New Patch Questions (everyons questions)

[Warkeeper]

OK so we cant post on the bug fix i was just woundering with exactly stats are changing i was curious if the trolls hvae been changed and i thought with the ammount of times the half-troll troops storm gondor they were goodly balanced already?

Ofc anyone else's questions are welcome provind the team is willing to answer or if there to busy all is good

[Lordinquisitor]

Hmm..

Download the Patch, backup your old version and install it. Hey, you have to get the patch anyway. And since most guys here use submods, which alter stats, and the other guys most likely downloaded and installed the fix already, few will know which states were changed since they don`t have the old stats anymore.. So you might post the stats of the units in your game and some guy with the bugfix might tell you the differences.

[Aikanár]

i was curious if the trolls hvae been changed

Basically, no.

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Mounain Trolls 1.4

type Mountain Trolls
dictionary Mountain_Trolls ; Mountain Trolls
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier mountain_trolls, 5, 0, 60.0
mount_effect elephant -2
attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, frighten_foot
move_speed_mod 0.9
formation 4.0, 4.0, 7.0, 7.0, 1, horde
stat_health 6, 3
stat_pri 30, 10, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, blunt, mace, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr area, launching
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 10, 22, 0, flesh
;stat_pri_armour 15, 20, 0, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 1
stat_ground 0, -1, -2, -1
stat_mental 17, impetuous, trained, lock_morale
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 1200, 500, 100, 100, 1600, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 1, 2
armour_ug_models mountain_trolls, mountain_trolls_upg
ownership england
era 0 england
era 1 england
era 2 england
recruit_priority_offset 15

Mountain Trolls 1.4.1

type Mountain Trolls
dictionary Mountain_Trolls ; Mountain Trolls
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier mountain_trolls, 5, 0, 60.0
mount_effect elephant -2
attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, frighten_foot
move_speed_mod 0.9
formation 4.0, 4.0, 7.0, 7.0, 1, horde
stat_health 6, 3
stat_pri 30, 10, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, blunt, mace, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr area, launching
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 10, 22, 0, flesh
;stat_pri_armour 15, 20, 0, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 1
stat_ground 0, -1, -2, -1
stat_mental 17, impetuous, trained, lock_morale
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 1200, 500, 100, 100, 1600, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 1, 2
armour_ug_models mountain_trolls, mountain_trolls_upg
ownership england
era 0 england
era 1 england
era 2 england
recruit_priority_offset 15

Battle Trolls 1.4

type Battle Trolls
dictionary Battle_Trolls ; Battle Trolls
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier battle_trolls, 5, 0, 70.0
mount_effect elephant -2
attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, frighten_foot
move_speed_mod 0.9
formation 4.0, 4.0, 7.0, 7.0, 1, horde
stat_health 6, 3
stat_pri 34, 12, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, blunt, mace, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr area, launching
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 14, 25, 0, metal
;stat_pri_armour 20, 24, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground 0, -1, -2, -1
stat_mental 20, impetuous, trained, lock_morale
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 1500, 640, 100, 100, 2000, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 3, 4
armour_ug_models battle_trolls, battle_trolls_upg
ownership england
era 0 england
era 1 england
era 2 england
recruit_priority_offset 20

Battle Trolls 1.4.1

type Battle Trolls
dictionary Battle_Trolls ; Battle Trolls
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier battle_trolls, 5, 0, 70.0
mount_effect elephant -2
attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, frighten_foot
move_speed_mod 0.9
formation 4.0, 4.0, 7.0, 7.0, 1, horde
stat_health 6, 3
stat_pri 34, 12, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, blunt, mace, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr area, launching
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 14, 25, 0, metal
;stat_pri_armour 20, 24, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground 0, -1, -2, -1
stat_mental 20, impetuous, trained, lock_morale
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 1500, 640, 100, 100, 2000, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 3, 4
armour_ug_models battle_trolls, battle_trolls_upg
ownership england
era 0 england
era 1 england
era 2 england
recruit_priority_offset 20

