Constantine's Sword...a Critique

**Carpathian Wolf** · February 22, 2010, 07:23 PM

Insightful critique on something based on Dan Brown-esque ignorance and perhaps even taking advantage of people's sensibilities for profit.

**cfmonkey45** · February 22, 2010, 10:59 PM

Summary plx?

**Carpathian Wolf** · February 22, 2010, 11:38 PM

Basically the author says that the reason there is anti semitism in the world is because of the Christians and the Cross is a symbol of anti semitism, add an hour or so of Dan Brownisms and there you go. The Orthodox deacon in the video pretty much answers these claims and critiques the whole non sense.

**SorelusImperion** · February 23, 2010, 10:09 AM

Basically the author says that the reason there is anti semitism in the world is because of the Christians and the Cross is a symbol of anti semitism, add an hour or so of Dan Brownisms and there you go. The Orthodox deacon in the video pretty much answers these claims and critiques the whole non sense.

There was and still is a form of christian anti-semitism which is based on the accusation that Jews "murderd" Chist however it is not an inherent trait of christianity.

**Carpathian Wolf** · February 23, 2010, 04:51 PM

Well it was the Jews and the Romans who did it. I have enough ancestry from both where I don't think you can really accuse me of being racist either way. In either case the Orthodox Church doesn't teach any form of anti-semitism. I was always taught Christ was a Jew.

**Oldgamer** · February 24, 2010, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by Carpathian Wolf

Well it was the Jews and the Romans who did it. I have enough ancestry from both where I don't think you can really accuse me of being racist either way. In either case the Orthodox Church doesn't teach any form of anti-semitism. I was always taught Christ was a Jew.

Actually, it was the Roman authorities (in the person of Pontius Pilatus), and the Jewish authorities (in the person of the Sanhedrin) who were responsible for the death of Jesus. They both had their reasons, and these were thoroughly political, in nature.

You're right about the Orthodox Church, and the fact that it doesn't reach anti-Semitism.

One of the most interesting things to consider is that the person who is most responsible for the death of Jesus on the Cross is Jesus, Himself. It was the purpose of His Life, if we are to accept the traditional belief-system of the Church (which I certainly do).

**Carpathian Wolf** · February 24, 2010, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by Oldgamer

Actually, it was the Roman authorities (in the person of Pontius Pilatus), and the Jewish authorities (in the person of the Sanhedrin) who were responsible for the death of Jesus. They both had their reasons, and these were thoroughly political, in nature.

You're right about the Orthodox Church, and the fact that it doesn't reach anti-Semitism.

One of the most interesting things to consider is that the person who is most responsible for the death of Jesus on the Cross is Jesus, Himself. It was the purpose of His Life, if we are to accept the traditional belief-system of the Church (which I certainly do).

Well of course that's who it was. It wasn't like I was blaming Jews and Romans in general.

**~~Exarch~~** · February 24, 2010, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by Oldgamer

Actually, it was the Roman authorities (in the person of Pontius Pilatus), and the Jewish authorities (in the person of the Sanhedrin) who were responsible for the death of Jesus. They both had their reasons, and these were thoroughly political, in nature.

You're right about the Orthodox Church, and the fact that it doesn't reach anti-Semitism.

One of the most interesting things to consider is that the person who is most responsible for the death of Jesus on the Cross is Jesus, Himself. It was the purpose of His Life, if we are to accept the traditional belief-system of the Church (which I certainly do).

then why is judas iscariot reviled so much?
by that notion, judas should be made a saint or somthing

**Stavroforos** · February 25, 2010, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by Exarch

then why is judas iscariot reviled so much?
by that notion, judas should be made a saint or somthing

Because he still betrayed Jesus, despite the fact that that betrayal let Jesus do his thang.

**handsome pete** · February 25, 2010, 10:37 AM

And not even anti-Judaism, but anti Talmudic judaism.

Isn't the church just as in opposition to non-Talmudic Judaism.

**Oldgamer** · February 25, 2010, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Exarch

then why is judas iscariot reviled so much?
by that notion, judas should be made a saint or somthing

He had the choice to betray Christ, or not to do so. He betrayed Him. I'm not in favor of making someone who betrayed the Founder of my faith a saint.

**Prodigal** · February 23, 2010, 09:02 PM

Because he was, yes. I agree completely with the deacon in the video. Where is this channel played? I want to watch it.

**Carpathian Wolf** · February 24, 2010, 12:23 AM

No idea just caught this online somehow.

**DekuTrash** · February 24, 2010, 12:50 AM

Damn and here I was thinking this was a critique of his actual sword.

**Stavroforos** · February 24, 2010, 10:10 AM

I think that there needs to be a clarification between anti-Judaism and anti-Semitism, because if the Church has preached anything, it has only been the former.