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    Does the AI actively seek to use Naval invasions against other AI territories in America or India?

    Do you ever See Britain expand in India if the human is not the Maratha? Do you ever See Sweden try to take land in North America from the British for Example if both nations are AI controlled.

    This is Empire...a game about building globally and I'm not sure these scenarios exist. Its a shame.

    Does the Maratha use mass naval invasions against other AI. I know they will scour the globe against the human.

    Perhaps Britain should have the same AI as the Maratha. Global expansion. The AI Britain doesn't seem to expand much from what I have seen.

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    Default Re: Does the AI actively seek to expand globally?

    Quote Originally Posted by irish437 View Post
    Does the AI actively seek to use Naval invasions against other AI territories in America or India?

    Do you ever See Britain expand in India if the human is not the Maratha? Do you ever See Sweden try to take land in North America from the British for Example if both nations are AI controlled.

    This is Empire...a game about building globally and I'm not sure these scenarios exist. Its a shame.

    Does the Maratha use mass naval invasions against other AI. I know they will scour the globe against the human.

    Perhaps Britain should have the same AI as the Maratha. Global expansion. The AI Britain doesn't seem to expand much from what I have seen.
    I haven`t seen the CAI expand into India (even after the tutorial said they would), but I have seen the CAI expand into America.... although, thinking about it, it might`ve been just to attack me. But some factions do try to expand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humble Warrior View Post
    I haven`t seen the CAI expand into India (even after the tutorial said they would), but I have seen the CAI expand into America.... although, thinking about it, it might`ve been just to attack me. But some factions do try to expand.
    I think its just to attack you. But that is what I am trying to find out.

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    never seen anyone go to india at all

    have seen france take some armies to america and take 13 colonies land and have seen some others invade america but mainly the only faction that moves armies anywhere are marathas.






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    Default Re: Does the AI actively seek to expand globally?

    Quote Originally Posted by emporor View Post
    never seen anyone go to india at all

    have seen france take some armies to america and take 13 colonies land and have seen some others invade america but mainly the only faction that moves armies anywhere are marathas.

    So why can't we get the same aggressiveness on expansion for other countries besides the Marathas. Britain should be much more aggressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irish437 View Post
    So why can't we get the same aggressiveness on expansion for other countries besides the Marathas. Britain should be much more aggressive.
    Well because it`s not properly fixed, as with ETW in general.

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    Naval invasions were never really fixed. The CAI only sometimes deploy them versus the player, and almost never vs an AI controlled nation. Expansion by nation always follows the same pattern regardless if you start a new game or not, and the AI will NEVER try to colonize India for that matter. If you give regions to the AI in India to trigger them to expand, they are just oblivious to those regions and won't ever build troops there. Most games just become one boring stalemate past 1730+, because nations are preprogrammed it seems not to expand too far. I dont know for sure, but i do know that Empire has the most crappy campaign mechanics of any TW game up to date.

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    How many times is a broken clock correct? If you can answer that you'll know how often the AI tries to expand globally.

    It happens, but out of luck or something else mystical. Not by design, at least from what I can tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abspara View Post
    How many times is a broken clock correct? If you can answer that you'll know how often the AI tries to expand globally.

    It happens, but out of luck or something else mystical. Not by design, at least from what I can tell.
    But the Marathas do. What if every major nation got their AI script?

    There are things that are broken in this game that can't be fixed and I accept that. Sieges would be one that would take quite a bit of effort to fix. However, there are things like AI aggressivenes, etc. that should be numerical formulas and relatively easy to fix.

    Whats the Biggest you have seen the Marath Empire? Have you seen it attack other AI outside of India?

    Now what about Britain? Whats the largest you have seen them? Have you seen them attack other AI in North America and India?

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    Quote Originally Posted by irish437 View Post
    But the Marathas do. What if every major nation got their AI script?

    There are things that are broken in this game that can't be fixed and I accept that. Sieges would be one that would take quite a bit of effort to fix. However, there are things like AI aggressivenes, etc. that should be numerical formulas and relatively easy to fix.

    Whats the Biggest you have seen the Marath Empire? Have you seen it attack other AI outside of India?

