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    for 300 men for unit,what value shoul i write?

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    Hi.
    Uhh, this trick not work by me..
    If ichanged the preferences text like in first post( sure saved after action), then i go to custom battle(just for controll unit large) i see te unit only minimum soldiers...Then i go to opcions and set units to ultra, but i have the default size max 160 men in troop. I set preferences to read only and i see the value like #1, #2 step.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunor View Post
    Hi.
    Uhh, this trick not work by me..
    If ichanged the preferences text like in first post( sure saved after action), then i go to custom battle(just for controll unit large) i see te unit only minimum soldiers...Then i go to opcions and set units to ultra, but i have the default size max 160 men in troop. I set preferences to read only and i see the value like #1, #2 step.
    Okay, first and foremost, you cannot change your unit sizes after you do this, as I said, because it resets the script file. If you change the units after you change the script then you must redo the script for larger unit sizes.

    Try this, make sure that you have units set to ultra. Then make the changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunor View Post
    Hi.
    Uhh, this trick not work by me..
    If ichanged the preferences text like in first post( sure saved after action), then i go to custom battle(just for controll unit large) i see te unit only minimum soldiers...Then i go to opcions and set units to ultra, but i have the default size max 160 men in troop. I set preferences to read only and i see the value like #1, #2 step.
    1. Install NTW + update it + unlock extras, etc.
    2. Launch the game
    3. Go to Game Options and set your game, audio, graphics preferences
    4. Quit the game without starting any play
    5. Now locate your preference script and follow post #1 in this thread
    6. After you make the changes to the preference script as in post #1 save your changes and close the file.
    7. Now right-click on the preference script file and go to properties.
    8. Set the Attributes of the file to "Read Only" by checking the box at the bottom of the properties box
    9. Make sure to click on "Apply" before you click on Ok to close the properties box
    10. Launch NTW
    11. DO NOT go back into options and fiddle with anything. Doing so will screw up your preferences again

    I did this and have gone 10 turns last night with my changes for 400 man line infantry units and the developer's camera before I had to go to bed. No problems at all in a single player world domination campaign game. I did not play multi player or custom battles so I cannot vouch for this working in those situations. Anyone else?

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    Uh I can't find the AppData folder. I have Vista and I am looking where you said but I can't find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maj.Gen. John E. Hawkins View Post
    Uh I can't find the AppData folder. I have Vista and I am looking where you said but I can't find it.
    Go to control panel/folder options and make sure you have it set so that hidden files can be visible, otherwise you will not be able to see AppData.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryo View Post
    for 300 men for unit,what value shoul i write?
    I suck at math but try 1.88

    2.5 gives you 400 men
    2 gives you 320
    1.88 should give you 300.8 but I don't know how it handles rounding numbers.

    Time to go back to college...

    There is also this thread: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...02#post6843902
    Last edited by Hazbones; February 26, 2010 at 10:39 AM.

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    After helping dozens of people with this for Empire,i cannot find my own Napoleon Script (and i have enabled the hidden maps search btw)

    im using XP,can anyone help me out here ?
    may thanks in advance

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    nvm,I found it,it seems that i had miswritten Napoleon

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    much thanks, double units will do fine til lord vader gets his copy

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    Default Re: Tutorial: Larger Unit Sizes/Bigger Battles.

    I think that 2 (double units) is the best choise, because with more unites the AI is getting confused sometimes. Is it possible to change the unit scale in the historical battles
    Last edited by joreto; February 26, 2010 at 11:42 AM.
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    This seems good but how is the BAi coping with the larger units is it still ok or are they hitting one another? Anyone find a problem there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dartanianx View Post
    This seems good but how is the BAi coping with the larger units is it still ok or are they hitting one another? Anyone find a problem there?
    Some of the best mods for ETW, such as DarthMod, use unit sizes of around 300 men per line infantry regimnet, and DarthMod was regarded as having the best AI around. So no, it doesnt really effect the AI. The AI forms its lines according to group formations, not according to measurments, so the units could be any size and the AI would still form them the same way.
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    guys,where is this damn preference file with XP?

    I'm searching here:
    D:\Documents and Settings\MYNAME\Application Data\The Creative Assembly

    but there isn't the folder NAPLEON...only EMPIRE!

    HELP PLEASE!
    Last edited by Ryo; February 26, 2010 at 01:32 PM.

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    Default Re: Tutorial: Larger Unit Sizes/Bigger Battles.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryo View Post
    guys,where is this damn preference file with XP?

    I'm searching here:
    D:\Documents and Settings\MYNAME\Application Data\The Creative Assembly

    but there isn't the folder NAPLEON...only EMPIRE!

    HELP PLEASE!
    First and foremost, are you using XP or Vista?

    If you are using Vista, the correct path is MYNAME/AppData/Roaming/The Creative Assembly/Napoleon/Scripts

    Also, in Control Panel in Folder Options is 'Shot Hidden Folders' checked on?

    If all else fails, launch a system search for preferences.script

    I'm not using XP, so I don't know if the path is different.
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    XP and yes the option is checked on!


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    Default Re: Tutorial: Larger Unit Sizes/Bigger Battles.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryo View Post
    XP and yes the option is checked on!

    Okay, right click on the Application folder, and check off 'Hidden.' Then run a search on your computer for the file preferences.script

    Does the file show up?
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    I've found only preference file of empire!

    the folder NAPOLEON in not n the same path of EMPIRE...

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    Anyone changed the default camera ? In ETW I changed it in preference file from 0>2 for lower screenshots. I wonder if it makes any difference here.

    Thanks for the tips on larger units, I'll do that.
    Anyone find how to remove the floating flags and top left menu? I set flags to 'never' but they still show over my units, but not enemy .
    Last edited by Jihada; February 26, 2010 at 02:10 PM.

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    Default Re: Tutorial: Larger Unit Sizes/Bigger Battles.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jihada View Post
    Anyone changed the default camera ? In ETW I changed it in preference file from 0>2 for lower screenshots. I wonder if it makes any difference here.

    Thanks for the tips on larger units, I'll do that.
    Anyone find how to remove the floating flags and top left menu? I set flags to 'never' but they still show over my units, but not enemy .
    I am using the debug camera and it just lets you get down to ground level when viewing the battle. It doesn't adversely affect anything.

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