Ending wars

**PotentSchraphlon** · February 24, 2010, 09:25 AM

I know this has been complained about before, but does anyone have a technique that actual works for ending wars? I counter attacked sweden and took 2 provinces, then managed to make peace. Now theyre attacking me again and I can't afford to fight back or pay them off because i'm in a war with france. Logically, now that they've won back the lands I took from them in the last war they should be happy to make friends but they refuse even though they aren't attacking me any more.

Also, as a matter of interest, how long did 18th Century wars tend to last?

**kesa82** · February 24, 2010, 09:52 AM

3 -to - 8 campaign seasons. ( campaign season ; late April until October 1st. In winter you simply couldn't feed the horses, and men and horses would drop like flies from simple exposure / hypothermia out in the open country )

Formally a war might last 10 years. But, as alluded to above, 3 to 8 seasons was about all field armies and their logistical tails, and human interest, could stand.

Notice how 3 -to-8 seasons is about how it works out in ETW too. Except that the AI -controlled factions stupidly won't make peace over a war that practically ended 20 years earlier.

**Orry** · February 24, 2010, 10:06 AM

You Said :-

know this has been complained about before, but does anyone have a technique that actual works for ending wars? I counter attacked sweden and took 2 provinces, then managed to make peace. Now theyre attacking me again and I can't afford to fight back or pay them off because i'm in a war with france. Logically, now that they've won back the lands I took from them in the last war they should be happy to make friends but they refuse even though they aren't attacking me any more.

So they started a war which they lost - they have now started again and recaptured the land they lost to you - they are winning the war - you are distracted by another enemy and can not either fight them or pay them off - and you expect them to agree to end the war because......??

From what you say there is no reason for them to agree to a peace - they are just back where they were when they started the first war - but this time you are weaker

**PotentSchraphlon** · February 24, 2010, 10:22 AM

If that's how the AI sees the situation then I have my answer, but it seems to be that it's at best a stalemate. They seem to lack the power or interest to take the fight to me in Britain, and they won back their lands so if I were them I'd consider the war over. I suppose it's just a difference of opinion between me and the AI

**irish437** · February 24, 2010, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by PotentSchraphlon

If that's how the AI sees the situation then I have my answer, but it seems to be that it's at best a stalemate. They seem to lack the power or interest to take the fight to me in Britain, and they won back their lands so if I were them I'd consider the war over. I suppose it's just a difference of opinion between me and the AI

Alot of countries were secretly at war with eachother during that time but technically at peace. I mean if 1 country could get a decisive upper hand over the other, they would make a move. Kind of what you are seeing in your game, yes they are at war, but noone really has the resources to follow through. What difference would it be if you were at peace. As soon as one gets the upperhand, its game on.

**Sebidiah** · February 24, 2010, 11:20 AM

Giving tech is usually my best way for bartering for peace xD.

**hobopunk** · February 24, 2010, 11:41 AM

Prussia and Britain in my game has been at war for at least 50 years, 30 of those pretty quiet (they don't even blockade each other's ports). But of late Prussia has found itself superior to British forces in India and from Goa and Mysore took over British land in eastern India. Though in Europe the two remained peaceful. I actually like this, proper colonial war.

**Toxic** · February 24, 2010, 12:36 PM

The best thing to keep the peace is to give them military access to your land.. then they will get a huge negative in there relation with the rest of the world if they breake it and declare war... if you want a war later on then just cancel the access about 2 turns before you go to war with them.

It's a little bit gamy becaus they cant cancel it..

But it works greate.. use it against the nation that you don't want a war with at the moment..
Because it's a gift to them they seems to always say yes to it.

**SCA Tordenskjold** · February 24, 2010, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by hobopunk

Prussia and Britain in my game has been at war for at least 50 years, 30 of those pretty quiet (they don't even blockade each other's ports). But of late Prussia has found itself superior to British forces in India and from Goa and Mysore took over British land in eastern India. Though in Europe the two remained peaceful. I actually like this, proper colonial war.

WHAT?!
1.5? They're in India?

**irish437** · February 24, 2010, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by hobopunk

Prussia and Britain in my game has been at war for at least 50 years, 30 of those pretty quiet (they don't even blockade each other's ports). But of late Prussia has found itself superior to British forces in India and from Goa and Mysore took over British land in eastern India. Though in Europe the two remained peaceful. I actually like this, proper colonial war.

Wait, Wait, Wait....Prussia and Britain fighting in India?! What mods are you using?

**PotentSchraphlon** · February 25, 2010, 03:18 AM

Good advice, thanks

Also, how did Prussia get to India??

**Tango12345** · February 25, 2010, 09:53 AM

I have never seen Prussia go colonial-take over most of Europe maybe, but never in the Americas or India...

**CerealGuy** · February 25, 2010, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by tango12345

I have never seen Prussia go colonial-take over most of Europe maybe, but never in the Americas or India...

they do it when they are left alone in the campaign (PL and Saxony don't get attacked)

**Tango12345** · February 26, 2010, 04:30 AM

I'll remember that, thanks!

**Dengero** · February 26, 2010, 09:36 AM

You can beat them down to one province, they have no army while you have 2 full stacks in their territory...and they won't make peace unless you give them all the regions you have. (yes, I have tried this with the ottomans asking france for peace. They literally wouldn't accept it until I gave them ALL the land I had.)

**gluteus maximus aurelius** · February 26, 2010, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by PotentSchraphlon

does anyone have a technique that actual works for ending wars?

Annhilate the enemy, works every time

**Geordie-warlord** · February 26, 2010, 02:19 PM

If you don't want to destroy them,try to bankrupt them.
Blockade their trade port's,disable their navy ports,land a small but highly mobile raiding army to hit their minor towns and keep hitting them, after a few turns ask for peace and maybe a few tec's from them along with a trade agreement,works 90% of the time for me.