    Now what about Britain? Whats the largest you have seen them? Have you seen them attack other AI in North America and India?
    In my British Campaign, I saw Maratha take three of the caribean islands in 1720's and by 1760 we were the only two powers left. I had most of europe apart from the middle east and some of russia, maratha dominated india apart from mysore, which I had taken when Mysore was still allied to Maratha, Maratha controlled south america and some of the caribean as well as the inuit land. Pretty good expansion from them, which wouldn't have happened if the other nations had the same aggressiveness as well as willingness to use naval transport

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    I've seen Prussia take Goa and Mysore and the Marathas take Cuba. Though they may have been diplomatic deals, like how Sweden bought the Bahamas in my game.
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    Only the Marathas croos theatres...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoomBunny666 View Post
    Only the Marathas croos theatres...
    So shouldn't this be an easy fix? Whatever compels them to do this should be bestowed upon everyone else.

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    Well in my Russian campaign (witch is already finished) the British DID invade Marathas capital Bijabur and Goad witch was taken by marathan rebels then the marathas. And mughals took Carnatica region in shout india from maratha

    They used almost a full stack to invade India and a full stack navy too with frigates, sloops, brigs and 2 fourth rate ship of the line!!!!!

    Then they made a decision to march about 95% of their troops in India there to take their last region.. forgot about the regions name next to the capital. But anyway, when they attacked that last city, they lost the battle and only general unit survived that battle . Then the rest of the british controlled india rebelled and was returned back to marathas control.

    And then guess what...

    I invaded Marathan Confederacys and Mysores lands and allied with Mughal Empire about 6 years later before they recovered from the british bloodshed... Sad but true and now i have about 40% of India under Russian banner. I still have rebellions and riots all around India, so i'm not able to take over more regions because i can't afford sending reinforcements or recruit more units there.

    One reason is that i need most of my army at Europe to fight against those major powers i pissed off and to ottomans old regions to keep order because the population is rebelling and rioting population is destroying my buildings, and expensive buildings too.

    So i've been kind of stuck for many years, but i guess i will be able to move onwards once i have calmed the Middle East and India down. And shutted those freedom speakers in my regions

    I can post some screen shots of my map and political events etc, if you guys only want to. And i can of course give the save game file, if you truly want them.


    Edit: This is a vanilla campaign with only skin mods with BSM, blood mod and musket sound mod. No AI mods included.
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    Default Re: Does the AI actively seek to expand globally?

    India never, but the Americas and Carribean is dotted with rainbow colours.


    Prussia expanding in mexico, Austria had the Leeward islands, Mughals in Cuba, UP expanding and taking over French Guinea, Spain, Britain, and New France all fighting over America.

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    Britain is the most aggressive they take all of NA but they never go in India i have seen invasions like Prussia taking pirate islands or Britain taking morocco but no one goes in india
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    Marathas took the Inuit lands in my GB campaign once, it was quite random indeed.

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    I saw France go into India one time and get its ass kicked on the beaches (turn after it landed). Haven't seen a naval invasion of India besides that. I have seen plenty of Mediterranean or American naval invasions however.
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    India is overpowered, that's why AI stay away from it. I've seen GB invade Maratha too, but they got kicked out two turns later. It's just not worth it for the AIs, there's no way they could win. The way the TW systems works, it's impossible for the AI to hold colonies in India like in history, unless you help them.

    And whats more, Maratha is downright silly in autocal. They can take on twice their numbers in euro modern troops and still autocal will give them the win. They already have possibly the best starting position in the game, but CA somehow think they need more imba advantages. No wonder they usually become the biggest threat in late game.

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    Default Re: Does the AI actively seek to expand globally?

    I've seen the Maharathas come into europe by the back door, gobbling up the Ottoman and Russian provinces one by one until they made it to Istanbul.

    I've seen the AI come after me with naval invasions (Dutch, Maharathas, French) but only in the Carribean.

    I've seen some pretty strange fleets full of British troops hovering around in the Baltic (though they never landed and were eventually sunk by Prussia) and one invasion of Malta (Knights of St John) by the British AI.

    I haven't seen a cross theater naval invasion by the AI on another AI faction. I don't play ETW very much anymore so I don't guess I ever will.
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