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    Default Love is false, evil and destructive.

    This post was not done in sincerity; now that there are five pages of replies, I thought that I should make that clear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aulus Cornelius Lepidus
    There is nothing in this world as fun as making a provocative statement and watching people fight over it like hyenas at the corpse of a dead gazelle.

    Do I really believe that? No, of course not. The love between a child and parent is a breed of connection all its own, and there is something special behind it. As for love of a cause, that is how we have moved forward. Love of a cause, for example, lead to humanitarian efforts like those of Martin Luther King Jr, and we can all agree that his love of a cause benefited humanity as a concept, as well as improving individual lives. Rather, I was just curious as to what people would say about such as blatantly caustic statement. That's all


    People always seem to recite the tired platitude 'All you need is love'. How far from the truth that is! Love is a destructive myth that not only ruins lives but also corrupts minds and clouds logic, a far superior -and far safer- method of thinking.

    From when they are first attracted to those of the opposite sex, children begin to do insanely foolish things for the sake of impressing others. Often, they will betray friends, forsake duties, and abandon previous habits just to be with another person, and for what reason? Because some chemicals in our brains tell us to.That, of course, is an animalistic instinct that detracts from one's humanity, for do bears and bucks, and all other male animals not vie for supremacy and rights to breed with the best females? Indeed they do, and surely, we humans do not want to associate ourselves with those actions... unless, of course we view ourselves as animals.

    I recall a time in my childhood, when I heard a young lady talking about a couple walking to a store or some other place, during which time the male in the couple had his arm around the shoulder of the female. To my confusion, the young lady whom I heard at that time fawned over the action, describing it as 'adorable' or 'sweet' or something to that effect? Why in the world would she do such a thing? Simply, a base, animal instinct drove the male to put his hands on the female, probably because it aroused him in some manner. Where is the magic behind that? Biology tells us to fornicate so that we can reproduce and continue the race, while as children we simply put our hands all over each other because we are not sufficiently developed to create children. Once again, there is no magic there.

    Essentially, love is a simple chemical, and it prefers to cloud reason for the sake of emotion. Throughout time, enlightened men and women have shied away from such relationships, and from those same minds that shunned love came brilliant ideas. Society would, without doubt, be a better place without love. It behooves us to rid ourselves of love and treat sex as what it is: a necessary biological function, nothing more, nothing less. If 'love' truly existed, after all, wouldn't everybody remain loyal to their respective partners?

    Imagine a world without love: people would not need to worry about loyalty to a specific other, and those who were not sufficiently physically attractive would not need worry about finding a mate. Without love, we would have another layer of distraction removed from our lives. Without love, we could focus ourselves entirely on positive efforts, like solving world hunger, or simply learning effectively from schools. We could free our legal systems from nonsensical divorce cases, and, atheists, you would be robbing the churches you hate so much of another facet of their power. As for theists, without love, people would not cheat on one another, and without that facet of disloyalty and amorality in their lives, you'd be one step closer to saving their eternal souls. Everybody wins, here.
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    Impossible. Without love, youll see random dudes and women banging each other, and the street's become orgy festive. As much as I would like that, no...


    jk, that too over simplified lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cool Story Brah View Post
    Impossible. Without love, youll see random dudes and women banging each other, and the street's become orgy festive. As much as I would like that, no...
    Clearly never been out drinking on a Saturday night haha


    The OP is right, love is nothing more than biological imperatives and obsession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cool Story Brah View Post
    Impossible. Without love, youll see random dudes and women banging each other, and the street's become orgy festive. As much as I would like that, no...
    Sign me in. Now.

    To conclude: Love is useless and full of pain.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordinquisitor View Post
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    To conclude: Love is useless and full of pain.
    Pain can't exist as a concept if there is no pleasure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-hereticK View Post
    Pain can't exist as a concept if there is no pleasure.
    Yes, of course not.

    And i didn`t say that you shoulnd`t enjoy useless things.. Something can be painful and useless but at the same time the best thing in the world.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordinquisitor View Post
    Yes, of course not.