Cave Trolls 1.4

type Cave Trolls
dictionary Cave_Trolls ; Cave Trolls
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier mountain_trolls, 5, 0, 70.0
mount_effect elephant -2
attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, frighten_foot, free_upkeep_unit
move_speed_mod 0.9
formation 4.0, 4.0, 7.0, 7.0, 1, horde
stat_health 6, 3
stat_pri 32, 12, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, blunt, mace, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr area, launching
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 11, 22, 0, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 1
stat_ground 0, -1, -2, -1
stat_mental 17, impetuous, trained, lock_morale
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 1360, 580, 100, 100, 1800, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 1, 2
armour_ug_models cave_trolls, cave_trolls_upg
ownership hre
era 0 hre
era 1 hre
era 2 hre
recruit_priority_offset 15

Cave Trolls 1.4.1

type Cave Trolls
dictionary Cave_Trolls ; Cave Trolls
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier mountain_trolls, 5, 0, 70.0
mount_effect elephant -2
attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, frighten_foot, free_upkeep_unit
move_speed_mod 0.9
formation 4.0, 4.0, 7.0, 7.0, 1, horde
stat_health 6, 3
stat_pri 32, 12, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, blunt, mace, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr area, launching
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 11, 22, 0, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 1
stat_ground 0, -1, -2, -1
stat_mental 17, impetuous, trained, lock_morale
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 1360, 580, 100, 100, 1800, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 1, 2
armour_ug_models cave_trolls, cave_trolls_upg
ownership hre
era 0 hre
era 1 hre
era 2 hre
recruit_priority_offset 15

Cave Troll Body Guards 1.4

type Cave Trolls_BG
dictionary Cave_Trolls_BG ; Cave Trolls
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier mountain_trolls, 4, 0, 70.0
mount_effect elephant -2
attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, frighten_foot, free_upkeep_unit, no_custom
move_speed_mod 0.9
formation 4.0, 4.0, 7.0, 7.0, 1, horde
stat_health 6, 3
stat_pri 35, 12, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, blunt, mace, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr area, launching
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 15, 25, 0, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 1
stat_ground 0, -1, -2, -1
stat_mental 17, impetuous, trained, lock_morale
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 1360, 580, 100, 100, 1800, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 1, 2
armour_ug_models cave_trolls, cave_trolls_upg
ownership hre
era 0 hre
era 1 hre
era 2 hre
recruit_priority_offset 15

Cave Trolls Body Guards 1.4.1

type Cave Trolls_BG
dictionary Cave_Trolls_BG ; Cave Trolls
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier mountain_trolls, 4, 0, 70.0
mount_effect elephant -2
attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, frighten_foot, free_upkeep_unit, no_custom
move_speed_mod 0.9
formation 4.0, 4.0, 7.0, 7.0, 1, horde
stat_health 6, 3
stat_pri 35, 12, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, blunt, mace, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr area, launching
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 15, 25, 0, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 1
stat_ground 0, -1, -2, -1
stat_mental 17, impetuous, trained, lock_morale
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 1360, 580, 100, 100, 1800, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 1, 2
armour_ug_models cave_trolls, cave_trolls_upg
ownership hre
era 0 hre
era 1 hre
era 2 hre
recruit_priority_offset 15

Cave Troll Rebels 1.4

type Cave Trolls2
dictionary Cave_Trolls2 ; Cave Trolls Rebels
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier mountain_trolls, 5, 0, 70.0
attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, frighten_foot, mercenary_unit
formation 5.0, 5.0, 8.0, 8.0, 1, square
stat_health 6, 3
stat_pri 31, 10, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, blunt, mace, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr area, launching
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 14, 20, 0, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 1
stat_ground 0, -1, -2, -1
stat_mental 17, impetuous, trained, lock_morale
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 1300, 390, 75, 75, 1800, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 1
armour_ug_models cave_trolls
ownership slave
recruit_priority_offset 0

Cave Troll Rebels 1.4.1

type Cave Trolls2
dictionary Cave_Trolls2 ; Cave Trolls Rebels
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier mountain_trolls, 5, 0, 70.0
attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, frighten_foot, mercenary_unit
formation 5.0, 5.0, 8.0, 8.0, 1, square
stat_health 6, 3
stat_pri 31, 10, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, blunt, mace, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr area, launching
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 14, 20, 0, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 1
stat_ground 0, -1, -2, -1
stat_mental 17, impetuous, trained, lock_morale
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 1300, 390, 75, 75, 1800, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 1
armour_ug_models cave_trolls
ownership slave
recruit_priority_offset 0

Edit: For a detailed but not that inconvenient overview take a look at the Palantir