium is on the verge of breaking up (by his account at least).

The NWO? Belgium being insignificant? Van Rompuy being a ? The only thing he was right about in that "speech", is that Van Rompuy wasn't elected democratically, but I guess the term President confuses him as Van Rompuy doesn't have powers and similar national positions are mostly not up for democratic elections either.

But maybe you want a confused representative, as long as he bashes the EU, isn't it?

Belgium is meant to be the corner stone and the example of what an EU state should be, all the ideas that come out about the EU come from Brussels yet Belgium itself may find itself split in two with the Flemes breaking away. So for a political union that's meant to be gearing itself towards further integration and more power for the central EU government it's own states can't even stay as a whole which makes the whole concept of a 'USE' a bigger joke then it already is.

[Thorn777]

double

[Thorn777]

What a populist running with the age old simplistic and false argument of "non-democratic", and then have the nerve to smear Belgium like that. Its a parliamentary democracy, and Van Rompuy has a similar role as Harry Reid in the US, but maybe he wasn't aware of how things work in a parliamentary democracy...

I feel sorry for the actual politicians who need to deal with such ignorance.

[Manco]

I just have to ask, who is Nigel Farage. I've never heard of him, and I'm pretty sure Europe's never heard of him till now.

(he's right about the charisma and rag shizzle though)

[Treize]

He is right but he is a populist. He also insults Belgium but IDK in what way he meant it.
Daniel Hannan is better.





EDIT:
We should all listen to his more rational explaination: http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today...00/8536381.stm.

[Hamelkart]

How do these people even get to European Council? It's like putting Ahmadinejad in Israeli Knesset.

[Frankie88]

What an arrogant man and he says he is confident that he speaks on behalf of the British people. I thought that hole represented the 2nd or 3rd biggest British party in the European Parliament.

[Treize]

Yea let's silence the opposition.

[Manco]

Pretty sure he did this in order to get some media attention.