    And i didn`t say that you shoulnd`t enjoy useless things.. Something can be painful and useless but at the same time the best thing in the world.
    It's not useless if it's pleasant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordinquisitor View Post
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    To conclude: Love is useless and full of pain.

    so is religion...

    This thread is definitely thought provoking.

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    I think you mistake "love" for "lust." I'd agree with you on that, however, there are other forms of love that, while inherently meaningless from an objective point, carry subjective benefits. For example, bonds between individuals are known to improve psychological and physiological health; moreover, it implies solidarity, which is, normally, an antithesis of combat, although it does lead to group mentality apart from the nuclear relationship (i.e. a group of friends would be more likely to antagonize outsiders than a romantic couple).

    Nevertheless, I'd have to conclude that I only half agree with this assertion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aulus Cornelius Lepidus View Post
    Because some chemicals in our brains tell us to.That, of course, is an animalistic instinct that detracts from one's humanity, .
    what? You do realize we are primates right? im not sure what your getting at....


    regardless i agree that love is just another made up myth that used to benefit people in some way but if done away with would probaly do more good.
    odi et amo quare id faciam fortasse requiris / nescio sed fieri sentio et excrucior


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    probably for social stability

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    Congratulations, OP, you have become a philosopher. Just like Kant... Or a Franciscan monk. That includes the rejection of love as being impious vis a vis the Holy Causality of the world. It's not that monks are forced towards celibacy, but the sincere monk is naturally celibate.
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    Love is an infinitely complex emotion, and certainly is more than some biological attraction to the opposite sex. For example, one can "love" inanimate objects, and relatives that is clearly not sexual attraction. As for love of another sex, I conjecture that love is merely a cover-up, and emotion to hide our true emotions. We convince ourselves we "love" that person and imagine to be doing something noble. It hides the true emotion, lust, the desire for fornication. Even love between friends and family is an illusion. Relationships are based on mutual self-interest, both parties gain something from friendships. As soon as one ceases to provide the other with what they want, whether it be company, someone to teach, someone to learn from, whatever, the friendship is bankrupt and it swiftly terminated.

    The bottom line is, people are greedy, they only think about what they want and how they can get it. But callous selfishness repulses them, so they conjure up love, and then believe they are being noble.
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    Whats love got to do with it?

    Its just a second hand emotion.
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    You have obviously not seen Equilibrium.
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    I do not like the idea of this.

    Just because one strives to be a logical individual does not mean one must give up their emotions - this isn't freaking star trek.
    Falling in love is one of the most fulfilling experience anyone can undergo (at least in my experience). Yeah, it's when your affections aren't returned, but quite frankly when they are, it makes up for any number of times when they weren't.
    As non-theists, we should be embracing every natural means of giving our lives meaning.

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    OP, you've obviously never fell in love. Or you have felt it, and it betrayed you. Not that I can say much, for I believe I haven't yet either.
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    Love is not completely a chemical reaction. Science does not explain why people continue to love each other over the years, why they continue to stay with their partners through hardships. That is not a chemical reaction but a state of mind, and I'm sorry if you've been emotionally hurt but please do not come here and say the world would be a better place without love because it wouldn't. If it weren't for love and passion how many recent scientific discoveries would have been made? Passion can drive people to greatness, and all great people have had a passion for their respective subjects. Love is what keeps us going when logic tells us to stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katsumoto View Post
    Love is not completely a chemical reaction. Science does not explain why people continue to love each other over the years, why they continue to stay with their partners through hardships. That is not a chemical reaction but a state of mind, and I'm sorry if you've been emotionally hurt but please do not come here and say the world would be a better place without love because it wouldn't.
    You all seem to forget that obsession is a biological reason and main contributor of "love" too. The world would be an amazing place without any emotions, we would all be able to achieve our maximum potential with the minimum distraction then, and I'm sure satisfaction would come in other ways were that the case.

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    A world without love would be a world not worth living in.

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